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Guild Wars 2 |OT| Buy Once, Sub Never, Fun Forever
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Except it's not the same thing. The apt comparison in this case would be if in Diablo 3 a vendor had (by mistake) iLvL 63 unidentified weapons for 20 gold. Now tell me what do you think that would do to the economy in the game.
If such a thing as you described happens there would be balance patch fix. Gaining experience through these means is hardly the same as having almost unlimited access to the most powerful items in the game.
That's a completely different definition. In real life you can exploit someone, but in game it means something completely different. It's a separate term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit_(computer_security)
Yeah. And judging from my case I have to say they have dealt with it accordingly. Buying some of them for yourself and maybe an alt or two = 72h. That's fair. Buying hundreds in hopes of getting really rich = perma. That's also fair.
Honestly the only little doubt anyone could have about this situations is some claim from Reddit that a guy got perma'd for buying like 20 of them or so - this is nowhere near what's needed to upset the economy in any way and looks like just enough for 1 person to supply 3 characters. A permaban for that is a little harsh - but then again it's Reddit, no way to know if the claim is true and evidence suggests otherwise.
Unless you bot. Then it's okay, apparently. Just 72 hour vacations.
No, Kripp got 72 hours. Krippi got perma.
edit: Apparently in-game mail is working again.
It's not a glitch
Also, just to repeat, I agree that it's wrong and my main issue is the severity of the punishment (especially compared to the 3 day temp bans botters received)
Maybe he'll actually sleep now.
How is it not a glitch? To say it was not a glitch means they meant to have that weapon at 21 karma.
Jon of the Wired
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Well, according to @GuildWars2: "If you bought a few weapons - you were not banned. If you massively exploited it - you were. read here: http://ow.ly/dmq3e ^MK "
ZombieSupaStar
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I would say a fair discipline would be a warning (at log in) and a rollback of their characters. but the communities in these games are usually piles of shit so I can imagine the calls for blood on a noted community figure.
sure it is
I see.
Also umm... is this the only place that this is posted? http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/z3qqm/guild_wars_2_status_thursday_august_30/
I hope that ArenaNet isn't actually doing game updates via Reddit and nowhere else, because... they have a website and a launcher for a reason, and I don't see this on either.
Honestly, even a 24 or 72 hour suspension + rollback would be adequate, but a ban is pretty extreme.
ZombieSupaStar
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I would say it would be because the intern in charge of the data entry on pricing made a typo, not because they intercepted packets, or other other cyber hocus pocus and got the transaction processed.
Glitch, bug, typo... whatever you wanna classify it is... as long as you take advantage of it.. it's an exploit.
Cool thing I just discovered: If you and a party member are at the same part in the story, and you do their story part, the game gives you the option to count it as progress in your story after completing it.
So, if you want, you can skip doing the same story mission back to back.
So, if you want, you can skip doing the same story mission back to back.
An exploit (from the verb to exploit, in the meaning of using something to one’s own advantage) is a piece of software, a chunk of data, or sequence of commands that takes advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability in order to cause unintended or unanticipated behaviour to occur on computer software, hardware, or something electronic (usually computerised). This frequently includes such things as gaining control of a computer system or allowing privilege escalation or a denial-of-service attack.
ZombieSupaStar
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well i hope the person in charge of said typo is disciplined as well.
Hawk269
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Regardless if it was Anets error, it was still an exploit. The item in question should have been listed for a substantial higher price and it was accidently posted at a lower price. Players knew of this and took advantage and bought hundreds of them, if not more. I think anyone that plays a MMO and see's this type of error would know that it was a fuck up on the developers end, but it was their choice to take advantage of the error.
They took the risk of buying a ton of these items, they knew it was a risk and yet they still took it.
They took the risk of buying a ton of these items, they knew it was a risk and yet they still took it.
Jumping on that error in hope of making millions of gold illegitimately absolutely deserves a ban. I don't care if it's called a "glitch", "hack" or "exploit". It's abusing the system, plain and simple.
I'm on a different server, can I still join the GAFguild?
BlazingDarkness
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Jewelling is coming along well, I'm at 149 now, my latest discoveries were giving me almost 7K exp each, I literally gained two character levels in about 40 seconds, sogood
dorkimoe
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If i go remotely close to them i get smoked
yes they are using reddit for their updates. it's PATHETIC.
blainethemono
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I think someone on that stream said one person did get banned for just buying one of the items...i think he was just mentioning a post he saw on reddit though, not like someone he knew personally or something
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/z3pzz/permanently_banned_for_buying_a_few_21_karma/
Well I've done things to help that
1. I've put a lot of points in acrobatics, and shadow arts... so I have some durability and traits to get me outta danger.
2. I use dagger/dagger... so I have use of the 5th skill that gives me stealth.
3. I use the 25% speed increase signet.
4. I use scorpian wire to bring them to me.
Between all my mobility options and stealth options... they have to reaaaaaly want me to kill me. Usually after a couple stealths they lose interest.
Other things you could do is use sword, or some of the shadow recall stuff. Pop in... hit some people and recall out once things get dicey.
Hawk269
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Well, I am sure the ones that got banned, at least some of them are going to try the "innocent card" and state they bought one. According to this updated info from Anet, people that bought 50 or more got a 72 hour ban, so one or 2 people saying they bought 1 and got banned are most likely full of shit.
[]Deimorz 25 points 28 minutes ago
Some more info about the bans from the GW2 Twitter:
Let me assure you: All the people we banned were fully aware of it being an exploit.
If you bought a few weapons - you were not banned. If you massively exploited it - you were.
If you bought 50 you are not permanently banned. MK
Infiltrator's Strike, the innocent little sword 2 skill, is in many ways my biggest asset.
ZombieSupaStar
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REDDIT Officially being used for game updates???
....these jokes are just beginning write themselves at this point....
Well, I suppose that explains why I was under the impression that ANet was not communicating anything. I don't go to Reddit, and I honestly should not be expected to. They need to be using their website and launcher.
ZombieSupaStar
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yeah I went into this game blind, and this company is coming across like a bunch of douchelords, I guess I should have researched it more...
I agree. However, they're making the actual posts there. They announce the post through twitter and facebook.
You kidding? That's how shit is supposed to work.
You get flagged for racist spam in map chat? 72 hour ban. Seems completely reasonable.
But not the official site or the launcher that every customer sees when they log into the game. This remains unacceptable.
JustProgress
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Arena Net gives 0 shits with the money in their pocket already
Seems like a terrible idea to discuss this sort of thing out in the open, when the person involved isn't the one posting.
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