Thanks. I guess it's a couple games of SWAT for me.
I bought the LE. Which specialization should I go for? Do I need to wear the armor?
I looked them up, and yeah, I may go for the Rogue or Pioneer.
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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
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Thanks. I guess it's a couple games of SWAT for me.
I bought the LE. Which specialization should I go for? Do I need to wear the armor?
I looked them up, and yeah, I may go for the Rogue or Pioneer.
You don't need to, no.
Come to think of it I've done several levels (such as the 3rd one I think, "Forerunner") with skulls such as Mythic or Tilt to get the challenges, and I think those add some extra resistance to enemies. Also on that level you don't really have a huge supply of ammo or power weapons.
I think you kinda prove by doing that breakdown just how tedious they are to fight. That's A LOT of shots even if you hit every single bullet. Add into that how Watchers fly off out of sight as soon as they take 2 or 3 hits, and if you're up against 2+ watchers they can alternate so you shoot one, almost take it down but it gets away, shoot another one, almost take it down, the previous one comes back with what I'm guessing is a recharged shield, rinse and repeat.
Prom knights also have a tendency to flee when they start getting low on health, or do that teleporting thing, which seems to allow them time to restore some of their shields.
WHaaaa? I only use Shielding. Tried some loadouts without it and felt crippled and kept dying because my shield didn't recharge in time between encounters. In previous Halos it might not have been so useful, but 4 is so hectic and with no respawn time literally means that you can kill a guy and he can respawn and kill you before your shield has charged back up. The shielding perk saves my ass multiple times every match, and allows me to get back into the action just a little faster, which can be a difference maker.
squidhands
Member
I would have gone for Rogue from the start if I had access to it. From what I hear, flinch is completely taken away once you get the ability to use it (which comes after you 'master' the Specialization, aka go through all 10 levels).
I can't tell, but are you upset that the enemies are attempting self-preservation?
Do you want them to roar and charge you when you take their shields down, like brutes? Because I'd rather them not.
I didn't really have much trouble solo-legendary.
AHappyPanda
Member
I agree it's a bit tedious, IMO 343 should've made it so you'd be able to take down a Knight if you land every single shot with the LR scoped-in in a single clip, even on Legendary, given their dodging/teleportation.
As for the Watchers, I forced myself to only shoot ones I know I could kill without them flying away. I'd take a look at what cover they're close to, if any, and judge if I should engage them now or later when I have a better angle and I know they can't fly behind some piece of cover.
Thankfully the game gets pretty good about giving you a constant stream of ammo after Mission 3.
I kinda think the AI is a little too self-preservative, and it's too predictable especially the way watchers instantly turn and flee as soon as they come under fire.
I haven't had much 'trouble' solo on legendary either, only done the first 3 levels though but each with one of Mythic/Thunderstorm/Tilt activated and even then it's not been very difficult. Just tedious.
You turn on 3 things to massively increase enemy health, and then you complain about the game being tedious.
/mindblown
Lol I've played co-op on standard legendary and still thought the Prometheans were boring to fight.
WickedLaharl
Member
Any particular reason as to why sarah palmer is so fucking mean? I really hate her and hope she gets killed off.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Fuck the Motion Sensor. Fuck that broken POS. Jesus Christ, you should only show up when you fire a weapon ala EVERY OTHER SHOOTER WITH COMMON FUCKING SENSE. Goddamn, 343.
AHappyPanda
Member
The overall writing in Spartan-Ops is pretty terrible IMO. Damn those those science types and eggheads.
They wrote her to be some caricature of the strong, no BS, military woman, and they've succeeded far too well.
squidhands
Member
Her family was killed by eggheads who were also hingeheads, all with the last name Miller.
Plus, red (Crimson) is an angry color.
Not only is this great, it actually gives her more backstory and motivation than the game itself does.
Can't have a team if it's only you.
So just about everyone is bitching that 343 changed too much, and now you want them to change the motion tracker into a COD radar? Change something that has basically been the same since Halo CE?
I mean, it could work for some gametypes I guess; maybe more for some of the no-radar playlists rather than everywhere. Your teammates could show up all the time, but enemies only when they shoot.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
MOTION SENSOR.
Also Halo's motion sensor has been around longer than those other games you're referencing.
Yeah but since I had to give up my ammo perk for it , I now constantly run out of ammo.
The Lamonster
Member
Arbiter levels
Space atmosphere levels (dat sfx)
Brutes!
David Cross
Jackals in the courtyard.
Yep. Jennifer Hale for life.
Squall ASF
Member
So to clarify, the specializations don't unlock more tactical or support perks, correct? They each have one passive perk you get when you master the specialization? So if you mastered all of them, you can have all 7 activated at once?
The Lamonster
Member
Nope they are tactical and support perks gained when you complete the spec so you'll have to replace dat mobility/dexterity
Sir Garbageman
Member
Crouch...?
squidhands
Member
Squall ASF
Member
Nope they are tactical and support perks gained when you complete the spec so you'll have to replace dat mobility/dexterity
Nooooo Dexterity 4 LYFE! I'm not married to Fire Power if there's something better, though. Do you get both a tactical and support per specialization? or just one of the two?
dehydratedbabies
Member
Thanks, I just posted my info there. That thread currently has over 1,000 replies. Wow.
It's pretty fucking annoying that I'm not going to get the monthly challenge now.
AHappyPanda
Member
Motion Sensor is the default in every Halo game...wat?
The Lamonster
Member
One of the two depending on the spec.
Synth_floyd
Banned
All the levels are designed with it being a MOTION sensor and not a shot sensor or whatever. The reason it works in CoD is because the levels in that game are smaller and it's almost always 1 shot kills. Even though Halo is becoming more like CoD they're not at 1 shot kills yet and the levels are too big for it to be anything other than a motion sensor.
Squall ASF
Member
Good to know, thanks!
dehydratedbabies
Member
Do you think they'll do anything to compensate us? Ha ha just kidding.
squidhands
Member
You're stuck in the back-up servers, which people have been lamenting on this very page.
RedAssedApe
Banned
egghead egghead egghead...
haha everytime i hear that i think of dark souls
haha everytime i hear that i think of dark souls
Blue Ninja
Member
Heck, it's even called a motion sensor. It senses motion.
Mr. B Natural
Member
Okay, so after giving black ops 2 the boot, I've come back to the mp of this game and the following things prevent it from being great:
1. BoltShot: Dumb. Very Dumb. I've been outranged by a shotgun.
2. Lag: These type of games REQUIRE dedicated servers. I feel when I'm host, the auto-aim kicks up a notch and I can't miss, but when I have even a 200 ms ping, the opposite happens. It's not "unplayable laggy" most of the time, but it completely demolishes any sense of high level play, where, for instance, getting that first shot off should be the difference between winning and losing.
3. Autoaim: like I mentioned before appears extremely sporadic. It's probably lag, but it could be something else. Some games my aim locks on the enemy and he can jump and I'll still get the head shot without having to aim much, but other times, if the enemy is wobbling back and forth, the autoaim appears to just give up. Honestly, I'd prefer they get rid of it all together. If I miss, I miss. If he jumps, I shouldn't get the headshot just by flinging my aim in the air. Maybe then Swat would be somewhat interesting. Along with the autoaim, flinching appears just as sporadic. Sometimes my aim veers way up, other times it doesn't budge. If it doesn't budge, I know I must have some magic power the enemy doesn't and 90% of the time, I win the fight.
4. Not nearly enough maps, at all. If you're gonna split your map count in half for every gametype, then you need to double the map count to compensate. And, honestly, the best maps are symmetrical. I really feel like they put half the effort into the symmetrical maps yet got twice the results.
5. The radar really does ruin the game in many ways. It promotes camping when it should be doing the opposite. And it's range and perfect 30fps accuracy means there is no excitement and the aggressor is going to get a grenade in the face if he decides to turn that corner and come at me. At the very least, the radar's range should be halved or make it so it does not tell my what level the enemy is at, so I can be somewhat unsure of myself, rather than literally stare at the radar the entire time and know everything that I need to know every second of this game.
1. BoltShot: Dumb. Very Dumb. I've been outranged by a shotgun.
2. Lag: These type of games REQUIRE dedicated servers. I feel when I'm host, the auto-aim kicks up a notch and I can't miss, but when I have even a 200 ms ping, the opposite happens. It's not "unplayable laggy" most of the time, but it completely demolishes any sense of high level play, where, for instance, getting that first shot off should be the difference between winning and losing.
3. Autoaim: like I mentioned before appears extremely sporadic. It's probably lag, but it could be something else. Some games my aim locks on the enemy and he can jump and I'll still get the head shot without having to aim much, but other times, if the enemy is wobbling back and forth, the autoaim appears to just give up. Honestly, I'd prefer they get rid of it all together. If I miss, I miss. If he jumps, I shouldn't get the headshot just by flinging my aim in the air. Maybe then Swat would be somewhat interesting. Along with the autoaim, flinching appears just as sporadic. Sometimes my aim veers way up, other times it doesn't budge. If it doesn't budge, I know I must have some magic power the enemy doesn't and 90% of the time, I win the fight.
4. Not nearly enough maps, at all. If you're gonna split your map count in half for every gametype, then you need to double the map count to compensate. And, honestly, the best maps are symmetrical. I really feel like they put half the effort into the symmetrical maps yet got twice the results.
5. The radar really does ruin the game in many ways. It promotes camping when it should be doing the opposite. And it's range and perfect 30fps accuracy means there is no excitement and the aggressor is going to get a grenade in the face if he decides to turn that corner and come at me. At the very least, the radar's range should be halved or make it so it does not tell my what level the enemy is at, so I can be somewhat unsure of myself, rather than literally stare at the radar the entire time and know everything that I need to know every second of this game.
The Lamonster
Member
How can you tell when you're host?
There are three DLC maps coming in two weeks and three existing Forge maps that haven't been implemented into matchmaking yet. Even so - the H4 maps are way better than the Reach maps and even better than H3 maps as well. This is of course just my opinion and having purchased the limited edition I've already paid for the DLC maps while you may have not.
Radar isn't generally good in Slayer, and it's especially worse in this case because of all the ordnance drops, specific AA's like Camo, and having a Mauler as a secondary weapon. I don't typically mind it in Team Skirmish/Objective games, though, but who cares about that now in Halo 4 with its strategy thrown out the window.
Crazyorloco
Member
Motion sensor/radar is fine to me. When I see a red dot I'm more cautious. And I go to the dot, usually the person goes to me too. We're moving, not camping. If I see the dot disappear, I know they're standing.
Set stationary weapons promote camping more in my opinion. I remember the days of people waiting for swords/rockets to appear and then hiding in a spot to wait for a kill for the entire game. I think camping is less prevalent in Halo 4. I don't see people holding areas down for the entire game session. People stay in areas for less tine.