gt4 does 1080i ingame

Man, those shots DC posted are pretty nasty looking (and I'm running my desktop at 1600x1200 so they probably are much worse on people using lower resolutions).
 
I don't think anyone needs to apologize to cobragt3, because the facts speak for themselves. Next time he speaks, those that shrugged him off will stop and listen, that's ownage enough. :D

I just hope everyone learnt a valuable lesson today. Taiwanese info is just as good as Japanese info. No one would have questioned this info twice if any of us who can read Japanese were to start a thread saying how 2ch reports are pouring in that GT4 supported 1080i. Oh well, at least it didn't go as far as accounts being put on the line. :lol
 
HOw good is Playasia in importing stuff? I'm about to order this game but will they ship it today? Where do they ship from? Japan or US?
 
"Man, those shots DC posted are pretty nasty looking (and I'm running my desktop at 1600x1200 so they probably are much worse on people using lower resolutions)."

he he - like i said - it was a case of pointing the camera at the projector , resizing and dumping them

also note, they are from the Dive replay mode, so they are deliberately "grainified" and have weird colours...

i'll do some video capturing on the PS2-PC linked machine tomorrow, but that will involve fixing my capture card.

Regardless, the game looks fantastic - at least the shots give some indication of lighting! ;)
 
So is 720p possible in future PS2 titles?

Edit: Just did some simple math, and it seems that 1080i should be easier than 720p, so I guess the answer is a No.
 
probably not since 720p would actually require more pixels to be rendered. for a 60 fps game anyway.

But color me shocked, those pics might not be uber quality, but at least you can see some sick definition in some tiny areas. The guy inside PD that first suggested 1080i probably got laughed at, and now that it's running, probably everyone inside PD is laughing in unison at the Forza team :p

Polyphony just schooled everyone. Developper of the year!
 
duckroll said:
I don't think anyone needs to apologize to cobragt3, because the facts speak for themselves. Next time he speaks, those that shrugged him off will stop and listen, that's ownage enough. :D

I just hope everyone learnt a valuable lesson today. Taiwanese info is just as good as Japanese info. No one would have questioned this info twice if any of us who can read Japanese were to start a thread saying how 2ch reports are pouring in that GT4 supported 1080i. Oh well, at least it didn't go as far as accounts being put on the line. :lol


I still think his posts in this thread were obnoxious, he basically kept on rewording the same post again and again without adding anything to make his info more credible, not to mention the amateurish style of his writing. I totally support jinx for confronting him.
 
mr2mike said:
probably not since 720p would actually require more pixels to be rendered. for a 60 fps game anyway.

But color me shocked, those pics might not be uber quality, but at least you can see some sick definition in some tiny areas. The guy inside PD that first suggested 1080i probably got laughed at, and now that it's running, probably everyone inside PD is laughing in unison at the Forza team :p

Polyphony just schooled everyone. Developper of the year!

I don't think it would really matter with 720p, anyway.

The difference between 720p and 1080i is very small, unlike the jump from 480p to 1080i.
 
Naked Snake said:
I still think his posts in this thread were obnoxious, he basically kept on rewording the same post again and again without adding anything to make his info more credible, not to mention the amaturish style of his writing. I totally support jinx for confronting him.

<bangs head against wall> elitist prick much?
 
Culex said:
I don't think it would really matter with 720p, anyway.

The difference between 720p and 1080i is very small, unlike the jump from 480p to 1080i.

Yeah, and, errr... my TV can't display 720p...so I'd prefer they stick with 1080i. :P
 
Naked Snake said:
I still think his posts in this thread were obnoxious, he basically kept on rewording the same post again and again without adding anything to make his info more credible, not to mention the amateurish style of his writing. I totally support jinx for confronting him.

Right, whatever floats your boat. Isn't it great that GAF is such a loving community?
 
cobragt3 said:
I aint gonna hold a beef, I can fully understand where everyone was coming. I mean, gt4 is on the ps2, the weakest console of the 3 and having gt4 run a solid 60fps and have hd res formats with alittle AA to boot is fucking unbelievable.

Man you're being way too nice after owning half the board ;)
 
As amazing as this is, it doesn't seem like true 1080i.

But beggers can be choosers, can we? It's certainly higher res than 480P, and that's incredible enough (although, I'm not sure I prefer the game at higher res than 480P..... the extra res does seem to amplify the game's visual defacts more).

I'd prefer to play @ 480P in this case, but that's just me.

Did I just say I'd play GT4? :lol
 
Wow, no one has taken the time to apologize to cobragt, I'm shocked. GAF at it's finest. I guess there were a lot of haters on here.

Um, no....I don't recall anyone(certainly not the majority) insulting him or anything...but because some people preferred to be cautious and not just take something at face value, only to be disappointed later, he labled them/us haters? Personally speaking, I always prepare for the worst, and if I get good news instead, then it is all the better...rather than expect the good news, and then be extremely disappointed by the bad news. I don't think any sane person can say anyone who had doubts regarding this feat didn't have any sound reasons for having them...and it is that arrogance, the "Hey y'all if you don't believe me you MUST be a hater" all-or-nothing stance, that disqualified him from any such apology. Sure he was right, but as far as i'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with wanting to wait from more widespread confirmation before doing the happy happy joy joy dance.
 
before i forget - one pain in the arse thing about photo mode....

placement of you car is restricted (at least in the few locations i chose)

for shibuya there are three "areas" you can place you car, everywhere else is forbidden.

Not a deal breaker, but somewhat of a pisser.
 
Now i want to see what GT4 Mobile for PSP looks like. I hope Polyphony had enough time so it can stand up to the PS2-version.
 
This sucks, my credit card keeps calling my name. It's saying "Hey PG2G, let's go get that 46+" DLP you were planning to buy for the Xenon launch."

*sobs*
 
DC, try and blow your engine in gt4. Read this
Yes, you can blow your engine. I've done it only once, but I remember flooring the engine during the countdown, and after it launched there was this big pop sound, then you can no longer accelerate beyond 2k rpm or something, and your engine keeps popping and you can see blow-off from the mufflers.


http://boards.ign.com/Gran_Turismo/b5208/75245037/?21
 
Dcharlie - So how big a difference is there between the 480p and 1080i modes? Shogmaster seems to think there isn't much, I would like your opinion since you are viewing on a nice projector.
 
Dunno if this been said, but I seriously hope Sony includes a 60Hz option for the PAL-version. I want rock solid 60fps.
 
Well, I'm sold on graphics. I buy GTs for the sake of graphics anyhow...
It will look awesome on my 60 inch LCDP with 1080i ;) (One happy graphic whore here.)

lachesis
 
Data Logger (my 2nd trial on International License B test 2)

gt4-datalogger.jpg


Importing the completed GT4 Prologue save translates into passes for Japan license A & B, now trying to get International A & B.
 
OmniGamer said:
Um, no....I don't recall anyone(certainly not the majority) insulting him or anything...but because some people preferred to be cautious and not just take something at face value, only to be disappointed later, he labled them/us haters? Personally speaking, I always prepare for the worst, and if I get good news instead, then it is all the better...rather than expect the good news, and then be extremely disappointed by the bad news. I don't think any sane person can say anyone who had doubts regarding this feat didn't have any sound reasons for having them...and it is that arrogance, the "Hey y'all if you don't believe me you MUST be a hater" all-or-nothing stance, that disqualified him from any such apology. Sure he was right, but as far as i'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with wanting to wait from more widespread confirmation before doing the happy happy joy joy dance.

Let's take a look, shall we? He was told time and time again he was wrong. He simply called people who did not believe him a hater- how siu that worse than what was said to him?

Debunked at the same forum. Sorry, you lose!


PS2 struggles w/ 480p. I knew that was bullsh!t.


Who was talking out of their ass here?

It's not even about framerate...

The PS2 doesn't have enough ram to handle such a resolution, at least I can't imagine it does. The demo was field rendered, so if that were the case, they must have done a LOT of work.

That would be so cool if true, though.

I uh, find that *VERY* hard to believe. I bet my ass that the 1080i mode is only available for the photo mode.

You people are dellusional if you think that of all the PS2 games, something like GT4 is the only one able to run on 1080i.

Agent X brings up an interesting point. I remember that Kaz himself(or someone else from Polyphony) said that 480p wouldn't be possible on GT4, because of hardware constraints. How the shit did they manage 1080i then? Sorry, but just...no.

As some others have mentioned, I would have expected a HUGE uproar about this if it were true...the game is just about to be released in Japan, and NO PS2 game has done 1080i before, and only a few XBOX games do, and none of them are as graphic intensive as GT4. IF it is true ingame somehow, I expect it to be like GT's HiFi mode...in other words, it comes at the cost of some cut backs. You don't have to be a damned hater to doubt this...simple logic would demand some cautionary skepticism.

I'm honestly tempted to say that if GT4 DOESN'T support 1080i in-game, your account should be permabanned because of the way you've carried on in this thread. Then again, it might be more fun to listen to you getting mocked until you leave on your own. We'll just have to see how this plays out, hmmm?

Look, I'm reacting to a guy calling anyone here who doubts his story a "hater" when I haven't seen any proof from him whatsoever.

If you have some links you want to provide, I'm all for it.

He provided links to the official site as well as impressions from those who have the game. What else did you need?
 
shantyman said:
Let's take a look, shall we? He was told time and time again he was wrong. He simply called people who did not believe him a hater- how siu that worse than what was said to him?







Who was talking out of their ass here?















He provided links to the official site as well as impressions from those who have the game. What else did you need?

And? It was still hearsay, and people's doubts were still well-founded....is 480p support widespread on the PS2? Has there been ANY 1080i PS2 game? Even a simple one? Weren't there quotes from Polyphony people that went against the possiblity of even 480p for this game? Didn't some of the resident techies have their doubts due to the PS2's limited 4MB? So to err on the plausible side of things, one is a hater? To want something more solid than "This person from this forum said such and such" is to be a hater? I mean, it's just simple logic that one would thing such an "OMG" feature as this would have made quite a bit of noise...but it came out of left field, so why does doubting=hating?
 
Yeah...I sided with logic, but Polyphony not only defied logic, they fucking obliterated it. Logic somehow failed me this time. :P
 
I think there was a special level of disbelief/derision towards him because he is/was a jr. member. Do you honestly believe that if any regular member with tag and or high post count would have been treated like an idiot like he was? There were a lot of condescending remarks, his only reply was if you didn't believe it you were a hater. I'm surprised he did not say something ruder (which was certainly warranted).
 
/eats crow

/hugs hdtv

/bows to cobra

/pre-orders GT4

Damn, this thread made me do a lot of things :p
When is GT4 out in the US now? January 20th sometime around that?
 
Buggy Loop said:
/eats crow

/hugs hdtv

/bows to cobra

/pre-orders GT4

Damn, this thread made me do a lot of things :p
When is GT4 out in the US now? January 20th sometime around that?

Sony's official website updated and has it set for March.
 
Maskrider thank you for taking the time to take screenshots, if it is not too much trouble could you please take a capture of the Australia Cars screen.

DCharlie, what projector is your PS2 hooked up to? I ask because I'm interested to find out what native resolution your projector has.

Also, props to Cobra for sticking to his guns.
 
Huzza said:
Maskrider thank you for taking the time to take screenshots, if it is not too much trouble could you please take a capture of the Australia Cars screen.

DCharlie, what projector is your PS2 hooked up to? I ask because I'm interested to find out what native resolution your projector has.

Also, props to Cobra for sticking to his guns.

Only up to this moment screens as I am still getting all the licenses

Australian
gt4-aus-mfr.jpg


Belgium
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-bel-mfr.jpg

Dutch
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-dutch-mfr.jpg

French
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-fr-mfr.jpg

British
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-gb-mfr-1.jpg
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-gb-mfr-2.jpg

German
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-german-mfr.jpg

Italian
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-it-mfr.jpg

Japanese
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-jpn-mfr-1.jpg
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-jpn-mfr-2.jpg

Korean
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-kor-mfr.jpg

Spanish
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-spn-mfr.jpg

Swedish
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-swed-mfr.jpg

Tuner Cars
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-tuner-mfr.jpg

American Cars
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-us-mfr-1.jpg
http://z-o-g.org/imgs/gt4/gt4-us-mfr-2.jpg
 
OmniGamer said:
And? It was still hearsay, and people's doubts were still well-founded....is 480p support widespread on the PS2? Has there been ANY 1080i PS2 game? Even a simple one? Weren't there quotes from Polyphony people that went against the possiblity of even 480p for this game? Didn't some of the resident techies have their doubts due to the PS2's limited 4MB? So to err on the plausible side of things, one is a hater? To want something more solid than "This person from this forum said such and such" is to be a hater? I mean, it's just simple logic that one would thing such an "OMG" feature as this would have made quite a bit of noise...but it came out of left field, so why does doubting=hating?

hearsay? The 14th post in on the 1st page into this topic he posted a link to the Official GT4 Japanese page that said 1080i as clear as freakin day.
 
I don't think anyone doubted the fact that the game had 1080i. They doubted the fact that the A-spec mode did. That 1080i would have been on the official site if B-spec had it or Photo Mode had it.
 
So, its actually confirmed that GT4 does a mode similar to 1080i?
 
Hahaha, you know what's the best part about all of this? People who used to crack on the game's hi-res screenshots and said "it'll never look like that on your TV" must be feeling so incredibly stupid at the moment it's probably hurting them. :lol :lol

God I've never been this excited for a game.
 
PG2G said:
I don't think anyone doubted the fact that the game had 1080i. They doubted the fact that the A-spec mode did. That 1080i would have been on the official site if B-spec had it or Photo Mode had it.

Exactly...i'm referring to the "misc. person on misc. forum said such and such, so it MUST be true" stance. Simply "in-game" was all that was confirmed, and it would not have been impossible for it to have been either b-spec, or photo mode, or reply mode or whatever other caveat. Geez, it's like it's illegal to think first and try to weigh the plausibility of certain things before going batshit insane with bliss. Anyway, i'll not derail this any further...personally i'm very pleased and amazed that this is true, and whenver i do get an HDTV, GT4 will definitely be the first game I try on it.
 
ourumov said:
Wow...At the end it seems SEAT appears. I wish you could drive this one:

It was a myth in my childhood. The almighty SEAT Ibiza Cupra Kit Car that won everything in the Kit Car category. I remember buying the Scalextric one :)

Almost your wish

seat-ibiza.jpg
 
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