xxjuicesxx
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Can someone post some good matches from Halo 4? Is that even a thing? Has there's been an intense or good match in 4?
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Halo 4 |OT2| TURBO
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The Real Napsta
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So who is doing the NeoGAF community montage for halo 4?
User 73706
Banned
I heard the last match of the global tournament was tense, but I was working a double shift at the time so I didn't end up watching any of it.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
I'm with you man, I love Ricochet. I totally forget about everything chasing that figgin ball. It plays awesome on Haven but I still hate Abandon and Adrift.
Quality post.
I like Ricochet. Most fun I've had on Halo 4, at least until the BoltShot started rearing its ugly head.
Quoting this so everyone knows you're on ricochet later
xxjuicesxx
Member
Ricochet is just another gimmick. It has no real place in real Halo.
A gimmick with new medals and sounds, that was behind a timed paywall?
Nah, it has its place just like how Infection or Grifball has their own places.
Garrett 2U
Member
I think it's actually pretty fun
Infection and Griffball have no place in Halo either.
HiredN00bs
Member
Ricochet is fun. It's like golden-square Grifball (e.g. you still use guns, grenades, melees, and armor abilities to advance the objective). It feels like it was built around The Pit, too, which works out.
It's basically instant-arm assault where you can throw the ball in for a smaller amount of points (less than half) and where throws can be intercepted. Saying it has no place in Halo is like saying Assault and Flag have no place in Halo. It's a thoughtfully, well-designed objective game.
It's basically instant-arm assault where you can throw the ball in for a smaller amount of points (less than half) and where throws can be intercepted. Saying it has no place in Halo is like saying Assault and Flag have no place in Halo. It's a thoughtfully, well-designed objective game.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Hey, any Gaffers know an easy way to get screen grabs of your Forge Maps without a cap card?
HiredN00bs
Member
I think there's an application for PC that grabs screenshots from a Halo 4 saved film.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
Halo can only be 4v4 MLG settings on Midship right?
Now I know why HaloGAF hasn't been the same.
Besides taking pictures in Theater and sending them to your Halo 4 file share?
(Also, 343 doesn't seem to compress the JPEGs as much as Bungie did, which is nice. Still shows seams if you attempt to color-correct the shots though.)
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Disagree. I agree with a lot of what you say usually but this gametype is actually fun.
HiredN00bs
Member
I feel the same way, but usually Juices' opinions come from experience. I don't think he's actually played Ricochet, and I wouldn't blame him because it demands a tolerance of Halo 4's base gameplay.
Poker Face
Member
Pretty much the only reason i haven't tried it. Maybe I'll play when they make the BRs only Richochet.
Is that why Infection charting over everything but Ricochet, Infinity Slayer, BTB, and SWAT. Halo (Team Throwdown) has less population than "something that has no place in Halo".
While they aren't "pure" competitive gametypes, (I don't like Flood/Infection), Grifball and Ricochet are pretty fun and can be very competitive. Grifball (and Infection/Flood) are community made too, so you're basically claiming that community made content have no place in Halo?
Yeah, that's what I was going for. I miss Fat Kid days from Halo 3
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
What experience? We've all seen juices make many statements like that before, yet you guys keep "defending" him. He started with Halo 3, hates vehicles, loves Reach, hates FUN..
Hire zoojoo.
Halo is all about this type of creativity and community involvement with various forms of gameplay/modes/etc.
Is that why Infection charting over everything but Ricochet, Infinity Slayer, BTB, and SWAT. Halo (Team Throwdown) has less population than "something that has no place in Halo".
While they aren't "pure" competitive gametypes, (I don't like Flood/Infection), Grifball and Ricochet are pretty fun and can be very competitive. Grifball (and Infection/Flood) are community made too, so you're basically claiming that community made content have no place in Halo?
Yeah, that's what I was going for. I miss Fat Kid days from Halo 3
That wasn't a shot at the community.
Both the developers and the community have produced some shitty gametypes that have no place in Halo. SWAT, Griffball, Infection, Infinity Slayer, and Regicide are some examples. Play it in customs if you want, but they're moronic gametypes that shouldn't be so pervasive in competitive matchmaking.
User 73706
Banned
Are there any Legendary Ricochet variants out yet or anything?
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
I was just thinking that it would be awesome as a stripped down "pro" game type.
I think ghostayame is testing out Richochet for v5.
That's an easy fix. Change from personal loadouts to game loadouts. Then just make one game loadout with Legendary settings
FUNKNOWN iXi
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aHebrewMenagerie
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User 73706
Banned
What about the modified weapon settings for Turbo, though? Did those come pre-baked into Ricochet?
Of course. Its a gametype released in the turbo era.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I understand its fun, but the bar has been set so low in Halo 4. Its an optical illusion that its actually a good gametype.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Maybe, but what is the alternative? There will not be another Halo for at least a year. If there is something that is at least tolerable you might as well try it. I hate CoD and that is all you have until next year. Destiny is not going to be Halo, it's going to be Borderlands.
Maybe I am mistaken but when they first launched the Champions Bundle wasn't there a pro version of Ricochet? I could swear there was.
I can agree with this. I still think they should be there, but certainly not the focus of the MP. If we had a custom games browser then it'd be fine to not have those playlists and leave them to customs, but as we don't I enjoyed getting matched up with other people in matchmaking for them.
User 73706
Banned
Conor alt confirmed?
I don't see a custom browser happening considering 25K is barely enough to fill up the 28 playlists we currently have.
xxjuicesxx
Member
The alternative is to play the hundreds of other good games out there.
I've been grinding Dark Souls all week. Games ridiculous.
Or write up huge theses on this game but just dont play it. Act with your controller and console and dont give them that daily tally they need to stay on the Live charts. Speak out vocally here, and anywhere else. Spread the word. The population is honestly bad to the point where a good amount of social networking could negatively impact the population to the point 343 would HAVE to change their game. Actual change could happen if everyone would just domino effect.
Ahh whatever none of you fuckers are going to listen to me.
Enjoy your shit Halo.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
After watching the latest ViDoc, I'm thinking the multiplayer is going to be more similar to Shadowrun than anything else.
HiredN00bs
Member
Actually, it's fun despite Halo 4's sandbox.
Let's look at the pros and cons:
con: player-created loadouts - basically means you're playing in the whole perk and AA sandbox where player traits are anybody's guess, and kids can spawn with pocket shotguns
pro: no personal ordnance (effectively killing the related perks) and static, power weapon spawns (more like traditional Halo)
con: waypoint over the objective carrier makes for an easy target and eliminates stealth
pro: throwing allows for passing which is a huge increase in objective mobility that requires teamwork and even provides for stealth (say throwing the ball to the opponent side where a sneaky player makes the catch or grab)
con: just throw the ball into the pit! too easy!
pro: shots are worth 40% of walk-ins, and the ball has a huge area in which in can be intercepted, which means a competent goalkeeper can stop everything and must be fragged
It's much more of a Halo game than Infection or Grifball because encounters are still default ball/bomb Halo (albeit Halo 4).
xxjuicesxx
Member
Thats a weird way to put it HiredNoobs.
Basically by doing the "Saving Halo" that you guys are doing, you're destroying Halo.
Basically by doing the "Saving Halo" that you guys are doing, you're destroying Halo.
Trust me, I don't either; but it's still something worth mentioning/hoping for.
I think the waypoint over the ball carriers head is important to have because of where you can throw the ball from to score on most maps. Also, without it, it might create severe defensive base turtling. Just because the threat of a toss in could come from anywhere. As it is now, its a super fast gametype which I think is part of its appeal. There's a better variant out there to be created though, that's for sure.
At the very least I'd love the option to remove the waypoint, even if it just to test if the waypoint is or isn't better for competitive play.
Oh definitely.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Eh, I disagree. Ricochet is a genuinely fun gametype that actually inspires good healthy teamplay. It could definitely use a Pro version without AA's (or forcing everyone to have Thruster Pack IMO), but it actually plays well and feels new at the same time. Its faster paced than classic Halo gametypes, but it promotes strategical team play and brings out the best on well made symmetrical maps.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Riiiicochet is pretty fun as-is, but a fixed-loadout version would be amazing. It would also be nice if they put some forge pieces in on some maps where it's just too easy to throw.
User 73706
Banned
I think I'm going to sit down this week and try and figure out some insane Lightning Ricochet sort of variant.
...and maybe repurpose Synthesis and one of my other super duper mystery maps to work with it while I'm at it.
...and maybe repurpose Synthesis and one of my other super duper mystery maps to work with it while I'm at it.
HiredN00bs
Member
I'm not really interested in saving Halo at this point, because I'm getting the PlayStation 4 and specifically not getting the Xbox One. Microsoft needs to be humbled as a whole, not just 343 Industries.
I'm not even really interested in promoting the new Halo 4 DLC, just in being fair in my assessment of it. Ricochet is fun and well-designed. Is it worth paying money for? I would say yes if you tolerate Halo 4, no if not.
Matchmaking is supposed to be limiting - there's far too much bullshit to sort through otherwise. They gave players a way to share their shitty custom gametypes and maps via fileshares and web integration. That's enough. When they beg for a playlist, tell them no and that it's a stupid idea. A custom games browser would only fuck things up even more since there's already 30 playlists and only like thirteen people playing at a given moment. Stuff Grifball, SWAT, Infection, Infinity Slayer, and all that other bullshit into one playlist called Dumb Fuckery and call it a day.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Either or, point is to juices is that there is no other Halo. Destiny is a June game and could easily slip to fall. Where are you going? Titanfall? Killzone? When they do something right might as well enjoy it.
Except for the jetpacks and camo. That shit still sucks.
ffs
Crossposting from the other thread.
Soon.
Magic is happening here.