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Guild Wars 2 |OT2| Funding An MMO Entirely On Quaggan Backpacks
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xenoflux2113
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What level do I need to be at to participate in the guild bounties/missions?
xenoflux2113
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Awesome I should hit that soon. heh. Also I think I should be ready for the next story dungeon, just hit 43 last night. IF anyone is planning on doing the manor (story) soon I would be more then happy to go along and I promise I will try and not die as much as I did in the caverns.
irfaanator
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It's a bit longer. I think it took us 45ish minutes for 2 compared to 20-30 for path 1,3.
There are a lot more silver mobs in path 2 which make it annoying, but the boss fight imo was actually interesting. It actually required a fair amount of communication. But running path 2 wasnt that bad.
Kos Luftar
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This made me laugh.
The only thing with bounties is that, since they are chosen randomly, you may get them only in high level areas or you may not. Luckily, there's none in Orr so good chance at medium level zone being chosen.
Path 2 is objectively longer and has the hardest boss, but it's a great, satisfying challenge to complete. I actually really like the path altogether, but a combination of it being long and not remembering it so well made a couple sections longer than they needed to be. I single-handedly quadrupled the length of this one bit where you need to just slowly escort a rock-lifting dredge to lift a rock- I thought you could just run through and I was so deeply wrong.
There's a great mini-boss, too. Actually, both the mini-boss and boss are of the type where you're likely to just run at it the first time, get completely dunked on and wipe thinking "wtf," then come back and go "ohhhh, I get it" and actually like the fight in retrospect.
All that said, there are too many silvers. The path needs to be tuned to just not take as long to complete despite actually being as long as it is. Not that paths can't be more difficult or have larger areas to cover than others, but that length should be actual, not artificial (HP sponges, 12 silvers instead of 6), 4 champions in a row). On the plus side, what it really gets right are the waypoints. You'll never think, "gah, I have to run all this way?!" *cough* TA *cough*
Re: dying, one important thing to remember is that unlike other areas of the game, dungeons really care that your gear is at your level. Note that I said level, NOT tier. Dungeons will artificially punish you for not having gear at or near your character level- I'm not exaggerating at all to say that, at level 60, level 60 Whites (purchaseable in your home city at any time for a paltry sum) are better to have than level 50 greens. Why this constraint? Because you can always, always get loot drops at your level in dungeons, no matter what level you are or what level the dungeon is. Actually, going in with whites and then repeatedly running a path is a pretty solid way to earn some gear upgrades in your level range.
There's a great mini-boss, too. Actually, both the mini-boss and boss are of the type where you're likely to just run at it the first time, get completely dunked on and wipe thinking "wtf," then come back and go "ohhhh, I get it" and actually like the fight in retrospect.
All that said, there are too many silvers. The path needs to be tuned to just not take as long to complete despite actually being as long as it is. Not that paths can't be more difficult or have larger areas to cover than others, but that length should be actual, not artificial (HP sponges, 12 silvers instead of 6), 4 champions in a row). On the plus side, what it really gets right are the waypoints. You'll never think, "gah, I have to run all this way?!" *cough* TA *cough*
CM Story is laughably easy to me, so much so that if they tone it down to the degree they just did AC Story it would probably be soloable. I'm happy to run it anytime, CM is an interesting idea for a "dungeon" anyway; I can't wait for the revamp.
Re: dying, one important thing to remember is that unlike other areas of the game, dungeons really care that your gear is at your level. Note that I said level, NOT tier. Dungeons will artificially punish you for not having gear at or near your character level- I'm not exaggerating at all to say that, at level 60, level 60 Whites (purchaseable in your home city at any time for a paltry sum) are better to have than level 50 greens. Why this constraint? Because you can always, always get loot drops at your level in dungeons, no matter what level you are or what level the dungeon is. Actually, going in with whites and then repeatedly running a path is a pretty solid way to earn some gear upgrades in your level range.
Jest Chillin
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Finally pulled the trigger on an MF set. bleh. Should've bought it months ago when the prices were lower. Live and learn.
Also, T3 bounties are harder overall.. but being that it's 6 targets, so far the mix has been good to us. I really think it's coded to give you at least 1 in the 30's zone and at least one of the harder traveling ones.
Also, T3 bounties are harder overall.. but being that it's 6 targets, so far the mix has been good to us. I really think it's coded to give you at least 1 in the 30's zone and at least one of the harder traveling ones.
Was thinking today, they should revise the starting zone for the Norn to reflect recent events. The Charr are okay because their fight with the Ascalonians continues, but it'd be badass if, instead of the Great Hunt (which has always felt like the weakest of the five starting areas) they had the Molten Alliance invading your homestead and you have to fight them off. Eir shows up to help, as usual, but plays a more important role than "Go kill this thing for reasons." End with a big dredge carrier and some kind of boss fight. Then you start in that hunting camp outside of Hoelbrak, now converted into a refugee camp.
xenoflux2113
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Good to know. I'll be sure to grab some gear at my level for the dungeon. If CM story is short I'll see about sending you a message tonight when I get online. I think for AC story my gear was at my level or within 4 levels of it. I was using the Tier 1 armor I had just bought the day earlier, so level 35 and I think I was 38-39 when we did that dungeon. I was able to upgrade my helm to a level 39 from what I got from the run.
Complistic
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Really dont see the point to one. Lets say an enemy has a .25% drop rate for a rare. (which is probably pretty close for your average mob, could be lower maybe) A 100% mf bonus is still only going to improve that to a .50%. Woopty doo.
xenoflux2113
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By MF we are talking about magic find right? That just increases the chance for better drops slightly? Or is there another benefit? Just wondering because I have a few of those coins sitting in my bank and was wondering if it was worth it to use them.
Jest Chillin
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You can boost your MF by 167% just with Equipment alone. If you max absolutely everything out with boosts, food, guild bonuses.. that can jump up to a max of 319%. It's pretty costly to do all that though.
In any case, it will pay off in the long run as it affects everything in the table. So while it may seem negligible for something like Exotics, it basically means more loot overall and better chances at valuable loot over trash loot. It's not going to be a quick benefit but when you're farming for Unique or Legendary weapons.. it's the best move to make.
Yeah we're talking about Magic Find. It increases the chances of all loot in the mobs table to drop. People tend to focus on the greater chances to get Exotics and Rares but it's really all about increases the liklihood of anything to drop which translates to getting materials faster which can bring you closer to your Gear goals. You can use the doubloons if you'd like though they don't offer the best MF rates, but anything is better than nothing. You may want to weigh out whether you can use them in your crafting for something more valuable in the short run though.
i hope anet gives us the ability to do full-gear-swaps as a one-click in the interface soon (in town only, probably). i do so want a mf set, but sometimes i'd rather be as dangerous as possible rather than as rich as possible (particularly in cases were i'm more likely to be dead than rich).
manually changing gear just isn't likely to happen; though i *have* been pining for a more classy look of late...
manually changing gear just isn't likely to happen; though i *have* been pining for a more classy look of late...
It's really not something to worry about until you're at endgame, though, and farming for something in particular most likely. Definitely came in hella handy when I was saving up for my ascended back piece.
So guys, a week from today is the patch. By far the most significant changes will be the smattering of WvW changes, but I have naively high hopes for the Living Story to open up in a major way, and I'm growing more and more interested to see the impact of the tweak to the event chests.
One thing I'm rather curious about is if the Megadestroyer and Gates of Arah will get the new rewards, and the Fire Ele untangled from the Fire Shaman- looking back, maybe the fact that they've been working on this solution is the reason they never bothered to "fix" their chests to the way the events are now. Maybe it'll just be a flag from now on ("Daily Rare? Yes/No") that they can choose to apply to an event without having to muck about with too much in terms of the loot tables within that event.
I'm really hoping that they do include those event fixes in this update. In my heart of hearts, I'm also really really hoping for them to add 2 or 3 more events to the "daily list," without mentioning a thing in the patch notes, for us to hunt down and find- setting a precedent for the idea that at any time, any big event in the game could "come online" so to speak.
On the other hand, they seem really really attached to the idea of having unique drops from each of these events. I can see where they're coming from as this is very cool, but I hope it doesn't slow down the enormous potential they've got to spread people out to less common areas of the game now that you can't just cycle the easiest events through your list of alts.
On that note, here's the spreadsheet of Unique Exotic drops Ashodin and I have been working on. This is just the confirmed/almost-definite items. For the accessories, for some of them we know the item by seeing the Blue drop, but don't know the full stat combination because we haven't seen the Exotic. The unique weapon drops are always exotic.
Dark Red is not found yet/conspicuously missing... Black is probably doesn't exist.
Necro and Engineer I think. ANet has said they have a real time chart that tracks the amount of people playing each class and it's pretty even with outliers being Necro/Engineer on the low end and Warrior/Guardian on the high end.
I'm betting the page will be updated on Wednesday with a WvW progression blog on Friday.
theMrCravens
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And Guild Treks Saturday (Friday maybe?).
That new content. omnomnom.
That new content. omnomnom.
Jest Chillin
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wtb a unique Short Bow and Dagger drop from Events! ;p
That new content. omnomnom.[/QUOTE]
Good question. I'll have to look at the timer and see what we're shaping up to, but yeah around then.
I'm so psyched for Guild Puzzles. I almost want to skip Rushes and go straight toward saving for that. But it definitely wouldn't be the most efficient way to progress, sooo yeah.
Also, I discussed this with Retro yesterday (and I suppose Ash has the right to overturn it) but I believe our policy for the time being regarding Guild Buffs will be the following:
-+5% Influence from Events should be perpetually active for us. There are too many of us at big events together too much of the time these days to let this go by.
-This can be achieved by simply starting the queue for it every day in the early evening EDT (before the reset). It takes 24 hours to queue and lasts for 24 hours, so as long as we maintain this schedule we can have constant uptime on that for the cost of 200 influence per day; we make this back in less than an hour.
-On weekends, when activity spikes, we'll activate the other influence buffs as well so that we max our gain during peak hours of play (+10% total, +20% dungeon).
You should be on to do a dungeon run tonight. Wink. Wink.
You can't skip anything. You have to unlock Rushes > Challenge > Puzzles.
Will do.
How do you figure?
they're all prereqs for each other in a line, i believe.
Bummer. Well at least that takes away any sense of what-ifness.
I saw people say on reddit that you need to unlock in a certain order. There's prerequisites for each one, some people tried to go right for challenges and the game was like NOPE and said they needed Treks and Rush first.
Right, I guess each unlock has a previous unlock as a prereq. At least it ensures your rate of merit acquisition is maximized.
Just looking this stuff over now. At least Rushes, Challenges, and Puzzles only have one tier each. What's crazy is that once we've got everything unlocked, we'll be able to earn merits at a rate of 110/week, with nothing to spend them on except glorious, tasty brand new buffs.
Of course, by the time that milestone is reached, they'll probably have added a brand new batch of missions to the game...
edit: Dat Ghost Wolf run.
Just looking this stuff over now. At least Rushes, Challenges, and Puzzles only have one tier each. What's crazy is that once we've got everything unlocked, we'll be able to earn merits at a rate of 110/week, with nothing to spend them on except glorious, tasty brand new buffs.
Of course, by the time that milestone is reached, they'll probably have added a brand new batch of missions to the game...
edit: Dat Ghost Wolf run.
wat
"Spider Scurry[1] - I really like this one even if the army of dredge camped here can be annoying at times. You are like a tiny "spiderman" and can leap from plank to plank using webs. You can go anywhere you want - horizontal, vertical."
wat
anywhere?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1al2rv/story_runes_of_the_jotun_chapter_4_land_of/
Upvote that ish, son
"Spider Scurry[1] - I really like this one even if the army of dredge camped here can be annoying at times. You are like a tiny "spiderman" and can leap from plank to plank using webs. You can go anywhere you want - horizontal, vertical."
wat
anywhere?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1al2rv/story_runes_of_the_jotun_chapter_4_land_of/
Upvote that ish, son
Kos Luftar
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Sounds like Ash and Jira might get some insider info during the scheduled late night dungeon run!!!!!
Nope. Just dungeon running.
Going by this it sounds that the rate of gaining gold is the same or has only changed slightly. I was a bit worried when I logged in last week and saw most precursor weapons having gone up in price by over 100 gold.
I can't say buying cores to convert into lodestones is particularily good though unless something has drastically changed since late January. The profit back then was really really low considering what you invested. Simply flipping crafting mats would yield a better return on your investment. Of course, if you have cores you want to sell it's a good option for quick cash but I'd recommend doing Citadel of Flame p1/p2 instead. It should only take about 30-60 minutes to complete both and you get to keep your cores. From what I've seen farming CoF p1 might be the most effective strategy if you want to make money at a steady rate. Depending on the drops you can make 1-2 gold for every run after the first one and it should take 15 minutes or less with a experienced group.
The rate of gaining gold for someone who has been flocking to the updated world events in addition to whatever shenanigans he or she was getting up to before has dramatically increased. I don't know how you could argue otherwise. It may theoretically slow in a week with the account-bound chest nerf, although the more I think about it, I don't think it will be an appreciable slowdown to the savvy player. There are a lot of events out there. I can't speak to what the prices of precursors indicate, but in my casual viewing they've always been incredibly volatile.
I absolutely would never recommend buying cores to convert to lodestones to sell back, which is why I never suggested it.
Depending on the lodestone of your choice, you could actually end up paying money for the privilege to do this. I was saying that if you have cores (and you will just get them over time, they deposit as collectibles now), it's a good idea for most types to spend the ~45s investment to upconvert them and sell them for massive profit. "You get to keep your cores" isn't a particularly compelling reason to not do this for someone who (like me) has absolutely no use for them at present. Similarly, tips like forging Mystic Weapons or crafting Exotics to sell take advantage of your existing inventory you have no use for in order to get an infusion of cash with little to no risk. Also, running CoF1, or flipping between 1 and 2, is included in what I put as the first method on the list: dungeons. Dungeons in general are basically the most reliable source of easy gold in the game once you get past an initial learning curve.
Why didn't I say "run CoF1?" Because that is boring. There may be a number of single things you can do over and over and over and over again to completely maximize your gold-revenue efficiency, but I dare you not to get completely burnt out on doing whatever that thing is in the process. I mean, of course, more power to you if you wish to run COF1 ten times in a row. You're absolutely right that it'll make you money. But with a good group, I can easily complete any two paths of AC within an hour, too. Or run one path of AC, plus SE1, and two World Events. Or take a temple in Orr and stick around afterward to kill and harvest til my inventory fills up.
You have to understand, even though I listed a bunch of methods, the most important tip in that post was after the list when I said do a mix of everything. From my perspective this is crucial to maintaining enjoyment of the experience while earning oodles of gold at the same time. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun! Again, if finding the most efficient gold/hour source and repeatedly performing that task until you have enough gold to be satisfied (or your head falls off) is how you want to play, there's nothing at all wrong with that. Basically I was just demonstrating with that list that it's not necessary to do that, and point out some of the lesser-known conversions and resources that can help grow your fortune.
Btw, I forgot one: Do (or at least finish) your dailies on an 80 character. If you manage to do them each day, that's a quiet little 35s extra per week for doing stuff you were gonna do anyway.
Yeah, I don't do high level fractals as much as I should. I see people offering all the time, I just usually don't have solid blocks of time where I know I won't have to go AFK for a few minutes at a time.
Jest Chillin
Member
and now I'm worried that by the time I decide to start running CoF for my lodestones, everyone in the Guild who does dungeons will be burnt (if they're not already). Yikes.
I still like the flow of CoF1, but by the time you're ready they might be revamping it.
If you are (were) in the EU Gaf guild, that's all but dead, talk to an officer about an invite into regular gaf.
(I think that's possible, right?)
Still on Gandara? I thought it was weird seeing hardly anyone online but I thought it was my playing hours.
Sweet writeup, Hawk. I needs me some gold.
I'm usually in from work by 1am GMT, so I just paid the transfer fee and moved promptly moved over to Stormbluff Isle [US]. No regrets whatsoever as it suits me just fine.
I'm usually in from work by 1am GMT, so I just paid the transfer fee and moved promptly moved over to Stormbluff Isle [US]. No regrets whatsoever as it suits me just fine.
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