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Gravity Falls S2 |OT| Mysteries, tall gingers & endless sweaters (series finale 2/15)
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Gideon was in the next episode preview, so it'll probably be dealt with then.
Hey, we still got a couple of episodes to go, so everyone getting hugged and turned into Tang could happen at some point in the future.
Think it's pretty obvious it's the Big Dipper (Wendy even calls it that when she first sees it). Didn't make the connection with the alien ship coordinates. Also: anyone else think that prison pod-ship looked like the spaceship from Flight of the Navigator in Gotta Go Fast mode?
It wouldn't surprise me that Bill is going to double-cross Gideon, because that's how most demons roll in fiction.
Gideon is no slouch, either. I bet he has a few plans to take out Bill himself. Whether or not they'd work on Bill in the real world is another matter.
It all depends, really. Unless if Gideon had done his homework (or has figured out a way) to neutralize Bill's omnipotent abilities, I can't see him putting up much of a fight. It's very much like beating up a baby seal by blowing at it.
UberTag
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Yeah, the pacing in the back half of the 2nd season has effectively killed this show's legacy for me. It's turned from a show I would happily recommend to anyone to one where I'll recommend it for the beginning and then caution people against expecting much from the ending.
Sort of like Lost.
I believe Rick and Morty suffered from the same thing. I'll happily recommend season 1, but season 2 is pretty ehhh and the ending is EHHHHHH. Gravity Falls seems to be turning out the same way.
Chezzymann
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I guess for shows that hype up a mystery its really hard to make that mystery pay off. The whole 'end of the world' thing is a little generic for me. Although we still don't know why gravity falls is so weird. There's still 3 episodes left so I think they can deliver something satisfying.
Xpcveaoqfoxso - Broken Barriers
Oh my
Eh season 2 of Rick and Morty is still pretty darn good even if the second half is a tad uneven at times. Still those first four episode alone are some of it's best episodes ever and the quality still remains very high even for the lesser episodes.
Oh my
Eh season 2 of Rick and Morty is still pretty darn good even if the second half is a tad uneven at times. Still those first four episode alone are some of it's best episodes ever and the quality still remains very high even for the lesser episodes.
Good luck sleeping tonight.
S2 of R&M is largely unmemorable for me. It all kinda ran together for me despite watching it weekly. Other than the very first episode I don't even remember what episodes 2-4 are. Then there's Get Schwifty, then at some point Tiny Rick, episodes with Rick's ship killing everyone while protecting Summer, Marriage counselling... and the final ep.
MaverickHunterX
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Really? I thought the sequence was supposed to be ripping off of Man of Steel?
Damn skippy! It was even cooler with surround sound (you heard it coming from all directions, plus
the arrival of a helicopter...
He does in the way he automatically presumes that Dipper and Mabel's relationship is the exact same as his and Stanley's.
If this is the final set of episodes, I have this horrible feeling that after everything has been said and done, Hirsch is gonna get on the horn the next day and tear Disney a new one in a way of "John K/Nickelodeon" proportions.
Even worse is if Disney has the option to make more GF without Hirsch's consent. Imagine a third season of Gravity Falls similar to nature to that of the fourth season of Boondocks - stripped of any soul it had left...
But we barely got any Pacifica or Wendy
This...
Wendy getting almost nothing this season makes me
And this...
We've heard more about cancelled Wendy stories (through Hirsch's con-visits and the AMAs) than there has been in the fucking series altogether!
And fucking this, too!
I'll do you one better if we're thinking batshit crazy theories:
Don't think like Bill fucking with her. Think like Lois Lane in All-Star Superman
where she gets one day to be Superwoman...
And I totally agree with you about
Blendin
Wendy (or Soos even).
Kinda of a moot point here, since she had no idea about any of the rift stuff, plus she isn't exactly the brightest bulb out there. Not really a difference between here and when Wendy was fucking with her in Boss Mabel
(despite the end of the world thing...)
Look at it this way - we had a season and a half to see who Stanley really is deep down. The last few episodes focus on Ford to let us know what kind of person he is behind the intelligence (which points to, not exactly a kind or caring one).
Remember, the girls' quest for the unicorn hair was meant as a diversion. He knew who Mabel was in personality, and sent her on a fool's errand, never expecting her to come home successful...
Tons of cool shit here if you slow it down:
-Manly Dan shielding the two younger boys from harm, then later fighting back against something downtown.
-The Manotaurs running for the hills!
-Mabel being taken away as a restored Blendin (with hair!) looks on in horror. Was this the deal Gideon made with Bill?
-A magic wave hitting the town before Soos's grandma is transformed.
-Dipper and Wendy to the rescue? Facing off against an lineup right out of Maximum Overdrive!
See above...
Also, one last little detail about this episode:
http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tv/gravity-falls-weirdmageddon-part-i/EP015662900058?aid=dxd
The whole final scene of the latest episode reeked of
"We need something time related to happen for Mabel, oh I know bring in the time travel guy!"
he was supposed to have hair, which made the whole thing kind of obvious
I think for some reason I thought he had more.
Probably because it's been ages since we saw the damn character.
Eh. Nine episodes isn't such a long time.
I'm also a little curious as to why you disliked
Blendin being Bill's puppet
1) He doesn't know
Bill and would therefore be unprepared to resist him
3) He's one of like three named characters on the show with access to
time travel
Like, who else could it have been? He was literally the only sensible choice.
Nine episodes isn't a long time if the show was properly airing on a weekly schedule. But, it's not. It's ages since the last episode with him in it aired on TV.
I didn't like it because I thought it was the equivalent to pulling a rabbit out of a hat. He was the "perfect possible character" because he was the only possible character. In the space of a few minutes we go from Mabel wanting Summer to repeat forever to him appearing and wow convenient plot twist look who shows. It's pretty crud IMO because it was so perfectly convenient. It's not what I really expect of the series.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Those were all awesome. You smoking. Only bad episode was the purge episode.
IMO the show took a rushed dip in creativity and think S1 was way better.
Ditto. Also the only bad thing for me this episode was them doing the whole "Dipper doesn't put Mabel first so he's in the wrong" plot again.
Fair point about the scheduling. In real time, how long has it been since episode 8 went out? Like, at least a few months I'm guessing.
As for the rest, the convenience of it made perfect sense to me. If there's one thing we know about Bill, it's that he's always watching, always listening and always waiting for a vulnerability to become apparent. It happened exactly the same way in Sock Opera; no sooner had Dipper expressed a position that Bill could exploit, there he was.
So when Mabel comes running out of the protection of the shack loudly wishing for mastery over time, what else is Bill going to do? He finds a person uniquely suited to the job (and more critically someone whose abilities and relationships are known to us, the viewers) and puts them to work. It all fit together beautifully, IMO. If it'd been Lolph, Dungren or someone new we'd never met, I'd have been right there with you. That would've been like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Blendin's the opposite of that; he's someone with all the right attributes, and he's been under our noses since the first season.
There was build up to what happened with Dipper's body being taken over. There was no build up for Mabel's situation. Right?
Why does everything have to conform to Mabel anyway? I know it's kinda lame for Dipper to not discuss his situation with Mabel but at the same time he's sorta like her emotional cushion, when she has all the friends and he has only her but he has to stay that way (200% dedication to her life) for her to be seemingly stable.
UberTag
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11 months, to be precise. Blendin's Game first aired on November 10th last year.
Almost a year later after being completely forgotten about and never mentioned, he conveniently shows up to serve as a plot device.
In Sock Opera, time was on Bill's side. He could afford to be casual, because he didn't need to actually do anything until Dipper triggered the 5-minute countdown on the laptop.
Regarding Mabel... well, no-one's going to argue their relationship is balanced or fair.
But that's the point; he's the rifle on the wall. If it'd been some new character we'd never met, it would've been a terrible conclusion. The fact that it was a guy with an incredibly useful power that we've known all along is what makes it so perfect.
Man how could you forget those three episodes Mortynight Run, Auto Erotic Assimilation (
that ending
Mr. Poopybutthole
I will agree though that it has a few lackluster episodes albeit still fun episodes in the second half of the season with Get Schwifty and Interdimensional Cable 2: Tempting Fate. But yeah while season 1 is a lot more consistent in quality Season 2 for me still has some of the shows highest highs yet and is hardly eh.
Truth be told I'd have been less irked by the ending if
Bill himself
That's actually what I was expecting to happen, to be honest. I thought they were going to suggest that Mabel was in enough emotional turmoil to make the mistake of doing a deal with Bill. I'm glad that didn't happen; it would've really knocked Mabel down in my estimation. Neither twin is ignorant to how dangerous Bill is now.
Blendin though? One of Mabel's flaws is that she always wants to see the best in people, and as a reformed "villain", Blendin couldn't be more of a perfect choice. Mabel would've trusted him out of hope that he'd changed if nothing else.
Saw the most recent episode last night and all I could think was "we're already at the ending?" Though I don't feel like the recent episodes have been bad in retrospect it feels like the series has fallen off a cliff since Ford's introduction. Weirdly enough I wish there were more filler episodes in between Tale of Two Stans and this one. I want more funny episodes with the townsfolk and to see how Ford interacts with them.
It feels like Ford was supposed to be with the gang for a long time, maybe a full season's worth, before Bill breaking the void, and like Bill should've already attempted to destroy the void multiple times and failed.
It also feels like the ending of the episode was completely undeserved, Blendin returning was completely random and Mabel just giving him the void felt a little too dumb of her, even if she didn't know what it was and was emotionally vulnerable. Shouldn't she have questioned why he was helping her and what he was doing back in their time? Shouldn't she have been just a little suspicious of what he wanted to do with this weird thing which wasn't hers?
The moment of Bill finally destroying the void should've been an unexpected shock but instead it was super obvious.
It feels like Ford was supposed to be with the gang for a long time, maybe a full season's worth, before Bill breaking the void, and like Bill should've already attempted to destroy the void multiple times and failed.
It also feels like the ending of the episode was completely undeserved, Blendin returning was completely random and Mabel just giving him the void felt a little too dumb of her, even if she didn't know what it was and was emotionally vulnerable. Shouldn't she have questioned why he was helping her and what he was doing back in their time? Shouldn't she have been just a little suspicious of what he wanted to do with this weird thing which wasn't hers?
The moment of Bill finally destroying the void should've been an unexpected shock but instead it was super obvious.
What in the name of fuck
That seems a lot darker and sinister than what we actually got on-screen. Ford just mentioned that Unicorns were difficult to deal with which was why he wasn't looking forward to having to obtain the hair, nothing about him doubting in Mabel's ability to come through.
And this goes completely against the fan narrative that Ford doesn't think highly of "the fun twin" due to his relationship with Stanley because he was both blown away and incredibly grateful when Mable showed up with the hair.
Yup, the hiatus didn't do the show any favors. Though that particular episode has been rerun to death since it aired. And there were two or three all-day Gravity Falls marathons on Disney XD before the airing of the new episode. Blendin the character wasn't forgotten, but it sounds like you and others wanted him to have more of a presence on the show to justify why he was chosen to be the one possessed by Bill over someone who the audience would be more receptive to as an unwilling/unknowing betrayer and thus more emotionally devastating.
I'd forgot the dude cos I don't live in the USA and didn't have those reruns. So it was like "oh why is here he oh ok um alright ummmm" for that scene. Meanwhile, Wendy complained about high school.
Wow, thank you for the heads up
! Will tune in now and re-watch one of my favorite shows for a few hours .Nah, it was because there was no build-up and it was obvious from the first moment that he was possessed by Bill.
The show makers could easily write a reason for Blendin to make a deal with Bill, but that would mean nothing when he still shows up in the last five minutes of the episode and immediately starts acting like Bill.
Well, that too.
MaverickHunterX
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For those interested, |OT| for the 3DS game is up:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1126490
Let me know what you think...thanks!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1126490
Let me know what you think...thanks!
SigmasonicX
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That link's broken. Here's one that works.
As one note, you probably shouldn't have both spoilers and random asides under the spoiler bars, especially so many of them. And probably not so many screencaps.
As one note, you probably shouldn't have both spoilers and random asides under the spoiler bars, especially so many of them. And probably not so many screencaps.
MaverickHunterX
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Thanks for the corrected link. I'm on mobile right now, so I probably screwed something up somewhere...
About the note, anything in specific you'd want me to change? I'm definitely open to any suggestions...
Bright Side of Life
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Even though it felt rushed near the end, still liked it but yeah should've been a two parter with Ford hanging out with Dipper and Mabel dealing with growing up and then the whole Bill thing.
MaverickHunterX
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lV8Dx2tV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czwX6ypOd-M
Huh, some Mad Max action in that last one. Here's to hoping that they don't have Wendy jobber to Bill in grand Vegeta-esque fashion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czwX6ypOd-M
Huh, some Mad Max action in that last one. Here's to hoping that they don't have Wendy jobber to Bill in grand Vegeta-esque fashion...
Baron von Loathsome
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It is nice to see her get in on that grand finale action, though.
MaverickHunterX
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Notes and spoilers from the GF game:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182779835&postcount=42
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182779835&postcount=42
Link is not working.
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