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Yep. Aside from heavy slash which is played for laughs her body no longer morphs into monstrous appendages or uses blood in her attacks. I guess she's more mature and in control of her powers now but still, kinda disappointing.
So what ?
They still have to edit every single frame to make sure the shadows are fine on a new model. It's not as easy as swapping models.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
I think that's just a change in art direction, rather than being a characterization point. Everything across the board is much more pretty and clean and less gritty and gruesome than in XX.
It also could just be a limitation in what they can do in 3D. I imagine t's much easier to draw detailed, asymmetric fleshy growth in 2D than it is to render in 3D. and blood as an effect has been completely eliminated.
Er no... This has virtually nothing to do with 3D limitations. Neither the blood or body horror. They keep changing the models mid animation to provide 2D looks, that wouldn't be any different.
It has to do with 3D limitation in that they have to make more new models for those morphing animations, which isn't exactly cheap. Dizzy, as is, already look like she has two regular characters worth of effort put into her.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
If you say so.
It's just a guess on my part based on what I read in that panel where they talk in detail about their work in Xrd. They stated that some things are much harder to depict in 3D than with 2D sprites and I just imagined some of Dizzy's old normals fell into that category.
As inefficient as it is, somethings are just easier to draw by hand.
They already have a shit ton of morphing animations for the current Dizzy. Nothing about her is cheap or lazy. Zato is also relying on morphs on 90% of his moveset. I don't see why that would stop Arcsys from doing body horror if they wanted to. She does have body transformations in her current moveset, just not "horror". Has nothing to do with 3D limitations.
They tried as hard as they could to make her great, and as you said, it looks like she got twice the amount of work to be done right. It's an artistic choice more than it has to do with limitations.
The point wasn't that it was hard, the point was that they found the solution.
They designed a workflow that allows them to create what they want rather quickly now, it took them years to achieve but now that they're used to it, it's fine.
They have several characters that use that kind of effect, there is no reason why Dizzy wouldn't use it because of "limitations". As I stated above, she does have transformations in the current movesets, just not on the body horror side, and that's because they toned down this kind of graphic style.
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And to close the debate, she still has some body horror. And the non horror transformation don't require any less work than an "horror" version of it.
sixteen-bit
Member
Guilty Gear games stopped having blood around Accent Core.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Think it's likely I can still find first print Revelator on store shelves here in Japan?
It's too expensive on the Canadian PSN and the physical Japanese game is cheaper for me, but I got the NA dlc free (only dizzy free for JP dlc).
I wanted it on my hdd but money talks.
Anyone buy the physical Japanese game confirm what I should be looking for to check for the Kum and Raven codes?
It's too expensive on the Canadian PSN and the physical Japanese game is cheaper for me, but I got the NA dlc free (only dizzy free for JP dlc).
I wanted it on my hdd but money talks.
Anyone buy the physical Japanese game confirm what I should be looking for to check for the Kum and Raven codes?
Post Ky's wife combo please
Maybe. My copy has a sticker at the top left corner
Thanks! I'll look for that today.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Does Dizzy have an anti-air?
Tried 2HS against Raven's airdash but it's way too slow to catch it before it hits you.
Tried 2HS against Raven's airdash but it's way too slow to catch it before it hits you.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I guess I'll try those then.
Also sucks to get caught in that Raven guessing game where you wake up into that multi hit orb and he jumps and goes high/low/grab.
Many perfects were suffered at the hands of this.
I think the worst part of SFV is the complete and total absence of social aspect.
In Xrd, it's so easy to meet people, find people at your level and what not.
SFV's online is the worst. Which is cool cause, you know, they bet everything on online -_- .
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I really like the instant rematch option.
It's what BB and previous the GG was missing.
It's what BB and previous the GG was missing.
Or KoF14. Too used to air movement and KoF is so ground dashing based.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It had it
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Glad more people are joining the xrd family 
Yeah. Not to dump on the game too much. It's just a really frustrating experience overall. Thankfully I can and do normally just say fuck it and go back to Revelator after twenty minutes.
I'll wait and see how KoF pans out. I don't think I have the confidence to just buy a fighting game and hope all the moving parts work as they should anymore.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I was sure it wasn't there when I played SIGN, but apparently it's in the same spot as I found it in REVELATOR.
I guess I missed it somehow.
Now they just need to add it to BBCF.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Honestly, as much as Xrd is more fun so far after all I found SFV's lack of social interaction kind of a blessing. Nobody in SFV told me I shouldn't be in an EU West room because of the brexit, it's easier to just play just with a press of a button and nobody angrily accused me of making alt accounts and trying to destroy new players after a match they won cleanly.
...Okay the first one was kind of funny.
...Okay the first one was kind of funny.
Social interactions bring both the good and the bad. But on balance I personally vastly prefer the online system in Xrd vs SFV.
Jimnymebob
Member
What's changed with Jam in the latest patch?
All I've done since the patch is go through most of Dizzy's trials (who I'm really enjoying using on this compared to the previous games for some reason).
Shadow_Lord
Member
Can anyone help me out and tell me what is the name of this song?
https://youtu.be/yte_h90AlA8?t=34
https://youtu.be/yte_h90AlA8?t=34
Can't keep a good Johnny down.
*edit* 'I'm just gonna play a couple matches before bed' *looks at the clock 5 hours later. Man its been a loooong time since a game had me in a vortex this strong.
*edit* 'I'm just gonna play a couple matches before bed' *looks at the clock 5 hours later. Man its been a loooong time since a game had me in a vortex this strong.
No, they don't edit the shadows per-frame for alternate models, just paint the general case shadow on the mesh data. Their shadow process doesn't require checking each frame, because it's like baked in ambient occlusion it's reasonably straightforward to come up with something that you know will look good in general.
Codiox
Gold Member
can you give me some bnb's and standard combos / strategys for jam? im just starting to play guilty gear and loving jam, but i dont know what to do with her in online play.
Karsticles
Member
ShinMaruku has let me down for the last time.Yup, you're one week late!
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Finished the Revelator "Anime", man that was one hell of a ride from start to finish.
(Did it really never occurred to Ky that Sol would be his Father-in-law up till now ^^
Unless some other shit happens it looks like to me that they're wrapping everything up story wise by the next installment?
(Did it really never occurred to Ky that Sol would be his Father-in-law up till now ^^
Unless some other shit happens it looks like to me that they're wrapping everything up story wise by the next installment?
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Judging from his twitter Marlinpie almost missed the boat after a week of hyping her up.
OrochiJR
Member
Does she stay free if you did download her? Or do we have to pay if we want to continue using her?
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Free forever.