Nemesis121
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Vet slayer complete in 6 mins hahahaha Some kinda of bug at Melandru or maybe it was changed, instead of vets and regular enemies, nothing but vets spawned for the final event...
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Guild Wars 2 |OT2| Funding An MMO Entirely On Quaggan Backpacks
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please do the redesigns for the other dungeons. less just tank and spank bosses please.
I still say the best part of the entire dungeon is the cut scene where the berserker and fire storm come in.
Weltall Zero
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I really have to try the new dungeon. I'm so hilariously behind that I haven't even completed Eir's son part of the living story. Hopefully this weekend, which so far doesn't have a lot of commitments for me, will allow me to catch up.
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If you notice, Braham also revives/heals everyone, so it's very much a rallying "time to finish this guy" sort of moment. One guy basically absorbs the power of the other, which includes the game logic of healing up. Everyone's on an even playing field for the final phase.Of course, a "hard mode" version of the encounter would be a bit different. We originally had the ground pound rings knock you down, like in the Weapon Test. But that was one element that just pushed it over the top difficulty-wise for the mid-range players we targeted. Of course, a lot of hardcore folks want to see a hard mode version, and folks that haven't run a dungeon before would say it's still too hard as-is.
Balance was the hardest thing about getting the encounter just right, but I think we got it to a good compromise.
Our QA group was also pretty amazing at trying to exploit the hell out of everything with mesmers and thieves, so I put in a lot of precautions for that.
Jest Chillin
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Of course, a "hard mode" version of the encounter would be a bit different. We originally had the ground pound rings knock you down, like in the Weapon Test. But that was one element that just pushed it over the top difficulty-wise for the mid-range players we targeted. Of course, a lot of hardcore folks want to see a hard mode version, and folks that haven't run a dungeon before would say it's still too hard as-is.
Balance was the hardest thing about getting the encounter just right, but I think we got it to a good compromise.
Our QA group was also pretty amazing at trying to exploit the hell out of everything with mesmers and thieves, so I put in a lot of precautions for that.
I also like that depending on who you kill first there's a variance of difficulty in the final phase with the Bezerker bringing trickier elements than the flying boss (Firebringer?). So with more skilled groups, they can opt for a harder final phase by choice. It's awesome.
Edit: Also for anyone who hasn't seen the dungeon yet, the official Guild Wars 2 channel will be running the dungeon in about 12 minutes here: http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2 Living World Coordinator Steven Waller and Content Designer Leif Chappelle are said to be present on the stream.
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He pretty much died on us within seconds iirc
Great boss fight, but I kinda even like the first battle more, the environmental stuff was amazing in there.Also, I loved the countdown finale, that was pretty well done and I didn't see that coming at all. Poor guys who got stuck at the door, good times.
Jest Chillin
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Stream is live. Check it out!
Check it out!*tip* It's really a blast. Thanks for the hard work, and welcome to GAF!
Also, I can't stress enough how much I love them going back to in-game cutscenes. Seeing the bosses jump out of the wall to attack you definitely set the tone.
Also, not sure if it was a bug or not, but Rox survived the entire fight for me. Tanked the boss, just about. Finally, an NPC we can count on.
In the future though, I think it would be interesting to incorporate NPC's in a different way. It always seems weird that these "heroes" rush into battle with you and die immediately. It'd be neat if they were outside of the battle, giving you some kind of assistance. Much like what they did with Hodgins in the AC Howling King path. Hodgins lights the fires that you have to drag the mobs into. I think it goes a long way to making the player view these guys as allies and not just stupid AI that just die when a fight starts.
Also, not sure if it was a bug or not, but Rox survived the entire fight for me. Tanked the boss, just about. Finally, an NPC we can count on.
In the future though, I think it would be interesting to incorporate NPC's in a different way. It always seems weird that these "heroes" rush into battle with you and die immediately. It'd be neat if they were outside of the battle, giving you some kind of assistance. Much like what they did with Hodgins in the AC Howling King path. Hodgins lights the fires that you have to drag the mobs into. I think it goes a long way to making the player view these guys as allies and not just stupid AI that just die when a fight starts.
Whoa, great catches! I have my own theories now, but I'm actually starting to feel like a conspiracy theorist in fleshing them out. Sooo let's just see.
Hahaha,.. congrats, man. You've got a keeperSo what you see is Tooth of Frostfang the precursor. And thanks to the unnamed for jumping in and helping even though is was all customer crazies
Definitely worth it to focus on one far more than the other, only attacking it to get the enrage stack off.
Hey, Bruiser!
It feels very well-tuned. We'd certainly love a hard mode, too, though. GAFGuild devours challenge! Om nom nom.Love the cutscenes as well. And I actually found myself rezzing Rox when she went down during that. She, um.... rules.
Who else is in the Frostbite Fan Club after the new dungeon?
Can't be the only one who thought of this:
unrenowned
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I appreciate the feedback, it's my first week with the game and it plays rather different from other games I've experienced previously in the genre.
In all seriousness, though, at THAT low a level you shouldn't really be concerned with finding an optimized anything or even worrying about how your skills work together. At level 7 you'll get weapon swapping, which is totally critical for a mesmer, and your utility skills are incredibly important as well. Finally, the nuances of shattering are deeply complex, and you literally won't have the full array of options to consider with regard to the mechanic until level 80.
What you want to focus on first are the core game mechanics- namely, at that level, dodging. The game doesn't force you to get good at doing so until much later- really, not until the first explorable dungeon. But mastering it early on will make the rest of your leveling experience much more enjoyable and give you a foundation for skilled play as you develop your build. And then one day, when you unlock the trait Deceptive Evasion, you'll feel OP as hell
To answer your question about staff skills more seriously, you are definitely not using them in the most efficient order.
What you'll want to do is open with Chaos Storm- run up to your target so that you can position the AOE over both you and it at the same time. Chaos Storm gives you boons (good effects) and puts conditions (bad effects) on enemies, so it's always best used with both in mind. Then, while still in the field of Chaos Storm, use Phase Retreat, which is a Leap Combo Finisher, and watch what happens (edit: missed that you knew about the the combo already, ohhhh well.)
But really don't worry about getting that stuff down exactly as I described at level 4
I've mainly been trying to unlock all the weapons skills first, to get some kind of feel for the different weapons.
Though I feel like I'm quite inefficient when it comes to dodging. I'm mainly doing circle-strafing around the mobs since backing is too slow, and alternating dodge left/right with Phase Retreat to gain some distance while trying to keep in range of the Winds of Chaos boons and my illusions. Though I guess it takes a while to recognize the attack pattern of the different enemies, but I mistime it quite often.
Bear in mind that you are completely invincible when you dodge- it's not just a distancing move/position changer. You can dodge through attacks.
I realized I didn't suggest any early utilities: Decoy, Null Field, and Blink are great choices. You'll like them a lot.
I realized I didn't suggest any early utilities: Decoy, Null Field, and Blink are great choices. You'll like them a lot.
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How big/active is the eu gaf guild? Maybe I'll transfer.
I have no idea whats going on but my main has changed from SBI to a European server. I'm pretty damn sure I never transferred that character. I did transfer an alt back when it was free so I could play with a buddy. Do server transfers move all of your characters? Urg I am so damn pissed I can't play with GAF now :/
EU GAFGuild kind of went belly up after a couple people sort of .... erm.... hijacked it and then disappeared, leaving it to die. Everyone moved to Stormbluff Isle and the regular GAFGuild.
All characters are bound to the same server, it's not character-specific. If you transferred one, you transferred 'em all. Sorry.
Who else is in the Frostbite Fan Club after the new dungeon?
Count me in. I actually want to know how they came up with that name, honestly.
Jest Chillin
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Yeah I definitely want to gif (hard g fo lyfe!) some GW2 stuff now.
Weltall Zero
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I also made a yeef.
Yep, this thread is going places.
Next up: Asura /laugh as a dismissive ROFL macro.
the smaller circle is the entire ballsac
Ok, spectator mode is officially my favorite part of this update. I haven't even logged in since it patched: just keep popping on twitch to watch streams or recordings.
Like this one: http://www.twitch.tv/blu42/b/397845894
Or this one: http://www.twitch.tv/tehmaker/c/2230050
Like this one: http://www.twitch.tv/blu42/b/397845894
Or this one: http://www.twitch.tv/tehmaker/c/2230050
Whats up GW2 GAF? I just started playing again, I'm leveling a new character but I also have my 80 Elementalist as well. I'm playing on Dragonbrand but I know the questing feature will let us play together. If possible I'd love to get into the guild and play with you guys. I've been lurking in this thread for a bit and it sounds like you guys have a blast.
The only issue with spectator mode is that spectators take up slots on servers. So if you have a server set for 10v10, but spectator mode enabled and 4 spectators join it really brings it down to a 8v8 game. You also can't spectator games that are full because of this.
The next thing they need to do is get a full blown unlimited observer mode.
Post your username.#### and someone will get you an invite ASAP.
My username is Resonance.6149. Thanks a ton! Hope to see you guys in game soon. For now, bed time.
I don't want to get into hyperbole here, but has there ever been a game that attempted anything like what Guild Wars 2 is doing? I mean, the idea of having an evolving and non-permanent storyline in a game. It's almost like a TV series. I think if they tighten up the writing a little more, and maybe give us some more to chew on, it would be downright revolutionary in terms of game narrative.
It just seems so radical from anything I've ever thought of having in a game. Sure, execution is wonky sometimes, but the most recent update blew my socks off. It's kind of sad to me that the game doesn't get much mention in most gaming news outlets. I know the game isn't for everyone, but the ideas it has for what you can do with story and content in a persistent world is pretty fascinating.
It just seems so radical from anything I've ever thought of having in a game. Sure, execution is wonky sometimes, but the most recent update blew my socks off. It's kind of sad to me that the game doesn't get much mention in most gaming news outlets. I know the game isn't for everyone, but the ideas it has for what you can do with story and content in a persistent world is pretty fascinating.
Invite has been sent. Check your guild screen and enjoy your stay.
Mr. Luchador
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Matrix Online off the top of my head attempted it 10 years ago. I'm sure there are other examples, but this is the only one I can remember off the top of my head.
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one of many sick screenshots I have taken. Look at what my game can do
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Disheveled_Zen
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A couple games have attempted to do it over the past decade or so. Matrix Online mentioned above and Ultima Online are two that tried. MO died off, and UO was never able to keep up with constant events, and the entire idea died only shortly after it was announced.
I guess you could also consider LOTRO's books as something similar as they tend to release them every few months, but those are hardly dynamic of world changing.
If GW2 can keep this up for the long run I think it will be the first game to do it successfully, especially if they can keep it tied in to the overarching story that is taking place.
Kos Luftar
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From what I heard on mumble last night, this game is about to blow away every other existing MMO when it comes to free content updates.
NinjaJesus
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I just started playing about a month or two ago and I was wondering...is Frost and Flame the first living story they've had? Did I miss any? I think the game was out like 6+ months before I started.
Gotta catch up here but first I must apologize to my missed dungeon run group from last night. Went down for a nap after I took care of some errands after work and didn't wake up til the morning.
Now I'm having fun monitor problems, yay!
In November, there was an invasion of a species called Karka into LA from the area known as Southsun Cove in the Sea of Sorrows. If you look in the southwest of LA, the jagged half-a-lighthouse there is from when the Ancient Karka jumped out of the water and smashed into it. We pushed them back and eventually corned and killed the Ancient Karka guiding all the others on the floor of its nest in the Bakestone Caverns. If you go there now you can still see its petrified corpse. So there were some minor elements of what would become living story incorporated. However, this was just a one-time, open-world event that spanned a weekend, rather than the episodic, slower burn of living story content.
Now I'm having fun monitor problems, yay!
Flame and Frost is the first "actual" Living Story arc. It served as both the first story being told in an ongoing sense in-game as well as a prototype for the living world technology infrastructure they'll be using from here on out.
In November, there was an invasion of a species called Karka into LA from the area known as Southsun Cove in the Sea of Sorrows. If you look in the southwest of LA, the jagged half-a-lighthouse there is from when the Ancient Karka jumped out of the water and smashed into it. We pushed them back and eventually corned and killed the Ancient Karka guiding all the others on the floor of its nest in the Bakestone Caverns. If you go there now you can still see its petrified corpse. So there were some minor elements of what would become living story incorporated. However, this was just a one-time, open-world event that spanned a weekend, rather than the episodic, slower burn of living story content.
Res-rushing has been completely removed from the game mechanically (you simply can't respawn form the nearest waypoint and run back to win through attrition anymore; it's either win a fight or wipe).
However, the encounters themselves are in the early stages of being completely redone, so right now the dungeons as a whole are still hit or miss. I don't know how extensively you played them before, but if you had tried them all you must know (for example) how radically different the HotW fights are versus the ones in CoE.
To see the new design philosophy in action, you'll want to replay AC, which has been completely redone including radically different boss fights, and the new story dungeon that is in the game for the next 10 days. More full dungeon redesigns are coming, as are (one imagines) more temporary dungeon content along with future ongoing story arcs.
That sounds amazing!. Pretty much exactly what might bring me back into this game, and finally get me to get that first char to 80. I mainly play MMO's for dungeons and the social aspect.
Thanks for the answer Hawk
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