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Guild Wars 2 |OT2| Funding An MMO Entirely On Quaggan Backpacks

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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Right we'll do that, also the guild is being renamed the Kos Luftar Force and you are guaranteed the next lotto win.

;)
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
I was going to make a "that would be gross"-type comment, then I realized I've unconsciously been bigoted against Tyrian miscegenation this whole time...

I need to go outside and reevaluate my life.
 

markot

Banned
Hm.

Buying the dye pack and using the pack from the laurel vendor.

The laurel ones have much rarer dyes, yellows are not uncommon. I didnt get one from the BLTC one >.<

I got an abyss dye from the laurel vendor too. Kinda regret selling it!

But the problem is on Asura its hard to see dyes...
 

Retro

Member
Love that we can have real, open discussion about what is lacking or just plain wrong with the game in guild chat without the discussion getting ugly. No sarcasm, really enjoy talking with people on how they view the game, since nobody is overly negative or hyperbolic. Guild chat in other games I've played is rarely worth reading, tonight was cool just talking about the game without anyone bashing/ defending.

Probably because people chatting in-game are actually interested enough to stay and play, so even if there are parts they dislike, the criticism comes from a genuine desire to see the game improve, whereas here on GAF the haters can just roll in to be antagonistic.

Good stuff. Just wanted to comment on it.
 

Ashodin

Member
Love that we can have real, open discussion about what is lacking or just plain wrong with the game in guild chat without the discussion getting ugly. No sarcasm, really enjoy talking with people on how they view the game, since nobody is overly negative or hyperbolic. Guild chat in other games I've played is rarely worth reading, tonight was cool just talking about the game without anyone bashing/ defending.

Probably because people chatting in-game are actually interested enough to stay and play, so even if there are parts they dislike, the criticism comes from a genuine desire to see the game improve, whereas here on GAF the haters can just roll in to be antagonistic.

Good stuff. Just wanted to comment on it.

There is a difference between criticism and negativity.
 
New content that was added during a patch. Once it's story was over it was left in, but it is pretty much pointless now, other than the jumping puzzles and a few ore nodes.
 

Retro

Member
There is a difference between criticism and negativity.

Oh, I know, it's just that I usually MMO discussions to degenerate rather quickly so it's always a nice surprise when it doesn't. The majority of times we're critical of the game in Guild Chat, it stays civil and people actually try to see where others are coming from. Nobody just logs in to bitch, and when they do they at least say why.

It's nice that in the entire 7 months the game has been out, we've only had to remove two people from the guild (and only one for any chat-related offense, unless you count harassment in Mumble).

Just sayin, we have these guild policies about excessive negativity that we rarely have to enforce because people get along so well, even when they're being critical of the game.

/shrug.

Sooooooo

Whats the deal with that crab island? Seems kinda useless now...

As Kos mentioned, they're doing stuff with it next month. For now, there's just a guild bounty, challenge and rush down there. Quite the misstep from ArenaNet, honestly, but I think they'll make good on it soon.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Hey guys,

I'm looking to schedule another full-scale guild invasion of Orr similar to Operation Tidal Sword once run by Warmaster Keoni.

The idea would be to rally in Fort Trinity, split into three teams to build up the reinforcements to take the Temple of Balthazar in Straits, push through to Malchor's Leap for Lyssa and Dwayna, through to Cursed Shore for Grenth and Melandru, and conclude by holding the Gates of Arah. Orr has changed since the last time we have done this. Several of the Temple events are tougher, but the rewards are better across the board as well.

We'd be opening up the temples for out server, but because I'd really like to do every templte Meta, we may guest to a small server to complete any that are already opened up on SBI. Because of this (you'll want to keep a guesting slot open), and time considerations (could be a long event!) I'd like to schedule it more in advance than our typical events, and go for a less common time so that some that might not always get to join in can have a chance.

I'm thinking we go for it on Thursday, April 18th at 7:30PM EDT (a week from this Thursday). What do you guys think?
 

hythloday

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That would actually be a good time for me, I think.

On a different topic, I feel like doing some low level fractals to get back into them.

I did a lot right after they came out and then stopped. I think I am at level 8 or something. I think i just got sick of the Jade Maw fight. It is a cool fight, but it is the same over and over.

So, anyone care to accompany a relative fractal novice sometime?
 
Thursday, April 18th at 7:30PM EDT[/B] (a week from this Thursday). What do you guys think?

So you are going to plan all the crazy events while I'm away. This is uncool.

Kos Luftar's GAF will not stand for this treachery!

I recommend Tuesday April 23rd (possible patch day)
 
Hey guys,

I'm looking to schedule another full-scale guild invasion of Orr similar to Operation Tidal Sword once run by Warmaster Keoni.

The idea would be to rally in Fort Trinity, split into three teams to build up the reinforcements to take the Temple of Balthazar in Straits, push through to Malchor's Leap for Lyssa and Dwayna, through to Cursed Shore for Grenth and Melandru, and conclude by holding the Gates of Arah. Orr has changed since the last time we have done this. Several of the Temple events are tougher, but the rewards are better across the board as well.

We'd be opening up the temples for out server, but because I'd really like to do every templte Meta, we may guest to a small server to complete any that are already opened up on SBI. Because of this (you'll want to keep a guesting slot open), and time considerations (could be a long event!) I'd like to schedule it more in advance than our typical events, and go for a less common time so that some that might not always get to join in can have a chance.

I'm thinking we go for it on Thursday, April 18th at 7:30PM EDT (a week from this Thursday). What do you guys think?

I might come, haven't seen the new rewards in Orr to be honest.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
That would actually be a good time for me, I think.

On a different topic, I feel like doing some low level fractals to get back into them.

I did a lot right after they came out and then stopped. I think I am at level 8 or something. I think i just got sick of the Jade Maw fight. It is a cool fight, but it is the same over and over.

So, anyone care to accompany a relative fractal novice sometime?
Me I do I do I do!

Level 10 is where The True Fractals Starts Here, so you're in good position to try it twice and then "graduate" to Tier 2.

I haven't been doing Fractals much lately since I found myself having a sort of overabundance of rings, though I can always use more for alts! I'm also really only interested in the skins for my engineer, so that's a long way off.

Still, I love the crap out of Fractals and I'm happy to help. I completely agree though- adding one or more boss fractals to the equation should be priority one. All of the other fractals have a "which is it this time" factor even within that individual map, so it is unfortunate the Jade Maw is identical every time. Another boss would be a game-changer.
So you are going to plan all the crazy events while I'm away. This is uncool.

Kos Luftar's GAF will not stand for this treachery!

I recommend Tuesday April 23rd (possible patch day)
Hey dude, nobody told you to get married. I don't know what you were thinking honestly. That's just a lifelong commitment to love and cherish your partner and unite your lives for the betterment of one another. This is an MMO Guild. Get your priorities straight.
I might come, haven't seen the new rewards in Orr to be honest.
Nice! You've seen the bonus chest for world events, right? All of the Temple events now have them, replete with unique themed accessories (but no weapons like the World bosses have, sadly). Gates of Arah is missing that, although the Grand Chest that spawns on completion seems to have been pretty buffed... all of us got something decent out of it last time we cleared the Gates.

Definitely worth seeing the new Grenth fight for the fight alone, too, if you haven't done it since Jan. :)
 
I might bring my ranger to that event instead. Nephenee retired after leading the invasion and chilling with her legendary. =P

Ranger could use the karma and possibly get something out of those rewards. Will mark it on the calendar, I'll pop in mumble and assist in leading if need be.
 

Lunar15

Member
I finally got to level 10 fractals after actually starting to care about fractals in the past month or so.

Gonna be doing a lot of Fractals in the future, and I'd love some company.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Yay Ursa and Melisande fractaltimes!

Having the numbers to overcome Lyssa's scaling ain't gonna be the problem. Getting the damn Pact to Balthazar's Priest will. God... damn... morale. Don't they understand we could take the temple without them?!
 
Kos Luftar's GAF will not stand for this treachery!

I recommend Tuesday April 23rd (possible patch day)
I'd be ok with the 23rd, just make sure it's at least as early in the afternoon as I will likley be hung over from the events that are to occur on the 22nd.

Btw, getting all 3 invasion forces to rally point will help a lot. "For each invasion force (North, Central, South) that reaches Rally point, the Pact's morale increases by 33%."
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
I'd be ok with the 23rd, just make sure it's at least as early in the afternoon as I will likley be hung over from the events that are to occur on the 22nd.

Btw, getting all 3 invasion forces to rally point will help a lot. "For each invasion force (North, Central, South) that reaches Rally point, the Pact's morale increases by 33%."
We're not moving it for one member. -_- Would not you be able to make the 18th?

And yeah, we're gonna split up into 3 squads- we'll sign up via our Orders like last time. :D
 
Yay Ursa and Melisande fractaltimes!

Having the numbers to overcome Lyssa's scaling ain't gonna be the problem. Getting the damn Pact to Balthazar's Priest will. God... damn... morale. Don't they understand we could take the temple without them?!

They always fail because people try to run it with only 1 branch of reinforcements. Though I think the whole thing needs a rework from Anet to be honest. That kind of zone-wide push should've been reserved for Arah.
 
We're not moving it for one member. -_- Would not you be able to make the 18th?

And yeah, we're gonna split up into 3 squads- we'll sign up via our Orders like last time. :D

Might want to keep those three teams working in tandem (still maintaining separate names) towards Lyssa Temple and split them off around Cursed Shore. I find it easier to send one team towards Melandru Temple, and two towards Grenth, with meeting back in Anchorage for the final battle towards the gates.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Might want to keep those three teams working in tandem (still maintaining separate names) towards Lyssa Temple and split them off around Cursed Shore. I find it easier to send one team towards Melandru Temple, and two towards Grenth, with meeting back in Anchorage for the final battle towards the gates.
Well, I'd like everyone participating to get the rewards from every Temple event. There's no real benefit to taking multiple Temples simultaneously other than saving time and hopefully that won't be a concern.
They always fail because people try to run it with only 1 branch of reinforcements. Though I think the whole thing needs a rework from Anet to be honest. That kind of zone-wide push should've been reserved for Arah.
We've failed with 2/3, though it was close. :p The scaling on the event is crazy, and generally the morale "mechanic" just sucks. Indication-of-failure bars that can only go down should be reserved for either simpler tasks (like the Warmaster Chan escort for Arah) or combined with a more interesting mechanic that helps you keep the bar up.
 

Retro

Member
So they just put four new town clothes on the BLTP:
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Could it be they're finally starting to ramp up production on town clothes? Because that's basically printing money for a B2P MMO like this.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Dapper, but I just really can't get into town clothes. I have my Warlock outfit on my thief and I love it, but it actually does fun stuff. Soon as they add some sort of passive benefit I'll grab something.
 

Retro

Member
How many dyes come in a Dye Pack? 5?

Wonder if it is cheaper to just by 5 dyes with Gold, rather than converting gold into gems.

7 dyes per kit; 5 common, 2 uncommon or rare. Pretty much better to go straight for gold, since the kits are a crap shoot and you're likely to get doubles you can't sell for shit.
 

oktarb

Member
So I didn't do the math on this but I probably should have. I took a level 1 thief and leveled him to 80 only using crafting. I was just in the mood to click stuff and wanted to see how a thief played. Now there are far easier ways to test a character but I figured what the hell. I'll have an 80 warrior and 80 Elementalist and finally a 80 Thief to round out the three archetypes you can play. It took about 6-7 hours.

All in all it too about 5000 gems converted to gold. I used a base crafting guide and leveled the below to 400:

Leather Working
Weaponsmith
Jewelry
Artificer
Huntsman
Armorsmith

I used one crafting boost about found that that made the guides harder to follow.

Of course you end up with a naked and untested thief that hasn't been any where which can be frustrating if you're trying to meet up with friends as you have zero way points.

I would replace jewelry in the future as its more complicated than say Tailoring and avoid Chef all together.
 

oktarb

Member
Well I bought 8000 ($100) bucks with a birthday visa card. I hate gift cards with a passion so i spent it on something I normally would never do.

My shame runs deep but I hold it at bay with a banner that reads "ArenaNet deserves money!"
 

Ashodin

Member
Damn, Super Weapon skin prices already doubled since the last time I checked. What the hell.

I'm not sure what's going on there. People are getting Bauble Bubble skins, making the dropped skins less farmed and/or desirable? No clue.
 

oktarb

Member
and jewelry and chef are some of the easy/cheap ones iirc

I avoided chef cause you have to spend Karma on ingredients which a level 1 doesn't have. On Jewelry I just found the process a little more confusing but its by no means a deal breaker. I found other skills easier to buy for and put together. Saving money wasn't the goal, it was more about efficiently doing it. But I am no master or I would have recorded the process in more detail.
 

Ashodin

Member
I avoided chef cause you have to spend Karma on ingredients which a level 1 doesn't have. On Jewelry I just found the process a little more confusing but its by no means a deal breaker. I found other skills easier to buy for and put together. Saving money wasn't the goal, it was more about efficiently doing it. But I am no master or I would have recorded the process in more detail.

So you wanted to save the karma on your other 80s then?
 

oktarb

Member
So you wanted to save the karma on your other 80s then?

Sure I could have done that but switching characters, running all over for the ingredients seemed like more of a hassle compared to buying 400 Elder Wood Logs.

Think of this as a test case of 'money is no option character leveling the lame way.' Hell I don't even recommend this at all but figured it was interesting enough information to share.
 

jersoc

Member
if they start adding more town and clothes and want me to buy them, they need to fix that they take up bank space first imo.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Well I bought 8000 ($100) bucks with a birthday visa card. I hate gift cards with a passion so i spent it on something I normally would never do.

My shame runs deep but I hold it at bay with a banner that reads "ArenaNet deserves money!"
Damn man. ArenaNet was all om nom nom this week.

I'm planning to craft my engi up, but only to about 30 or so and then follow my typical method the rest of the way. I like to use the whole leveling arc to see what I like and dislike about a class and start floating ideas for each of my three builds. But I do want a little bit of a jump-start on this guy... I'm more comfortable with the combat mechanics in general now to the point where I can handle a little more complexity upfront with a new class.

I feel sad that you can't swap weapons with an engi even if you're not using kits. I feel like there should be a grandmaster trait for it (You may swap weapons, but cannot equip any kits). I really want to utilize at least one build that doesn't touch kits at all but I'll have to comb through the traits and utilities to see what direction I wanna go. Generally, I love pistol/shield so far though. Both of the Shield skills have a ton of utility packed into an offhand set, very satisfying to use.
 
if they start adding more town and clothes and want me to buy them, they need to fix that they take up bank space first imo.

I couldn't agree more. I really like the town clothes options but taking up slots is too much considering you have to pay gems to get more slots after paying gems for the town clothes to begin with.
 
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