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[hyduK]

I would like to see harsher review environment for these AAA games, we need more places holding them to a higher standard. Not just accepting their marketing money and then generating a perfect score.
Eurogamer, Edge, giant bomb are giving out lower scores than most and seem to be reviewing it a little more objectively.


IGN still seems up to their usual tricks though with their 9.8/10 score. Destructoid as well giving it a 10 seems to be circumspect since they admitted to changing their opinion over Marketing dollars last year during the Forbe's articles.

I'm not saying that Halo isn't a good game, I just have trouble believing that they have generated such a perfect and sublime experience that it warrants perfect scores.

People act like this problem only exists with AAA games.

The fact is that Halo may not deserve 10's, and maybe 8's and 9's would be more appropriate. But on the other end of the spectrum, most games that score ~6 actually deserve a 3 or a 4. Part of the reason good games scores are inflated is because bad games scores are inflated, and there has to be a reasonable difference in the scores to show the difference in quality.

Shit, compared to most of the games that score 6/7's or so, a lot of the games that score 9/10's look like 11/12's.

90% of the games in the 60's on metacritic aren't even worth touching....so why are they getting a 6/10? So why should only AAA games get harsher reviews? Isn't that a bit of a double standard? I'm pretty sure none of those devs are 'moneyhatting' reviewers, yet there scores are still way higher than they should be.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Problem with uncharted 3 review thread was that few group of started with "all reviews are fake apart from eurogamer" which led to a huge fight.

I think people should play the game first and then say whether which review is right and which is not

Funniest thing about that is people were absolutely raging their damn heads off and then played the game stepped back and thought...."Yeah thats a 8"

UC3 was a perfect example of how ludicrous it is to get upset by a review before you have actually played the game. Its a truly non-sensical way to react.

 

[cyberheater]

I'm okay with the EDGE 8 score. The game's solid and looks lush. I can't wait to play it.

 

[LastNac]

For some it is and some it isnt.

Different people and different views.

I think when it comes down to it every review is subjective in nature. Hell, Ryan on IGN is a huge Xbox/Halo fan, there is no doubt about it.

Greg Miller gets flack because some deem what he writes as "love letters;" I don't really see a difference between him and McCaffrey to be honest. Reviews are subjective, and thats not a bad thing.

There seems to be a misconception that fans of a series are the most accepting when in fact they are often the most critical. To be honest, when seeking out a review for something I am interested in I seek out a reviewer who is a fan. I don't want to know whether or not he/she thinks I should buy something, I want to know how he/she felt about the overall experience them self.

 

[petethepanda]

Definitely waiting for real-person impressions. I enjoyed Reach online, but god damn was it's single-player crap. I just couldn't believe the praise it got, especially the praise for the story, so I'm super-wary about some of these reviews.

 

[LastNac]

Funniest thing about that is people were absolutely raging their damn heads off and then played the game stepped back and thought...."Yeah thats a 8"

UC3 was a perfect example of how ludicrous it is to get upset by a review before you have actually played the game. Its a truly non-sensical way to react.

I found it to be a 10 myself, but yeah, whatever.

It all depends on what you are looking for in an experience.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Funniest thing about that is people were absolutely raging their damn heads off and then played the game stepped back and thought...."Yeah thats a 8"

UC3 was a perfect example of how ludicrous it is to get upset by a review before you have actually played the game. Its a truly non-sensical way to react.

It still happens, especially for a very particular type of game and it's still hilarious.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

That IGN video review made me throw up a little bit.

 

[tinfoilhatman]

Ugg guess this means I have to hurry up and finish Halo 3 and the Anniversary edition of the original!

 

[pringles]

ms is just starting marketing for xbox next

"Halo 4 is a masterstroke everyone can and should celebrate, and its two guaranteed sequels instantly make the next-generation Xbox a must-own system, with Halo 5 its most anticipated title."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/01/halo-4-review

Christ that actually reads like pure marketing speech.

Sure Halo 4 will awesome but looks like IGN pulled a GTA4 again ("oscar quality writing").

 

[base shagohod]

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT FAT FUCK GAVE IT A 9.8

Yeah, should have been a flat 10.

Ugg guess this means I have to hurry up and finish Halo 3 and the Anniversary edition of the original!

/firstworldproblems

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Any word on GameTrailer's review?

 

[kingocfs]

Definitely waiting for real-person impressions.

LOL, so true.

 

[Interfectum]

God that IGN review is hilarious. Best one of the bunch, easily.

 

[Continuity]

Halo series is the only FPS I will ever play, Halo 4 looks pretty standard for a Halo game, but prettier. I'm expecting a nice lengthy single player, sandbox style gameplay, and a quirky physics engine, this is the winning Halo formula for me, and these great reviews bode well for the game.

Can't wait.

 

[Stinkles]

I would like to see harsher review environment for these AAA games, we need more places holding them to a higher standard. Not just accepting their marketing money and then generating a perfect score.
Eurogamer, Edge, giant bomb are giving out lower scores than most and seem to be reviewing it a little more objectively.


IGN still seems up to their usual tricks though with their 9.8/10 score. Destructoid as well giving it a 10 seems to be circumspect since they admitted to changing their opinion over Marketing dollars last year during the Forbe's articles.

I'm not saying that Halo isn't a good game, I just have trouble believing that they have generated such a perfect and sublime experience that it warrants perfect scores.

The review events were all identical. There wasnt even a cloakroom, let alone a Moneyhat stand. The scores are simply what the reviewers thought about the game. I don't know what 'review enforcement' is but unless you yourself have actually played it, I have no idea why you are saying the lower scores are more 'objective' - especially given that reviewing is by definition, a subjective art. They are long, carefully explained opinions. You find the ones you trust and you base your purchase or reaction on those. Then you play and you look at those reviews with hindsight and see if you agree.

Or at least, that's what I do.

 

[MajorPain]

Game was day 1 purchase for me since it was announced reviews don't matter too much. I have never been disappointed with any Halo game yet. I was a little worried since Bungie left but still knew Microsoft would throw a ton of money into this game.

 

[ironcreed]

Any word on GameTrailer's review?

They are busy sacrificing 1000 bags of Doritos and 500 bottles of Mountain Dew in order to honor the gods. Review will be here shortly.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Man, the wait for Tuesday is pretty unbearable now.

 

[RSTEIN]

Halo series is the only FPS I will ever play

Um, you're missing out on some spectacular games.

 

[Woorloog]

Um, you're missing out on some spectacular games.

In FPS genre? EDIT also depends whether one wants SP or MP.
CODs suck in single player front. Nothing of value lost by not playing it. Very different multiplayer.
Battlefield series has pretty bad SP experiences generally. Very different multiplayer.
What else... Gears of War is not FPS technically.
MoH tries to be COD apparently and thus probably not much lost if one skips it.
Crysis is ok. Best of what i've listed so far.

 

[Mr.Fresh]

In FPS genre?
CODs suck in single player front. Nothing of value lost by not playing it. Very different multiplayer.
Battlefield series has pretty bad SP experiences generally. Very different multiplayer.
What else... Gears of War is not FPS technically.
MoH tries to be COD apparently.

There's games like Bioshock, Killzone, Bulletstorm , and Borderlands. They're all great.

 

[TheOddOne]

In FPS genre?.

Bioshock, Half-Life, Dishonored, Deus Ex and more I can't up with right now.

 

[Syphon Filter]

That IGN video review made me throw up a little bit.

why?

 

[Trickster]

why?

TOO POSITIVE!

 

[RSTEIN]

In FPS genre? EDIT also depends whether one wants SP or MP.
CODs suck in single player front. Nothing of value lost by not playing it. Very different multiplayer.
Battlefield series has pretty bad SP experiences generally. Very different multiplayer.
What else... Gears of War is not FPS technically.
MoH tries to be COD apparently and thus probably not much lost if one skips it.
Crysis is ok. Best of what i've listed so far.

I'd argue that the Bioshock's campaign is better than Halo 2, Halo 3, and Reach's campaigns combined. But we're getting off topic.

Not to mention:

Half-Life
Quake
Unreal Tournament 2K4
Metro
Portal
Counterstrike
Crysis
Far Cry
Fear
Team Fortress
Killzone
Resistance

 

[Franklinator]

Awesome scores!

Also, I didn't know that Reach has a 91 on Metacritic. lol

 

[strafer]

GB's is up, 4 stars.

 

[hyduK]

There's games like Bioshock, Killzone, Bulletstorm , and Borderlands. They're all great.

Eh, Borderlands isn't really an FPS.

Other than BioShock 1, he hasn't missed much from the other 3.

 

[lowrider007]

In FPS genre? EDIT also depends whether one wants SP or MP.
CODs suck in single player front. Nothing of value lost by not playing it. Very different multiplayer.
Battlefield series has pretty bad SP experiences generally. Very different multiplayer.
What else... Gears of War is not FPS technically.
MoH tries to be COD apparently and thus probably not much lost if one skips it.
Crysis is ok. Best of what i've listed so far.

Just a quick shout out for Singularity, really great sp campaign imo.

I agree though that this hasn't really been the generation for great fps's.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Awesome scores!

Also, I didn't know that Reach has a 91 on Metacritic. lol

whats wrong with reach?

 

[Sai-kun]

Eh, Borderlands isn't really an FPS.

i want to believe i didn't actually read this. i'm dying of laughter.

whats wrong with reach?

it's bad

 

[Woorloog]

There's games like Bioshock, Killzone, Bulletstorm , and Borderlands. They're all great.

Bioshock, Half-Life, Dishonored, Deus Ex and more I can't up with right now.

Well, i wrote "what else".
Let's see. Dishonored is disqualified along with Deus Ex for being hybrid games, and thus different enough, they can't be thougth as FPS games alone. S in FPS refers to shooter after all.

I was never impressed by Bioshock (demo). Don't care about it, someone else needs to say whether it is worth playing, IMO it is not.
Killzone is PS game, disqualified if we stick to 360 like Halo is. Haven't played it.
Haven't played Borderlands. Not my genre though, looting stuff.
Bulletstorm... well, at least it is different. Very subjective, play demo.

EDIT also, i'd exclude all old games, Half Life series, UT2k4 (excellent one)... because older FPSes are good or at least better than most newer ones. Newer ones are not outside few exceptions.

EDIT i'll stop here but i'll note if one looks for Halo-like experience, there ain't one other than Halos.

 

[Lime]

why?

It's so hyperbolic that the actual value statements become meaningless. You cannot see what's wrong with the needlessly excessive language in it?

 

[ironcreed]

whats wrong with reach?

Yeah, I was burnt out after 3, but absolutely loved Reach to death. Just a flat out great game. I still think that this is looking like 343 completely surpassed Bungie here, though. At least I think that will be the case for me. We shall see.

 

[Syphon Filter]

reach is most likely better than H4.seems more inspired and the character design is better.

 

[GavinGT]

 

 

[Mr.Fresh]

Eh, Borderlands isn't really an FPS.

Other than BioShock 1, he hasn't missed much from the other 3.

Uhh I'm pretty sure when I played Borderlands 2 it was in First Person.

EDIT: Nvm don't wanna keep going off topic.

 

[Sai-kun]

Well, i wrote "what else".
Let's see. Dishonored is disqualified along with Deus Ex for being hybrid games, and thus different enough, they can't be thougth as FPS games alone. S in FPS refers to shooter after all.

I was never impressed by Bioshock (demo). Don't care about it, someone else needs to say whether it is worth playing, IMO it is not.

what in the fuck. the hybridization makes it even better, since you can play the games so many different ways.

also bioshock 1 is one of the best games of the generation.

 

[hyduK]

i want to believe i didn't actually read this. i'm dying of laughter.

It's far more loot based/rpg based than a game that is strictly about shooting (Halo, COD, CS ,etc). I wouldn't bunch it (or games like Deus Ex for that matter) with games like Halo, COD, Half Life, etc.

Saying it's not an FPS is probably wrong on my part, it's more like 'one of those things is not like the others'.

 

[Miles X]

Left 4 Dead is an amazing FPS as well

 

[Sai-kun]

But it still first person.

And it is a shooter.

Thus, it fulfills the requirements to be a first person shooter.

Left 4 Dead is an amazing FPS as well

As long as you're playing it on PC, and not 360.

 

[REV 09]

I'd argue that the Bioshock's campaign is better than Halo 2, Halo 3, and Reach's campaigns combined. But we're getting off topic.

Not to mention:

Half-Life
Quake
Unreal Tournament 2K4
Metro
Portal
Counterstrike
Crysis
Far Cry
Fear
Team Fortress
Killzone
Resistance

lol. you don't even have a ps3...BLAM, caught wit your pants down!!!

 

[Sissel]

whats wrong with reach?

forgettable game, didn't really have any memorable moments. Didn't care about any of the characters either.

 

[Mr.Fresh]

Did gametrailers review ever drop?

 

[SniperHunter]

I only believe the Eurogamer and edge reviews....all the 10/10 reviews are complete bull shit.

 

[Woorloog]

what in the fuck. the hybridization makes it even better, since you can play the games so many different ways.

also bioshock 1 is one of the best games of the generation.

We were talking about FPSes. First Person Shooters.
Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls series are First Person games (well, the can be played in TP but they're not very good that way) but they're not shooters.
First Person Action Game describes hybrid games better, if they're played in first person.
I didn't say it was a bad thing, just that i'd disqualify them as FPSes.

 

[WrenchNinja]

forgettable game, didn't really have any memorable moments. Didn't care about any of the characters either.

Come on, the ending is pretty memorable.

 

[Bentendo]

I'm okay with the EDGE 8 score. The game's solid and looks lush. I can't wait to play it.

Of course you're okay. It's a single review that isn't at all negative.

 

[StuBurns]

In terms of console shooters, I don't think there any others worth playing for their combat specifically. BioShock is amazing, but for very different reasons.

As for the reviews, it is odd the three outlets I actually read GB/EG/Edge have been toward the lower end of the range, but it doesn't mean much.