As are we all.. I believe Trey's information is incorrect but I cannot personally confirm/deny that, just my assumption
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Guild Wars 2 |OT2| Funding An MMO Entirely On Quaggan Backpacks
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As are we all.. I believe Trey's information is incorrect but I cannot personally confirm/deny that, just my assumption
I read it wrong.
So we get the gold, laurel, karma increase on Tuesday; weapon skins, gold, laurels and gold find wednesday, etc.
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huh, just logged in after some time
That's kinda nice
That's kinda nice
Jest Chillin
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That's what I'm assuming, yes.
Complistic
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I'm not reading a lot about the new patch tomorrow on purpose, but what I've read sounds like A+ ideas.
Mr. Luchador
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That, or, you know, it was well after midnight on a Sunday Night for the majority of players when that was posted, closer to the time folks on the East Coast wake up. But no, it's the "state of the game."
You're keeping tabs on when I'm playing? As the times I've played it's been dead. Calm down, Retro, your customer service badge is showing.
I do have one slight problem with the new achievement setup:
While it makes a TON of practical sense in terms of giving players realistic long term goals and ways to get excellent material, it's absolutely devastating from a lore point of view, because it's completely separate from the world.
Nothing reminds you you're in a game like getting achievements. And at the very least, the Hall of Monuments had a lore angle to it, despite it being much the same concept.
What I would love is for them to roll something similar to the hall of monuments into this, such as having to go to a specific place to get your rewards. Have it be so that you're being rewarded by something race specific, like your Gods or your Asuran academy or something. I dunno, just SOMETHING to make it feel like a part of the world. This way they can also tie it to your introduction when starting a new character, giving new players guidance to the system. like "Go forth and make our race proud by achieving great things!"
I dunno, it's small stuff like that matters in video games.
While it makes a TON of practical sense in terms of giving players realistic long term goals and ways to get excellent material, it's absolutely devastating from a lore point of view, because it's completely separate from the world.
Nothing reminds you you're in a game like getting achievements. And at the very least, the Hall of Monuments had a lore angle to it, despite it being much the same concept.
What I would love is for them to roll something similar to the hall of monuments into this, such as having to go to a specific place to get your rewards. Have it be so that you're being rewarded by something race specific, like your Gods or your Asuran academy or something. I dunno, just SOMETHING to make it feel like a part of the world. This way they can also tie it to your introduction when starting a new character, giving new players guidance to the system. like "Go forth and make our race proud by achieving great things!"
I dunno, it's small stuff like that matters in video games.
Mr. Luchador
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A few from the EU GAF Guild joined 'Stormcallers', which is an active and friendly enough guild. Could always give them a shout if you weren't too interested in transferring.
I'm thinking that's what they're starting towards; you can get something like 10% magic find just getting 5000 points, which seems to be around average for people who've been playing since launch.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start putting in more items that give you a permanent account-wide magic find boost, like the rewards for finishing Flame and Frost (Karma boost) and Aetherblade (+5 Skill Points).
I definitely agree that MF should never have been on gear.
Invite sent, welcome to GAFGuild. You were likely culled at some point since we occasionally have to make room in the guild for more members and that means cleaning out those who haven't been active in a while. It's nothing personal, and anyone dropped is welcome back at any time. Just one of the problems associated with a large guild, that's all.
Semi-off topic: We've invited more new and returning members this last week than we have in a long time, I think maybe even more than when SAB went live. Crazy.
It's not just Tier 1 materials, it's anything that's flooded the market. Silk is Tier 5, but you need 250 of that for a box, compared with 45 linen, 35 cotton etc. I would bet their economist sat down, looked at things that were out of sync in terms of price and adjusted the exchange rate to retool the economy.
As for Dulfy... I like that ArenaNet goes out of their way to keep content under wraps until it becomes available. I like logging in and having a bunch of crazy new things to do, figure out and discuss in Guild Chat. My problem with Dulfy is that doesn't just give a preview like the rest of the press does; she flat out analyzes, documents and breaks content down into a series of tasks to check off.
Using Dulfy to go through content is like playing a game with the Strategy Guide in your lap. And that's just not my idea of fun. You might as well just skip playing the game entirely and just read her guides.
huh, just logged in after some time
That's kinda nice
Yeah, it was a nice surprise to get the Dragon minis for free; hopefully they've got something planned for the anniversary as well. A lot of people will be getting birthday presents on their characters... I will end up waiting several months since I nuked so many characters. I don't think I have *ANY* from launch.
I would love that as well. I get that achievement hunting is simply one gameplay style that some people enjoy and others don't kind (I'm kind of lukewarm on it), but the fact that it's so intrusive and sits there like a checklist of things to do is a major turn off. I don't know how else they could handle it other than an option to hide messages (or at least make them less in-your-face).
Definitely would love to have a physical location to go to instead of a checklist, but then people would probably complain that they have to travel there every time they want to check their progress.
One of the necessary evils of modern day gaming, I suppose.
I agree achievements need to be less gamey. They should treat it as a sort of journal of your character's progress through the world. Write things in first person in there, like they do with the personal story mission summaries (Hero panel > My Story tab).
Throw some lore in there about each entry when you click on each achievement and the entire system gets much more immersive.
Pop ups should then be changed to be written in first person, too.
Rewards should be collected from your home instance, some random lore related NPC in there. Or just through the mail system with a few sentences of story written in. They do a nice job with the LS mail, so they have the idea already.
Throw some lore in there about each entry when you click on each achievement and the entire system gets much more immersive.
Pop ups should then be changed to be written in first person, too.
Rewards should be collected from your home instance, some random lore related NPC in there. Or just through the mail system with a few sentences of story written in. They do a nice job with the LS mail, so they have the idea already.
I actually REALLY like the idea of an in-game journal. Maybe a little tab of paper pops up in the corner and the notice is 'hand written' in?
Also, I still like your idea of the Durmand Priory handling that sort of thing though.
Less achievements requiring such boring grinds. Yeah, it was very optional before but now there is tangible rewards for gritting your teeth and grinding those things out. Squint and they almost look like dreaded green exclamation mark quests.
I'm talking pinata bashing and such.
I'm talking pinata bashing and such.
You can keep the UI for achievements, but tie actually GETTING the rewards to a physical location. Since they did this exact thing for the Hall of Monuments, I'm pretty surprised they didn't think to include this here.
It's sad to me because the concept of tying rewards to a ton of varied achievements that actively incentivise trying out a wide variety of activities is a fantastic idea. It's just incredibly boring and is actually somewhat insulting to all the art they poured into the game's world and story.
Look, I can even come up with the relatively simple ideas for Anet:
Account Based Rewards: Captain's Council Honors - Set up in the brand new Lion's Arch Lighthouse, you are honored for your reputation amongst the Captain's Council, built by accomplishing great feats in exploring Tyria. You are justly rewarded for contributing so much to the world.
And, if you wanted to have character specific achievements, you could tie them to race:
Norn's Skaald: Your acts have gained you a Skaald willing to write an epic song about your life's journey. Every tier of points is a new song, and each new song gives you both honor and rewards in the halls of Hoelbrak.
The Sylvari Dream: Your experiences in Tyria are constantly relaying new information to the Dream, which greatly benefits all Sylvari. As such, the Pale Tree rewards you for your bravery and enthusiasm.
The Blessing of the Human Gods: While the Gods may have gone silent, they've seen it fit to reward you for your valiant efforts to spread their majesty across Tyria.
Ranks of the Charr: Your accomplishments bring fame and glory to your Warband, who honor you with new ranks that come with all types of perks.
Asuran Class Honors: Each tier of achievements publishes a new report to your respective School, who is delighted to brag about your findings to the other schools. Because you've made them look so smart, they reward your intellect and ingenuity.
Boom, there. Do it. At the lowest level of execution, this is one NPC and a few lines of dialogue.
From the official forums (comment posted by Paul Belz):
Hey there Jabberwock!
I’d like to clarify this for you and everyone else: Once you have unlocked the quartz node, it will unlock the node for all your characters, though the node can only be mined once per day per account.
Additionally, the node will appear in all home instances (again it is the same node so only once per day).
This means you can log onto any character you want, go to any home instance you want, and mine your node.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/livingworld/bazaar/Problem-with-Home-Instance-Quartz/first#post2371821
Hey there Jabberwock!
I’d like to clarify this for you and everyone else: Once you have unlocked the quartz node, it will unlock the node for all your characters, though the node can only be mined once per day per account.
Additionally, the node will appear in all home instances (again it is the same node so only once per day).
This means you can log onto any character you want, go to any home instance you want, and mine your node.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/livingworld/bazaar/Problem-with-Home-Instance-Quartz/first#post2371821
thoseAREmySHOES
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Man, I love Dulfy's site. Always on top of every update so quickly.
Great way to do it IMO, very happy about this.
So it's still only once per day per account. You just get to pick which character.
i've been a long-time achievement hater, and have come around somewhat on gw2's "dailies" as a way to give a bit of structure to my ongoing
making optimal rewards require non-fun pursuits is going to incentivize certain people to start having less fun in your game.
Yup, but it'll be nice to park a character there just to mine quartz. Just need to find which home instance is closest to a bank.
I just pretty much ignored that stuff entirely, just smashing things as I ran by or launching fireworks when they popped out of coffers. I never went out of my way to do them; I don't think I have it in me to do so.
Just the overarching concept of incentivizing having less fun in your game is so foreign, bewildering and incompatible with me that I can't even parse it. Granted I gather and wholeheartedly understand I am not one of the "certain people" you have described.
I have noted that I belong to a rather small (or at least traditionally quiet) slice of the gamer community that requires nothing more than an enjoyable experience to fuel my desire to continue play. Having fun is the incentive for me, and all the incentive I need: I'll do the things that are fun for me, and not do the things that are not. All the "stuff you get" is the reward for continued play, and this is just more of that. I can't think of a single problem I have with the system as apparently being delivered. They aren't telling you what to do, they're rewarding you for doing those things. Though again, I fully comprehend that viewing things from this perspective is simply not possible for everyone who picks up GW2.
Pfft. EVERYTHING in Rata Sum is a double-click away from a bank.
Kos Luftar
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Are all quartz recipes unknown right now? Nothing has been shown in previews?
yeah... that's how i'll continue to handle it (i do have a love for making the numbers go up, however
it still annoys me a bit, particularly given how horrid some of the achievements are (i believe you get one for drinking 10,000 alcoholic drinks (srsly??)).re: quartz
i've just read a bit here... this is a new resource that you can only mine in your home instance? ...the place i never go because it's boring and there's nothing to do there? they're adding a node i can click "f" on and watch a mining animation? this is going to incentivize me to visit?? (i hope i'm missing something here...)
Kos Luftar
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Seems like everyone has air ships in Tyria. Why can't we use them to go to Cantha?
Mr_Antimatter
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I'd say you wouldn't even have to add anything to the game world to make them work hall of monuments style. You have a home instance that would work well, it's just not really being used much.
shysaursoft
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It's a start, I believe. Future plans may include customization of the home instance, or it changing based on your achievements.
I'm with you brother.
Mr_Antimatter
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There is an angry dragon between them and it, in the form of old Z. I take it he doesn't like many people flying over his area, given you can see him fighting stuff above orr.
I imagine most of their airfleet is focused on Orr and the attack there.
I missed this but bwahhhhh?! Plains of Ashford is, so far as I know, completely lacking any bonus chest events (uniquely among the starters). Which sucks, too, cause it's a great zone, full of history.
I don't think it's meant as an incentive, more likely it's the one place that's instanced in the game that players have unrestricted access to on just about any character. I'm hoping this is the start of them paying more attention to that part of the game, but I have a sneaking suspicion they won't.
Invite sent, welcome to GAFGuild. Remember to represent.
Mr_Antimatter
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If it sticks around after the event, it's also one heck of an incentive for crafters to get one. The nodes spawn in the new zone as well, but without your personal one, you'd be forced to buy any off the TP once the event ends. That could drive up the cost of future gear of this type.
yeah... that's how i'll continue to handle it (i do have a love for making the numbers go up, however
re: quartz
i've just read a bit here... this is a new resource that you can only mine in your home instance? ...the place i never go because it's boring and there's nothing to do there? they're adding a node i can click "f" on and watch a mining animation? this is going to incentivize me to visit?? (i hope i'm missing something here...)
Yes and no. During the month of July you'll be able to obtain Quartz through many different avenues including the node in your instance. Once the first August patch comes out you will only be able to get Quartz from that instance node. The reason they're putting it in there is so that when the other ways to obtain Quartz are gone, you can still obtain it without having to pay a ton of money on the TP to get the new stat type.
Kos Luftar
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Zhaitan got taken care of many a month ago.
Looks like ill have 12 days of achievement rewards to collect.
This guy.... this guy gets it.
3am-4am tonight, or after the patch? My brother's been trying to get the Aetherblade Cache for a while and since he works nights he almost always runs into SoS squatting in there. If you'll be on around that time, I'll let him know to try again tonight.
3am-4am tonight, or after the patch? My brother's been trying to get the Aetherblade Cache for a while and since he works nights he almost always runs into SoS squatting in there. If you'll be on around that time, I'll let him know to try again tonight.
irfaanator
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So are the acheivement chests like the wvw chests? Do I have to get more acheivements to unlock chests that I already earned?
edit: those zenith weapons look ballin
edit: those zenith weapons look ballin
They're retroactive so you'll get credit for your current points and then more going forward.
Welcome!
Black-Wind
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Anyone know what the recipe from this event gives you?
Supposed to be an "All Stats" distribution called Celestial, similar to what is found on some Ascended items.
Gintoki313
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I've been playing this game for the longest but never got into the GAF guild, and din't even know their was one until now. Are the officers in the OP still available to take whispers for an invite?
Black-Wind
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Ok, so I guess we're gonna find out hard numbers when it's released cause I can't find anything saying the exact numbers.
Send me a tell, my name is Gojira. Unless you've already been invited of course.
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