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I'll be sure to inform Ogre 2 of this ground breaking discovery as soon as possible.
I'm sure an MLG player will care about a mainline matchmaking player's opinions.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Yeah, I think juggling could have been faster so the trade off could've been more apparent, but I also think it's fundamentally an interesting trade between obvious speed and slower stealth that they should bring back.
It was amusing to pull the flag against a wannabe pro team and deliberately not juggle it, and run it all the way back with nary a scratch because holy shit where's the flag?.
Perfect timing! We're having our first HaloGAF game night in a LONG time. We play on Saturday night
You can't seriously believe flag juggling is worse in every single case when it comes to online mm at least.
User 73706
Banned
I love flag juggling arguments.
I can live with it or without it because, as ExWife can attest in our many Lightning Flag matches, I have the agility of a greased-up deaf guy while carrying the flag.
I can live with it or without it because, as ExWife can attest in our many Lightning Flag matches, I have the agility of a greased-up deaf guy while carrying the flag.
The success rate is not high enough to pull the handle on the Latency Slot Machine, myself.
There's certain stuff that works better on LAN and certain stuff that works better on LIVE. For instance, a tactic for myself on Terminal was to launch myself forward with the ghost. It doesn't work on LAN because there's no delay / "catch up" being done by the engine due to latency.
Now Halo 1, and Halo 2, sure yeah I flag throw like a motherfucker on maps like Sanctuary. Halo 1's flag fires out of your body like a greased ball of butter and Halo 2 spawned the flag way in front of you. Halo 2's method smoothed out any hitches from LIVE latency.
Just to be clear... which game(s) do you have problems with flag juggling? H3/Reach? We're not talking about H4 obviously, right?
Halo 3. Not 4, for obvious reasons. 4 cancels it out with the permanent waypoint, which constantly reminds the other team where the other flag is at, for free. I see why they did it, but I don't like it. I prefer to be ninja objective runner.
I'll admit I'm a bit of a hypocrite and like to abuse my own set of flag bugs, like being able to grab a flag 5 feet behind you while facing away from it. You can abuse that on on Valhalla to immediately drop to the bottom while going past the flag on Heavies. And of course slide-jumping off inclines, and abusing the ledge drop animations to jump off air.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Agreed, stealth flag is best flag. Slide jumping needs to come back to prevalence, it's sort of there in 4 but not to the level seen in Halo 2.
Do you have a twitter?
Also, one isn't 'better' than the other. Each is situational but flag juggling is almost always better in any situation if you can do it well. See what I did there?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Sure mate, https://twitter.com/ozzyonyaa2z. I don't use it that often though but it's there. I suppose I should add it to my Waypoint signature. Calling me Toddley, asking for Twitter...I don't date dudes mate
I kid
Remember I love CTF/Assault and ranked H3 objective. I'm quite used to flag juggling and loved the decision of juggle to go fast or hold and stealth run it. Maps like The Pit or Sanctuary work well with juggling vs. holding where maps like Valhalla generally use stealth flag holding far more. I found myself even using the flag dropped as a bait and switch misdirection fairly often, maps like Narrows worked well for that skill.
I never enjoyed the announcer flag dropped, flag taken...should have just announced once or twice then just text feeds from there for a limited time or until flag returned/scored.
Well now we need animated avatars back
so i haven't played halo 4 in about half a year and i never touched spartan ops.
renewed my gold recently, downloaded all 10 episodes and...spartan ops seems really boring, and i'm playing it with a friend on heroic. am i doing something wrong, or is it just not for me? i had a lot more fun with big team infinity slayer.
renewed my gold recently, downloaded all 10 episodes and...spartan ops seems really boring, and i'm playing it with a friend on heroic. am i doing something wrong, or is it just not for me? i had a lot more fun with big team infinity slayer.
Garrett 2U
Member
Spartan Ops is just not very good.
There are a few fun episodes, but most of it is filler.
Yeah most episodes are boring and repetitive especially considering how they re-use levels and it's mostly "go here and press a button"
There are a couple of really nice and fun episodes, most of those vehicle based but that's pretty much it.
YourExWife
Member
I made a pretty sweet video. Everyone should watch it and get nostalgic for proximity voice and pregame lobby chat. BRING IT BACK 343!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSs-72Jphig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSs-72Jphig
ALL I WANTED WERE THE ACTIVE CAMO MEDALS, DAMNIT!!!
Purplemage
Neo Member
Ahh good old Live hate. I gotta jump on and play, anyone else down this early?
Why was the feature removed anyway?
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Bandwidth.
http://blogs.halowaypoint.com/Headlines/post/2013/09/11/The-Halo-Bulletin-91113.aspx
Pretty significant changes. First impressions are good but I'll have to read it over a few times to have a final opinion on it.
Pretty significant changes. First impressions are good but I'll have to read it over a few times to have a final opinion on it.
Maybe they'll bring it back so I can rage at campers and stuff
Naked Lunch
Member
People really need to raise more hell about this. CTF used to be my favorite thing in Halo - now its ruined with the ridiculous "show everyone the flag carrier at all times". The definition of dumbing something down. I remember hiding in the enemy base with the flag waiting for a warthog pickup - this is impossible now.
Was a surprisingly effective spot to hide on such an open map, as long as you weren't spotted going out the back door initially. People didn't tend to go around the base looking towards the base.
A decent compromise would be the flag waypoint appearing whenever someone has red reticule on the flag carrier. This would let micless players contribute intel to the team but still allow choice with the flag. So basically spotting like you said, without losing a button to it.
Camo (as a pickup) would block being spotted via this system
edit: red reticule or have to put a shot into them with your weapon to paint them
You wanna do red reticle or just any reticle? Maybe if its red it will instantly spot and if you're too far away just hover over the flag guy for like 2-3 seconds and it will spot.
I would say red because any reticule would just let you sweep the map to find the flag carrier.
I almost want to say the sniper rifle wouldn't be allowed to spot for this reason (if they can see the flag, they can probably kill it in the next few seconds anyway).
Naked Lunch
Member
I totally used that spot. I think before the patches and stuff - Halo 2 had an unlimited sudden death - a team literally had to score to end the game. I remember a CTF round on Coag lasting forever with someone hiding in that spot. Also, memories of people taking the bomb on top of the map. A 1 bomb game lasted 3 hours before the defenders made it up there to kill them - after you stayed long enough there was no way in hell you were quitting until you saw it finished.
gAg CruSh3r
Member
Was a surprisingly effective spot to hide on such an open map, as long as you weren't spotted going out the back door initially. People didn't tend to go around the base looking towards the base.
I miss Halo 2 Blood Gulch and Waterworks
... Best CTF maps from Halo multiplayer. They really need to bring back Sudden-death time (2 mins added extra time) into Halo for Objection game types. I love having that thrill of gameplay when you pick up the flag last second and making a strong effort of sneaking/ killing everyone with no waypoint to get that final score to win the game.
gAg CruSh3r
Member
So like Gears of War? Where you can mark a player but it can be only the Flag carrier?
You have a lot of good ideas. You should make games.
WHAT THE FUCK
YOU BACK IN THESE NECK OF THE WOODS? GOOD.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Yep unlimited sudden death back then. I recall a near 2 hour game on burial mounds where enemies took the flag out of the map at their offensive spawn in the last round. My team got down to 2 of us and we refused to let them win. Jumped on the laptop and learnt the Spectre ramming trick for that spot. So my random team mate gets rockets and I eventually get him up there. As he's literally flying up there he nails 1 of 3 enemies with his first rocket and I just watch and listening as he then double kills the other enemy and flag carrier with the second. Within a those dying seconds hearing round over and game over have never been do sweet to prevail 2 caps to 1. Proximity voice had the enemies bagging us for near 2 hours and random team mate chatting prevailed. I have never trash talked so hard in any post carnage session. The enemies did allow us the full post carnage time to bask in this most epic win on the final round. They even seemed to enjoy our "accomplishment" too.
Halo 2 was amazing, that game was the perfect storm and I'll never forget that experience.
Sure he's a little hit and miss but fucker is funny as when he nails it. Better than HaloGAF meta chatter for 5-10 mins anyhow.
I already regret returning.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
The podcast before that one mate, it was a slooow one for a big chunk of the start. I've said before I really appreciate you/HaloGAF and the coverage you provide from events but it's some legit feedback for prior that PAX episode. Anyhow Halo has all sorts of characters to showcase, why not trial some more members?
xxjuicesxx
Member
Well to be fair what are they really going to talk about?
The games dead, the population is dead. Theres no large changes or patching to look forward to. Bad playlist management.
Hope dwindling for even the next game.
The games dead, the population is dead. Theres no large changes or patching to look forward to. Bad playlist management.
Hope dwindling for even the next game.
But... But... 60FPS... Dedis... Saved Halo... <343
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Precisely why the PAX episode picked it up again. Also reinforces why a creative person like Warher has content filler when podcasts lack events/things to talk about in some episodes. Anyhow I don't mean to post so much, it's not just my thread.
Oh THAT one. That was a fun one but it wasn't as good as the others because I actually did it with shownotes I made like 5 minutes prior to recording. I'm open to all feedback.
It's pretty damn difficult to record these shows when you consider other people's schedules and time zone differences. There have been so many times where the show has been postponed for a number of reasons. Sometimes you just have to record one just to put a show out. I do my best to get a lot of different people on and so far I think I've done a solid job to be honest. Don't worry, babby will get his turn soon enough.
The podcast format is good enough to be independent of news or other stuff going on in the Halo community. I can whip up a full show from what might appear like nothing. They will get back to being more regular instead of just providing reactions to events.
Barrow Roll
Member
I dunno, I enjoy just listening to people shoot the shit if it's funny, there doesn't need to be a specific topic at hand.
It's bad, but there is still fun to be had.
gAg CruSh3r
Member
Lol damn Siri. I was using it to type most of my stuff quickly during my lunch lol.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Nice mate, you're a consummate professional.