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Guardian Heroes HD |OT|
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iconoclast
Member
Ugh, if you try to buy this with a US account, it costs 3429038200 MS points. So annoying. Guess I'll just play the demo for now.
Teknoman said:
Just make a new silver account on Xbox.com. Especially good if you plan to move to Mexico some day!
Anywho, demo is pretty nice, and gives you great insight into what has changed in the game. Some minor notes, all based off Han + In game Manual:
The old "magic button" is now a "special attack" button, as well. For instance, with Han, this makes him do his HEAVY slash, and if you hold down while pressing it, it does an uppercut.
Characters have been kinda modified to have weak -> Strong -> Special attack chains.
Throws have been shifted to Strong and Special, rather than just Strong. There's also Throw breaking.
In the air, you now seem to have "Multi hit, Strong hit, and Smash-down" strikes. Think of it like MvC / DS Bleach games.
UNIVERSAL AIR DASH! Depending on what you DO out the dash, you get a lot of options. Sailing through their air with attacks, quick downard angle retreats with the guard button... mix it with double jumps and different air attack properties, and it's a very freeing system.
Hit stun and effects seem altered; certain attacks vaccum the opponent into your combos.
Han seems to be missing his old f+Weak in remix mode. Maybe it's mapped to something else?
Universal "Blowback" and "Advancing Guard" systems have been added. They take Magic points to use. Also, improved Aerial Ukemi systems.
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In the end, the Remix mode is almost like a sequel. I can see a LOT of fun coming from exploring these changes with the various characters! It should also help make the game feel much more manageable to play, and give you much more control.
Oh, and the script is changed from the old US script, just so ya know. Even in Saturn Mode! "We got a Friggin' Undead Warrior with us!" says Han at one point. It has it's own charm points, however, so it should be fun to see how it is over the full story. Seems competent, and like it's trying it's best to make sure each character has their own "voice" and mannerisms.
m0dus, does that special art at the download screen hint at a fully redrawn intro? I have no idea from the Demo download, lol. It looked very solid though, I must say! (I'm on an SD screen as well, so I wonder if I saw all of it?)
Oh, talking about Art reminds me: Gamer pic unlocks from just staring the game. Undead Hero is go!
Seraphinianus
Banned
The classic mode feels more natural to start with for me.
I like the remix graphics a lot!
I like the remix graphics a lot!
Snkfanatic
Banned
It's still up on the Mexico store? Makes no sense to me at all.
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
I've tried buying it from my US account but I get an error. Seems I can buy it from my mexican account I made though, so how would I go about playing it on my US account if I bought it from my mexican one? Is it even possible?
Full game on the Mexican Marketplace? Hell, why not? I'm in, anyone else going to jump?
http://marketplace.xbox.com/es-MX/Product/GUARDIAN-HEROES-TM/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258410b2b
http://marketplace.xbox.com/es-MX/Product/GUARDIAN-HEROES-TM/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258410b2b
Phonomezer
Banned
I'm really, really tempted, but I don't want it tied to another account 
show me your skeleton
Member
anyone who doesn't have a native mexican account able to lead us through how they got/bought the game?
can we use paypal?
can we use paypal?
Phonomezer
Banned
btrboyev said:
Larry fucked up, the game was not supposed to be released today.
Lord knows why it's up in Mexico and nowhere else
btrboyev said:
Ugly Americans, Rock of Ages, The Baconing, and Mortal Kombat Arcade Collection all came out today.
It's not on the US store today, because this isn't the release date. Being out on the Mexico store is an error, apparently. Possibly a fragment of an old release schedule, or maybe they only listen to half of Nelson's twitters
If you have a Mexican account, and points on it, sure, buy it if you like. As long as it's purchased on your system, the full game is available to anyone else who plays on the system.
Most of us probably want to wait though, to have it tied to our main XBL accounts, and to ensure that we have no possible errors with the game.
I'm fine with waiting some, if they take the time to give the game some promotion and such. If they just sit on their hands for _____ week(s) however, this'll just be annoying.
As a GH fan in general, I'm glad if it gets released alongside not so many different games, however. The game deserves to get as much attention and love as possible, and releasing it alongside 4 other games would have surely hurt it's sales.
show me your skeleton
Member
thank youu.Yama said:
need a mexican postal code, damnitttt
edit: finally found a mcdonalds on google maps.
Phonomezer
Banned
xbulletholes said:thank youu.
need a mexican postal code, damnitttt
Just google a store in Mexico or something like that.
All my foreign accounts use Versace Boutique addresses!
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
So if I buy this on my mexican account I can play it just as normal with achievements etc. on my original US account?
show me your skeleton
Member
wooo! now i just have to sleep, get up, go to work and come back before i can play the damn thing
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
Any specific reason why adding microsoft points on a mexican account is 59.99 for 500?
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
Yama said:
Any details on how you went about doing it?
show me your skeleton
Member
mexican pesos.yo_soy_el_topo said:
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Wow, the mexican thing is actually real and people have been getting it? I still need to see some vids before I believe this is possible.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I've got enough on my plate already(About to work on a review of Ugly Americans! ...........................................hurray), I'll just be an honest Jones and wait for the actual release.
Stinks hardcore though.
Stinks hardcore though.
Chauncy Talon
Member
jj984jj said:
Some of us are reliving 1996, while the rest are finally receiving a great game.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
Maybe silly question, but if you get it in mexican Is the dialog text in english?
Poimandres
Member
mikespit1200 said:
Oh hell yes!
This game is better than any of those. One of the best beat 'em ups ever made.
Ryu bogard
Member
Created a Mexican account but i am at work now cant download the game till later. Are point cards region locked?
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
Junior Member
Muchi Muchi Pink said:
I guess that's why they have no treasure in their pocketbook.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
*sigh* Right then.
Anyone else have some impressions to post?
Anyone else have some impressions to post?
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
The trial so far is phenomenal. This will be the first game that might take the throne from MvC2 as my most all time played. Really impressed at remix mode, it's like they combined that Bleach DS game with the original GH for some really fun combos. Vs. Mode is very limited but has potential to be one of the greatest things ever. I did a 12 Han FFA earlier with no slowdown, it was bizarre and amazing at the same time.
PepsimanVsJoe said:
I can post more random stuff! Still all based off the demo.
The music loops a bit differently. This is probably a good thing! High quality, but no unnatural stops like old streamed-from-CD stuff was.
Some voices sound different, and some new voices have been added. It's similiar to KoF XIII's new voicework; it leaves a lot of the old stuff, but also gives higher quality recordings, or alternate ones. I can't tell if there are any totally new actors, as the new voices mesh rather well in tone and rhythm.
Sword and Normal Han are a bit different. In Remis mode, Normal Han's Y attack is a kick. Sword Hand's is the ->+weak attack move that regular Han has in normal mode, but seemingly not in remix. This actually is pretty cool though, makes Sword Han a bit more unique!
The Remix mode might as well be a massive SF-style rebalance + mini sequel. It plays like Bleach DS in many ways. Universal options are very welcome, and these systems see well thought out and developed. It seems to give new wrinkles to each character you can play in the trial. You can feel changes in things as minor as frame differences on attack start/recovery, to as large as new uses and applications for old skills, and the thought put into giving characters a new combo series/3 button attack system.
For instance, just the fact that you can dash+rapid punch with Ginjiro now, since his old -> + Weak Attack is now on it's own button, gives you new ways to dash in and attack, that come in VERY handy on the Hard difficulty, which starts unfair for EVERYONE except Sword Han, since the blade gives him a generous all-stat boost.
The more I read the new writing, the more I like it. It's a little odd in places (just like the old one), but watching Zur say something to Valgar along the lines of "You're my Assistant... Emphasis on the first 3 letters..." reminds me so much of Working Designs, who pulled a similiar "Yes, Commander Focker..." joke in Vanguard Bandits, that it's kinda pleasant. Firmly rooted in that age where subtly slipping stuff past the radar was more enjoyable than just flat out saying and doing stuff, like they'd do now.
The remix graphics look great on SD, btw. It looks more like a redraw than a crappy filter. Lines are very crisp, the pencilshade effect is actually quite nice, and it makes the larger, once horridly pixely giant characters look as if they're just made at native resolutions.
I've now spent hours just picking apart the demo... it's just THAT good. I think they put a good amount of love in this port, as this feels closer to "what would GH be like, if it was remade today?" than AGH ever did.
I'd just love to see MORE now! Not only because this is a demo, but because I love all the gameplay, art, and personality just as much as I did in 1996. It's great to prove that nostalgia doesn't cloud a games quality and value; some games just ARE that good, and there's no reason something this well made should have ever been missed by any who love this style of gameplay and genre.
Eh, that's enough gushing, though, lol. I'd really like to see what many others think about the changes, especially those who have purchased the full game already...
MightyHedgehog
Member
SAB CA, thanks for making the wait more difficult with those great posts, man. Remix mode and all of the changes make this sound like a pretty amazing release.
I'm probably more excited for this than most people as the original game never worked on my 4th Saturn, along with Golden Axe: The Duel.
Of course I could live without playing The Duel, but not being able to play this really pissed me off.
This will probably be the best DL game of the year next to Radiant Silvergun of course.
Thanks Mjr. Nelson for the trolling
Of course I could live without playing The Duel, but not being able to play this really pissed me off.
This will probably be the best DL game of the year next to Radiant Silvergun of course.
Thanks Mjr. Nelson for the trolling
MightyHedgehog
Member
You're right. Missing out on playing GA The Duel isn't a big deal as it wasn't much more than an afternoon or two of play before it was clear there was a lack of balance and depth for a fighter, even for the time of release ('96?). Not worth the $75 I paid for it, and another $75 for X-Men CotA and an old ST-Key before I got my Saturn switch-modded later that year.d0c_zaius said:
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
Got the demo. Plays and looks just as I remember it back when I was in high school. Actually even better. I will buy this once it is officially released on US Live. Until then the demo will have to do.
Downloaded the demo from a Mexican live acnt. For anyone wondering, you can still play it on ur own account once you have it on your system. The XBOX banner channels when you log on to Live even show Guardian Heroes coming out in Mexico with all the other Arcade games.
Played 12 player FFA with 11 CPU's of the same character. Seriously, how did Treasure know I wanted a 12 player fighting game...
Played 12 player FFA with 11 CPU's of the same character. Seriously, how did Treasure know I wanted a 12 player fighting game...
sixteen-bit
Member
And after it's officially released too, right?truly101 said:
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I need this in my life.yo_soy_el_topo said:
Won't be back home until Monday at the earliest though.