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Half of Assassins Creed Shadows Devs have never built a game before
IllegalLemon
Member
That explains why the game looks as bland and uninspired as you can get. Woke-ified garbage made by DEI hires desperate for those ESG brownie points.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
This really aint a bad thing. Its not them ruining the game anyway aside from maybe performance issues. The management and directors are to blame as well as the ceo for the poor choice in protagonist and writting.
SJRB
Gold Member
These games are made by thousands of people, if half of them have zero experience that’s a quality control nightmare.
I don’t even know how you train, coach and manage such a huge inexperienced workforce. Insane situation for such a massive and experienced studio.
GymWolf
Member
The wolf look cool, konda looks like okami protagonist...Here is the Barbie costume our modern interns brainstormed for Yasuke, hope you like it.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Nah, its standard. Great games have been made by inexperienced devs led by experienced people. Theres not an unlimited amount of experienced developers out there and its a shitty thing to blame them. If they make mistakes they learn from mistakes and become better. People arent born experenced. You could argue that a high profile franchise would require experience but eh.
Lorianus
Member
That got to be true for nearly all studios or not, project nears completion -> lay off half the workers because they now have experience and are too expensive -> next project, hire fresh blood on the downlow for cheap -> repeat, just like all big corpo's around the world.
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nowhat
Member
I'm sure many of them have worked at McDonald's or such during studies.
GymWolf
Member
It's gonna do fine most probably, valhalla was a trash ass game (that looked worse than shadows from the trailers) and sold more than any other ac game in history, ac japan with ninja and samurai has been asked by the fans since forever, the yousucke stuff is not gonna be enough to keep people away.
Little Chicken
Banned
Strange to put so many graduates on such a high profile release.
Laptop1991
Member
Yeah, it looks like it from what we have seen so far, it's sadly become normal practice in the games industry, which is why the games are not as good or selling as they were in the past!.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Jack Videogames
Member
Wait, are you telling me half of them HAVE worked in a game already before!?
(i'm sorry if this joke has already been made, I'm at work and I can't read two full pages)
(i'm sorry if this joke has already been made, I'm at work and I can't read two full pages)
Valedix
Member
Don't you mean AAAA?
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DavidGzz
Gold Member
Doesn't mean shit. I bet 50+ percent of devs at Grinding Gears Games has never worked on a finished game. Seeing how it's been in development for at least 6 years and their team has gotten a lot larger than their early days, those noobs still have some experience and it's not like the vets who worked on PoE 1 aren't highly capable. How many college graduates under 30 have made and finished a game these days? They take so long to make, I'd bet maybe half of them. People just want to freak out about everything these days. I don't know how some would manage going a day without some triggering headline where people can be negative all over again.
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That's mostly due to bad game directors not just developers. They have so many teams split up that none of it is actualy put together into one cohesive good to play from start to finsih game
DavidGzz
Gold Member
Party McHardy
Member
Kids are generally quicker on the tools. As long as the actual direction is from adults, I don’t see a problem.
Hugare
Member
Well, 'cause it is.
They are probably making DLC with fantasy stuff like they did in Origins and Valhalla
Amaterasu is part of japanese folklore
I disagree with her looking cool, tho
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Dr.Morris79
Member
Imagine getting a bunch of builders round and half of them walk in holding power tools turn round and say 'Cor, never done this before, but I'm eager. I'm he/him by the way. Oh by the way, we've decided your kitchen should look like this, and we'll be painting it purple'
'Money please'
'Money please'
Toots
Gold Member
I've seen furry themed deviant art pages with better drawings than this.There are more
The last one is especially ugly with its dragon-horse-goat abomination
King Dazzar
Member
I hope they're already looking. A month after it drops here come the layoffs.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
MMaRsu
Member
Casuals eat this up and dont know what the fuck monster hunter is bro
GymWolf
Member
Mh is now pretty mainstream after world, wilds is gonna sell gangbusters.
MMaRsu
Member
It absolutely is not 'main stream'.
Its a lot more known now that its not only on Nintendo systems. But.
Ask someone on the street and I guarantee you nobody will know what the fuck 'Monster Hunter' is.
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GymWolf
Member
World+iceborne sold almost double as ac valhalla.
It's not gta\mario level of mainstream but it's not a niche brand anymore, exactly like souls games are not niche anymore.
Shadows is not gonna ruin the party for wilds, probably the opposite but they are both gonna sell well.
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ozz ex machina
Member
You live in an online echo chamber, which is fine. But trust me, your normal casual gamer who plays AC, Fifa, Cod, GTA etc is NOT interested in monster hunter.
GymWolf
Member
The casual who only play fifa and cod don't buy assassins creed neither dude.
Of course i'm still talking about hardcores or close to that, capcom doesn't need to sell 50 mil copies to be successful, if they make world nu,bers they are gonna dance the samba naked on the streets
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MMaRsu
Member
It might have sold more I guess, but it's def not in the main stream eye.
Like Ozz Ex Machina says, people who play AC/Fifa/GTA/COD don't even know what the fuck a monster hunter game is.
GymWolf
Member
And like i said, people who only play super mainstream games like cod, gta and fifa also don't know what the fuck assassins creed is.
Both brands have one shitty movie and they sell similar numbers now.
Mayne it's not super mainstream, but it is as mainstream as assassins creed, numbers speak louder than words.
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ozz ex machina
Member
The casual who only play fifa and cod don't buy assassins creed neither dude.
Of course i'm still talking about hardcores or close to that, capcom doesn't need to sell 50 mil copies to be successful, if they make world nu,bers they are gonna dance the samba naked on the streets
My IRL friends all used to play AC and still have nostalgia for it. It's definitely an IP with a huge mainstream recognition. Not sure what planet you live on.
GymWolf
Member
The planet when the last mainstream mh sold almost double as the last mainstream ac. (20.8 vs 12+)
The super casual friends i have that only play fifa or cod could not give less fucks about both mh and ac.
Maybe italy is different than us, ac was more famous during the ezio trilogy for obvious reasons.
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MMaRsu
Member
Sorry but thats nonsense. Casuals absolutely know what Assassins Creed is.
Its a way bigger name in gaming than Monster Hunter (which also has a very generic name).
Ofcourse in recent years that has waned, as the quality of the AC games has gone down.
Just because MH sold more does not make it more mainstream.
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Hypereides
Member
Nothing shocking about this tidbit, honestly. Its been a longstanding problem and consequence of the development culture/environment the larger AAA segment has fostered. Talent retention hasn't been valued and every creator has been seen as dispensable/replaceable. People come and go fast. Its a revolving door culture.
If you ever wonder why some legacy studios are "acting up" now (being so inconsistent in their work/output now), maybe this is "why".
If you ever wonder why some legacy studios are "acting up" now (being so inconsistent in their work/output now), maybe this is "why".
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GymWolf
Member
Even if it is like you said and ac has more name value, the original point was that mh was about to suffer because casuals play ac but not mh, but since last mh sold sensibly more than the last ac, i don't think capcom give more than 2 fucks if casuals don't buy their game, one thing is for sure, mh is not gonna suffer because ac is released in the same month, right now with all the bad publicity that shadow is getting, it's probably the opposite.
MMaRsu
Member
Well AC is certainly not suffering from MH, and MH won't suffer from AC.
I believe those two genre's/games have very little overlap.
However, Avowed will fall in between the gap of both games, and Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 will also be out.
So my bet is Avowed will sell like shit.
GymWolf
Member
I think that kc 2 is also gonna lose some copies between shadow and wilds.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Yes it is
For a singleplayer beta, to reach half a million peak players, when not even triple A games can reach that, its fucking main-stream.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Monster hunter is not really mainstream, it gained popularity because of world leaving behind exclusive systems, but AC has been featured in museums because of origin's discovery tour, has been in actual mainstream news because of how Unity help restore the notre dame after the fire and it was part of the paris olympics opening ceremony.
cash_longfellow
Member
That might actually be a good thing to be honest. A lot of people who do have experience these days, are terrible at it.
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