The Real Napsta
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DMR used to be my go to weapon before the update, i got used to the BR after it. Maybe I should give the DMR another shot.
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Halo 4 |OT2| TURBO
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DMR used to be my go to weapon before the update, i got used to the BR after it. Maybe I should give the DMR another shot.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Yeah man, it's so lame to have good aiming but your shots don't land because of spread+strafing. Of course you lose the benefit of sweeping for headshots, but I'd much rather the consistency of the DMR.
Coming off 3 years of CE to the 6 years of inconsistent BR between H2/H3 was painful. Hopefully we never return to only BR/AR starts and they let us choose between a pool of balanced weapons to spawn with, similar to Gears.
..or AR/Pistol starts.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Eh, I disagree with FUNKNOWN, BR wins way more often at medium-close range than the DMR. You have to go out aways for it to be a tossup, and even further for the DMR to be flat-out better. You have to be shooting across the entire diameter of a Halo ring for the Light Rifle to be better, for reference. The Carbine is an enigma to me.
Basically, if you're playing Team Slayer, you will almost always want a BR if you want to maximize your killatitude. If you're playing on Big Team or CTF, it depends on the map and how you want to play. My setup is as follows: My first loadout is BR, then I have a vehicle DMR loadout for cars in Big Team and a standard DMR loadout for Big Team when I don't want a vehicle.
Basically, if you're playing Team Slayer, you will almost always want a BR if you want to maximize your killatitude. If you're playing on Big Team or CTF, it depends on the map and how you want to play. My setup is as follows: My first loadout is BR, then I have a vehicle DMR loadout for cars in Big Team and a standard DMR loadout for Big Team when I don't want a vehicle.
Orochinagis
Member
we are alive?
I mean I prefer the BR for more closer distances than DMR still I saw people using it at corners
I mean I prefer the BR for more closer distances than DMR still I saw people using it at corners
Hydranockz
Member
The benefits of having had more threads than we needed I guess.
LastChance2Frag
Neo Member
How likely is it if Halo 2 Anniversary comes out its going to be an multiplayer dlc for Halo 4 much like like Halo CE Anniversary was for Reach?
Basically how unlikely is it that 343 or Certain Affinity reworked Halo 2 multiplayer for Xbox One.... I just can't see them not releasing this on the 360. Would much prefer Xbox one vers.
Basically how unlikely is it that 343 or Certain Affinity reworked Halo 2 multiplayer for Xbox One.... I just can't see them not releasing this on the 360. Would much prefer Xbox one vers.
Orochinagis
Member
I am expecting Halo 4 Maps incluyed on Halo 2 A or an Halo 4 port to make it work like it was with Reach and CEA. I dont think they would implement a whole new multiplayer for a remake but I will be fantastic..
I'm guessing that if they go the H2 maps in Halo 4 engine approach it will work better than it did with Reach, since 343 put a lot of effort into allowing ex post facto changed to gameplay balance and weapon tuning. The only question is how much you'd have to tweak for things like descoping and sprint. I don't think as many people would notice the movement speed, strafe, and jump heights but those appear to be fairly easy in comparison.
If having it like CEA meant we got more maps I'd personally be happy. I imagine doing it that way would give us Forge etc so that's worth tradeoffs for me.
This would still require a X1 version of H4 though...
Prinz Eugn
Member
Yeah, I don't think CEA style would make sense since that would involve porting over Halo 4 while having to keep it backwards compatible with the 360. Plus playing most 4 maps with Halo 2 settings would be like getting punched in the nuts repeatedly. I think it's more likely for the multiplayer to be based on the 4 engine but a separate game as far as we're concerned.
BR wins at mid-range; It's easier to use, kills faster, and allows sweep headshots. The DMR is only useful at long-range.
Personally I still use the BR, but on bigger maps the DMR users give me trouble. There is a range for it, sure, but I still like the BR better for most situations, especially my style of play.
Zoomed LightRifle is an excellent weapon, especially on bigger maps, better than the DMR IMO due to higher damage. Un-zoomed it is meh... but adequate for teamshooting and killing weakened enemies.
Can't quite decide between it and the BR as my general weapon (the end result being a pair duplicate loadouts for both weapons, and one extra loadout that ends up being utterly pointless always).
Can't quite decide between it and the BR as my general weapon (the end result being a pair duplicate loadouts for both weapons, and one extra loadout that ends up being utterly pointless always).
The carbine is very good at close to mid range but lack of the general ammo on maps and it's generally a less popular choice. Its users are few and far between, I've seen about 4 people max using it in a single btb game.
Hydranockz
Member
Well that's not fair. Those 4 people probably make up a decent chunk of people playing the game still.
The Carbine is pointless, it just ain't a real competitor with BR/DMR/LR for any situation, IMO. And this is from a Carbine lover.
(Just like the Storm Rifle and Suppressor are utterly worthless compared to the AR)
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I never said the DMR trumps the BR in most situations, I just personally like it more because the BR takes accuracy out of the player's hands (much less than the DMR's bloom). Also, if you miss one or two shots with the BR, chances are you're already dead by a good DMR user.
In my opinion, the BR isn't LEAGUES better than the DMR, so I'd rather have a more consistent, single shot weapon to use all the time despite the BR being the easier/"better" weapon on paper.
You got me there as another carbine lover it's a shame, I do fine with it but it's as you say not a real competitor. Most battles are BR or DMR really I'd say even the light rifle is pretty useless against the pair.
Un-zoomed, yeah, it kind of is (that said, outfighting a BR wielder with unzoomed LR is a wonderful feeling). Zoomed that thing is a beast but you must stay zoomed, can't let an enemy hit you.
Still prefer it to the DMR as it just feels... lame. Note "feels", no that it is. I don't like Reach but its DMR felt so much better, it sounded better and looked better.
Orochinagis
Member
Loved the carbine changes after the weapon update but still not strong enough to win against a DMR or BR with the proper perks it can compete and overcome easily but still It feels like a weaker but quicker version of the DMR.
It's an interesting concept but the fact that the core mechanics incorporated within 4 work against its long range ability and the BR superiority at close range. Like the carbine it sits on the wayside for other primary weapons.
Totally with you on the sound effects front lots of things just sound terrible, for example the warthog.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Rip halogaf
Oh wow. Just caught up with the drama.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
The thread always implodes on itself every now and then.
Announce halo 2 and save
my
Stinkles, we need you! Save us from the drama
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I forgot about this thread! I just bought Halo 4 again yesterday and am enjoying it a lot. Need more people in Throwdown.
NobleGundam
Banned
Halo Reach Dlc: 3: ?, Noble, Defiant.
CEA + Reach: Anniversary Maps Dlc
Just my guess if the pattern fits:
Halo 4 Dlc: 4: Crimson, Majestic, Castle, and Bullseye.
H2A + Halo 4: Anniversary Map Dlc
If it's true then this ain't good.
CEA + Reach: Anniversary Maps Dlc
Just my guess if the pattern fits:
Halo 4 Dlc: 4: Crimson, Majestic, Castle, and Bullseye.
H2A + Halo 4: Anniversary Map Dlc
If it's true then this ain't good.
Prinz Eugn
Member
No, you pretty much said the DMR was better:
That I don't think is true against competent players and was what I disagreed with, especially in terms of what Napsta was asking about. For most people, they're going to be better off rolling with a BR most of the time.
Stinkles checks HaloGAF <10% as often as Off-topic confirmed.
wasn't too much. more of the same etc.
Perhaps it's not a good idea to start bringing back the irrelevant off-topic stuff that got the last thread locked.
Oy, I'm online. GT Fuchsdh if you need someone.
Oy, I'm online. GT Fuchsdh if you need someone.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not on now, but I'll add you.
K, think I removed you in a previous indiscriminate "get rid of all these Trueachievement boosters" round.
Coming off playing a lot of Bioshock 2 and Reach Halo 4 feels like I'm ice-skating across the map with little engines attached to my shoes.
Prinz Eugn
Member
I'll be on tomorrow night about 9pm mountain, hopefully earlier... I really want to start playing more regularly on weekends. Kind of got out of the habit the last month or so.
BlindSwordsmanZ
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https://onedrive.live.com/#cid=CB17F4AD18B13632&id=CB17F4AD18B13632!119&v=3
Can you guys watch that video? I swear making things public on Skydrive is a bitch
Edit: it's easy I'm just an idiot
Can you guys watch that video? I swear making things public on Skydrive is a bitch
Edit: it's easy I'm just an idiot
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Didn't know I had to stamp an "IMO" on it lol. And notice I said I don't think it's "mandatory," and that I personally like it better for the reasons I described. But yeah, I also disagree with the BR winning way more. It mostly depends on the players because the weapons are balanced well enough IMO.
It should also be noted that significantly more people use the BR and those that use the DMR are probably not too good because of this very discussion lol. What player would willingly choose the DMR over all the benefits of a BR? The minority, and the minority of that minority will actually be competent. Translation: BR being heralded as overpowering the DMR is false IMO.
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EDIT:
hahah nicee
ncsuDuncan
Member
Hey, remember Fistful of Arrows? It was a fan-made comic about what happened to Jun after Halo: Reach.
Stumbled across it again today and really enjoyed the art. It's frustrating to see those poorly drawn Halo: Initiation panels when there's awesome stuff like this out there.
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Oh, and Levi recently self-published a new sci-fi comic:
Mayflower
/shill
Stumbled across it again today and really enjoyed the art. It's frustrating to see those poorly drawn Halo: Initiation panels when there's awesome stuff like this out there.
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Oh, and Levi recently self-published a new sci-fi comic:
Mayflower
/shill
Orochinagis
Member
Hey, remember Fistful of Arrows? It was a fan-made comic about what happened to Jun after Halo: Reach.
Stumbled across it again today and really enjoyed the art. It's frustrating to see those poorly drawn Halo: Initiation panels when there's awesome stuff like this out there.
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Oh, and Levi recently self-published a new sci-fi comic:
Mayflower
/shill
I liked that comic, Armor Lock was actually useful.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I'm on if anyone wants to party up.
Prinz Eugn
Member
I'll play a couple, got off work early-ish tonight.
Hopefully they don't use halo 4 as the basis of matchmaking, it will do far more harm than good.
My favorite part has to be the spec ops elites and the odst's at castle(?) base those where some really well done drawingsHey, remember Fistful of Arrows? It was a fan-made comic about what happened to Jun after Halo: Reach.
Stumbled across it again today and really enjoyed the art. It's frustrating to see those poorly drawn Halo: Initiation panels when there's awesome stuff like this out there.
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Oh, and Levi recently self-published a new sci-fi comic:
Mayflower
/shill
I didn't know he made his own comic, I'll have a look later.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I'm thinking that Halo 5 will probably up Halo 4's minimum 5 to 6 shots to kill requirement to 10 to 12 shots. Greater battles! 
The Carbine sucks because it is underpowered compared to others. If it killed with one shot less and had slightly less spread, or more ROF like its Halo 2 counterpart, it would be okay.
As for sounds in general, i'm generally fine with Halo 4 sounds (thinking back, i've never been quite satisfied with sounds in any single Halo, there's always something wrong or weak or lame). Warthog's all right, my major issue are the plasma weapons. "Toy-like" in previous Halos? Well, how come now they sound like staplers and Forerunner weapons sound like toys (still love the LightRifle AND its sound too).
A carbine with a low spread, high ROF and a low number of shots to kill would be sublime.
I dislike most of the sounds in 4 they are generally toy like or just not that good. The shotgun is an example where it doesn't sound very suitable for what it is. Maybe the scattershot as well?
Very distinctive, i know immediately when someone's wielding it. A good sound IMO, not many weapons have that distinctive sound. And it sounds kinda good too IMO.
The only bad Forerunner sound is the Suppressor, and the Boltshot is a tad weak but i'm not sure how it could be improved.
The Real Napsta
Member
The H5 scattershot needs to just straight rip off the flak cannon from UT (functionally)
gAg CruSh3r
Member
I miss playing Halo. I have not had a Halo 4 LAN in a long time (3 months ago). I just got my roxio game capture pro ( I know it's not as good as the elgato) to stream with. I might try to set one up soon. So I can try it out!
In the deepest shadows of the gaming community HaloGAF lives. Honestly I don't know what to do with myself with the HaloGAF OT gone. Sad truth but I don't know where to go and who to talk too because I feel so miss placed now.
From the last Halo Bulletin :
Well, the Halo Waypoint application wasn't very good in fact, it even was a game on Windows Phone, but I liked its design.
I just hope 343 Industries will create a true application later for Halo Waypoint and won't just make a smartglass experience for Halo Xbox One. Yep, I know halowaypoint.com is responsive and can be read from my phone, but I wish they will create a better experience next time with, I don't know, notifications when I receive a message on their website, when there are new challenges for the game, and even big news like the Halo Bulletin, matchmaking updates, etc...
Well, the Halo Waypoint application wasn't very good in fact, it even was a game on Windows Phone, but I liked its design.
I just hope 343 Industries will create a true application later for Halo Waypoint and won't just make a smartglass experience for Halo Xbox One. Yep, I know halowaypoint.com is responsive and can be read from my phone, but I wish they will create a better experience next time with, I don't know, notifications when I receive a message on their website, when there are new challenges for the game, and even big news like the Halo Bulletin, matchmaking updates, etc...
A lot of people expected Halo 4 to feature stronger Waypoint integration, which obviously never happened. Would be great if they synced up more closely though--I don't open up Waypoint on my Xbox unless it's to enter in codes or whatnot. Putting the web content front and center for people playing the games who might never go to halo waypoint.com seems like a good idea beyond the splash screens they currently use.