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[The Henery]

What a giant fucking waste of time.

"good week coming!"

Gtfo. Like we're supposed to be hype about maybe a patch fixing that mess of a game.

Whatever it is "coming" this week, unless it's a working version of MCC you can keep it.

Yeah I don't know who that guy is but it seems super crass to try and generate any guerilla leak hype at this time. They should be ashamed to even speak of H5 all the while MCC is a mess. If he's alluding to MCC content and/or fixes, just be transparent. I've already paid full price for the game; tell me what the fuck is going on.

 

[Netprints]

If he's alluding to MCC content and/or fixes, just be transparent. I've already paid full price for the game; tell me what the fuck is going on.

Yeah. I don't understand the lack of communication. When the last patch went live there was no information on it. It just appeared. It would be nice to hear something.

 

[Nebula]

I started a Pit remake on H2A:
http://xboxclips.com/JHFerry3/78c4d630-1b07-412b-bb6f-e8e49aada22c

I'd restart on a map with a light source above the map instead of to the side.

 

[Welfare]

It would be interesting to see the population for this collection. I wonder how much it has dropped off. I imagine a lot :3

If 343 really wanted to show us (at the very least, me) that they know they fucked up, give us a population counter.

I bet part of the reason matchmaking is having long search times is that the population is actually low, barring holiday copies.

And even without the issues, why is there no pop counter? The fuck. I want to know how many people are in a playlist. IDGAF if your MM "works", I want to know from the get go if I should waste my time searching a playlist.

 

[willow ve]

If 343 really wanted to show us (at the very least, me) that they know they fucked up, give us a population counter.

I bet part of the reason matchmaking is having long search times is that the population is actually low, barring holiday copies.

And even without the issues, why is there no pop counter? The fuck. I want to know how many people are in a playlist. IDGAF if your MM "works", I want to know from the get go if I should waste my time searching a playlist.

LOL - they're never putting a population counter in their games ever again. There's even a whole conspiracy that Major Nelson stopped posting "top games on Xbox Live" after Halo 4 basically fell off the list

Spoiler

yeah - I don't buy into that theory, but it is interesting

.

Would be sad to see how quickly MCC numbers fell apart after this abysmal launch.

 

[FyreWulff]

If 343 really wanted to show us (at the very least, me) that they know they fucked up, give us a population counter.

I bet part of the reason matchmaking is having long search times is that the population is actually low, barring holiday copies.

And even without the issues, why is there no pop counter? The fuck. I want to know how many people are in a playlist. IDGAF if your MM "works", I want to know from the get go if I should waste my time searching a playlist.

They've been giving the players less information with each game. Halo 3, ODST, and Reach had 24hr UUs on site and current players in game (with various levels of accuracy). Halo 4 dropped 24hr UUs. MCC drops in-game population.

Stats were open for Halo 2 , 3, ODST and Reach. Microsoft takes over Reach and kills the stats API for the public. Halo 4 era Waypoint makes you sign in to even view stats. Current era Waypoint now enforces signing in to view even old games stats. You can't even see my basic Reach overview without signing up for a MS account on Waypoint. Bungie.net does not gate theirs behind any sign in - and shows even more detailed info than 343 does.

 

[-Ryn]

The AoT fan game is really good!

Also both of you should watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, for reasons.

There's been a recent update that introduced a new type of Titan as well as made a variety of new Titan skins. Some new visual effects as well. It's so gooooood. I'd love to see a full on professional studio make a game on PC for AoT.

I'll check out JoJo. Reasons are reason enough.

Okay 343i really need to make these Prometheans less bullet spongy in Halo 5. It takes like two full magazines from a light rifle to kill one Knight on legendary. It's silly. Not to mention that you get next to no ammo during the campaign for some reason (and on that note, what the hell @ the plasma pistol? Thing is using multiplayer ammo consumption. Which is ridiculous. 2-3 overcharges and it's almost empty)

This campaign is so infuriating compared to the other 3. There's just so much crap. It's like they didn't think about half of these encounters and tossed some enemies into a space and called it a day

Halo 4's campaign is an exercise in frustration. The only thing I can really recommend is to always use a suppressor. That gun rips Knigjts to shreds. I wouldn't even bother with the power weapons either. Shields are just too bullshit.

I really hope that Halo 5's campaign is done better...

Spoiler

and dammit there better be some fucking awesome large scale battles.

 

[Nirvana]

Okay 343i really need to make these Prometheans less bullet spongy in Halo 5. It takes like two full magazines from a light rifle to kill one Knight on legendary. It's silly. Not to mention that you get next to no ammo during the campaign for some reason (and on that note, what the hell @ the plasma pistol? Thing is using multiplayer ammo consumption. Which is ridiculous. 2-3 overcharges and it's almost empty)

This campaign is so infuriating compared to the other 3. There's just so much crap. It's like they didn't think about half of these encounters and tossed some enemies into a space and called it a day

I actually really enjoyed Halo 4 on Legendary, I thought the difficulty felt perfect. Halo 2 is my all time favourite though, with Halo 3 at the bottom of the pile.

 

[-Ryn]

I actually really enjoyed Halo 4 on Legendary, I thought the difficulty felt perfect. Halo 2 is my all time favourite though, with Halo 3 at the bottom of the pile.

In terms of Legendary I'd say from best to worst:

CE
3
2
Reach
4

 

[Nirvana]

In terms of Legendary I'd say from best to worst:

CE
3
2
Reach
4

For me it's:

2
CE
4
Reach
3
ODST

 

[-Ryn]

For me it's:

2
CE
4
Reach
3
ODST

Oh shoot I forgot about ODST. I'd have to put ODST just after 3. Actually it might be my 2nd favorite. Hard to say.

My main reason for 2 being below 3 is due to a lot of its difficulty being based around the Elites having ridiculous shields and making enemy damage output fucking ridiculous (which is cheap and more frustrating than challenging imo).

 

[Omni]

I actually really enjoyed Halo 4 on Legendary, I thought the difficulty felt perfect. Halo 2 is my all time favourite though, with Halo 3 at the bottom of the pile.

The difficulty is alright. I mean I'm not dying because of enemies being too tough. My main problem is the actual campaign and enemy design itself. Like I shouldn't be stuck killing 16 ghosts and several tanks with an AR for over 30 minutes. That's just silly. And then you have all the scripted events that are painfully boring and play out the same way each and every time. And the lack of ammo. And the stupid split second of invincibility that Knights get when you knock their shields. Or their tendency to teleport once you've wasted two magazines of your sparse ammo on them.

It's just not fun.

At least with all the other campaigns it didn't feel like I was constantly getting shit over due to bad design decisions.

 

[Overdoziz]

Knights are terrible.

You rarely have plasma weapons when they're around so no easy way to get rid of their shields.
Their shields are practically invisible and there's no good way to see if their shields are down or not.
Their shields recharge really fast.
Getting headshots on them is nigh impossible.
You can't damage them while they do their teleport animation.

Bonus points for terribleness when they're using the snipers, rocket launcher or shotguns.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Heard this game was like 26th on the Xbone population charts. Just wanted to come here and congratulate 343i.

 

[Zoso Achilles]

The difficulty is alright. I mean I'm not dying because of enemies being too tough. My main problem is the actual campaign and enemy design itself. Like I shouldn't be stuck killing 16 ghosts and several tanks with an AR for over 30 minutes. That's just silly. And then you have all the scripted events that are painfully boring and play out the same way each and every time. And the lack of ammo. And the stupid split second of invincibility that Knights get when you knock their shields. Or their tendency to teleport once you've wasted two magazines of your sparse ammo on them.

It's just not fun.

At least with all the other campaigns it didn't feel like I was constantly getting shit over due to bad design decisions.

There is no lack of ammo, it is not sparse. You just aren't looking very well because there is tons of it around.

 

[Fracas]

Heard this game was like 26th on the Xbone population charts. Just wanted to come here and congratulate 343i.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3rFgr0Tu1c

 

[m23]

Okay 343i really need to make these Prometheans less bullet spongy in Halo 5. It takes like two full magazines from a light rifle to kill one Knight on legendary. It's silly. Not to mention that you get next to no ammo during the campaign for some reason (and on that note, what the hell @ the plasma pistol? Thing is using multiplayer ammo consumption. Which is ridiculous. 2-3 overcharges and it's almost empty)

This campaign is so infuriating compared to the other 3. There's just so much crap. It's like they didn't think about half of these encounters and tossed some enemies into a space and called it a day

Unless I'm remembering wrong, it took 1 magazine to kill a knight. I guess as long as you're zoomed in that happens. Maybe unscoped it takes 2 magazines.

 

[CliQ]

In terms of Legendary I'd say from best to worst:

CE
3
2
Reach
4

Here's mine...

CE
Reach
4
3
ODST
2

This list is very misleading though because they are all a lot of fun to play. The list actually changes for me if I'm playing solo or Coop.

 

[Welfare]

Well, it is currently getting beaten by CoD, GTA, Fifa, Far Cry, DA:I, Ass Creed, and Destiny (Not in that order).

Using bf4stats.com, Halo has at least 6k online.

OMG this game is dead.

 

[Onikaan]

Well, it is currently getting beaten by CoD, GTA, Fifa, Far Cry, DA:I, Ass Creed, and Destiny (Not in that order).

Using bf4stats.com, Halo has at least 6k online.

OMG this game is dead.

I wonder if they'll do some kind of relaunch campaign once the MP works. Y'know, like CPR?

 

[TriStateTryHard]

Does anyone else feel like Halo needs to focus more on weapons that have unique effects, like the Sword's lunge, the Concussion Rifle's knock back, or the CE Plasma Rifle's player stun, rather than giving us multiple similar weapons like the AR, SMG, and Silenced SMG or Magnum, BR, and DMR? 343 seems to want to fill the same niche over sand over again rather than create and fill new niches.

 

[CreateNowSleepLater]

I'd restart on a map with a light source above the map instead of to the side.

Damn it. I know you guys are right.

 

[User 73706]

Does anyone else feel like Halo needs to focus more on weapons that have unique effects, like the Sword's lunge, the Concussion Rifle's knock back, or the CE Plasma Rifle's player stun, rather than giving us multiple similar weapons like the AR, SMG, and Silenced SMG or Magnum, BR, and DMR? 343 seems to want to fill the same niche over sand over again rather than create and fill new niches.

I think that's mainly a flaw of the human weaponry. The Promethean weapons had some interesting ideas like a headshot-capable charge weapon or the bouncing projectiles of the Scattershot, but the problem is that they focused more on ramping up the hell out of the damage output rather than capitalizing on secondary effects.

 

[The Henery]

I wonder if they'll do some kind of relaunch campaign once the MP works. Y'know, like CPR?

It's absolutely necessary. This game just simply hasn't been given the chance to live. Phil Spencer or somebody of equivalent gravitas within the MS hierarchy needs to come out and do a BP style we're sorry campaign too. It's just too quiet for a franchise of this magnitude.

 

[Sephzilla]

I wonder if they'll do some kind of relaunch campaign once the MP works. Y'know, like CPR?

It'll probably be called Christmas

 

[User 73706]

Christmas Public Relations?

 

[Tawpgun]

Well, it is currently getting beaten by CoD, GTA, Fifa, Far Cry, DA:I, Ass Creed, and Destiny (Not in that order).

Using bf4stats.com, Halo has at least 6k online.

OMG this game is dead.

I'd believe it. I was starting to see familiar gamertags in my games.

I'm starting to doubt this game will ever fully recover. All I can hope for is to be able to get in to even teamed (not even skill, just even numbers) games with my party.

THAT'S ALL I WANT.

I think if 343 wants to regain some of the lost playerbase (after game works properly) they need to release some form of awesome DLC or SOMETHING and hype that up.

 

[TriStateTryHard]

I think that's mainly a flaw of the human weaponry. The Promethean weapons had some interesting ideas like a headshot-capable charge weapon or the bouncing projectiles of the Scattershot, but the problem is that they focused more on ramping up the hell out of the damage output rather than capitalizing on secondary effects.

Projectiles that ricochet is a cool idea but I feel like a shotgun was the wrong weapon type to put it on. The Grenade Launcher's remotely detonated projectile was another good one. What other unique effects do you think Halo weapons could have?

 

[Prinz Eugn]

I think that's mainly a flaw of the human weaponry. The Promethean weapons had some interesting ideas like a headshot-capable charge weapon or the bouncing projectiles of the Scattershot, but the problem is that they focused more on ramping up the hell out of the damage output rather than capitalizing on secondary effects.

Man, the stupid Scattershot was such a wasted opportunity to recreate the Flak Cannon. Bouncing shots never seemed to work.

 

[Impala26]

Wait, no I got it.

It was just another case of 343i not thinking about what they're actually doing with campaign. I had to kill 16 ghosts and 5 wraiths with an assault rifle. Yeap. Great game design there. Say what you want about Destiny, at least Bungie knows how to make something that's actually fun.

Playing this after Bungie's games is just jarring. And right now, if Halo 4 and the MCC is anything to go by, I couldn't be less excited about Halo 5. 343i honestly seem incompetent. Salty, but whatever.

Phogoth Disagrees...

 

[TheOddOne]

Man, the stupid Scattershot was such a wasted opportunity to recreate the Flak Cannon. Bouncing shots never seemed to work.

I still struggle to understand why it was so inconsistent. Then again, most if not all the Promethean weaponry was wildly inconsistent across the board.

 

[TriStateTryHard]

I still struggle to understand why it was so inconsistent. Then again, most if not all the Promethean weaponry was wildly inconsistent across the board.

The range that each Scattershot projectile would disappear at and the damage each projectile would deal is random IIRC.

 

[VinFTW]

The difficulty is alright. I mean I'm not dying because of enemies being too tough. My main problem is the actual campaign and enemy design itself. Like I shouldn't be stuck killing 16 ghosts and several tanks with an AR for over 30 minutes. That's just silly. And then you have all the scripted events that are painfully boring and play out the same way each and every time. And the lack of ammo. And the stupid split second of invincibility that Knights get when you knock their shields. Or their tendency to teleport once you've wasted two magazines of your sparse ammo on them.

It's just not fun.

At least with all the other campaigns it didn't feel like I was constantly getting shit over due to bad design decisions.

You're doing something severely wrong.

 

[Tawpgun]

I still struggle to understand why it was so inconsistent. Then again, most if not all the Promethean weaponry was wildly inconsistent across the board.

Not too disimiliar to headshot consistency on prometheans....

 

[TheOddOne]

The range that each Scattershot projectile would disappear at and the damage each projectile would deal is random IIRC.

Yeah, people did point that out. The thing I struggled with was that it seem to function fully at certain ranges, and outside of the range it was just inconsistent; maybe that was the desired drawback. The problem was that it was never clear when the ranges began or ended. Which is frustrating, because you want to know how effectively you can wield the weapon in battles. It was just luck-of-the-draw type weapon, and caused me to avoid it at all cost.

Not too disimiliar to headshot consistency on prometheans....

*Getting terrible flashbacks* Yeah, the Promethean sandbox is random as hell.

 

[jem0208]

Well this is bullshit:

http://rewards.xbox.com/mymissions/

(If you buy the MCC from now until the end of December you get 15'000 reward credits.)


Where's my credits for buying this broken crap early?

 

[Overdoziz]

You're doing something severely wrong.

Playing Halo 4 campaign for starters.

 

[TriStateTryHard]

Well this is bullshit:

http://rewards.xbox.com/mymissions/

(You get 15'000 reward credits for buying the MCC)


Where's my credits for buying this broken crap early?

Maybe everyone that bought MCC will get the $15 as compensation. It would be a smart play by MS because it would look like an apology but most people would prob throw another $45 on top of that $15 to buy a game so MS wins in the end anyway.

 

[dwells]

Well this is bullshit:

http://rewards.xbox.com/mymissions/

(You get 15'000 reward credits for buying the MCC)


Where's my credits for buying this broken crap early?

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Poker Face]

Phogoth Disagrees...

Destiny is better than Halo 4.

 

[User 73706]

Destiny is better than Halo 4.

ehhhhh

 

[Sephzilla]

Destiny is better than Halo 4.

ehhhhh

I'm in the Halo 4 > Destiny camp.

Halo 4 held my attention long enough to finish the game and play multiplayer. Destiny lost me during the damn beta.

 

[IHaveIce]

Destiny is better than Halo 4.

nope

 

[TriStateTryHard]

Phogoth reminds me of that boss from the game RAGE.

 

[Impala26]

Phogoth reminds me of that boss from the game RAGE.

Phogoth and the general "Ogre" enemies in Destiny make me think they're a direct cop-out to the Brumaks from the Gears of War series.

Destiny Ogre:

GoW Brumak:

 

[Welfare]

Well this is bullshit:

http://rewards.xbox.com/mymissions/

(You get 15'000 reward credits for buying the MCC)


Where's my credits for buying this broken crap early?

I better get $15. That's bullshit if only people who buy it now get the money.

I hope this isn't what Kamp was alluding to.

 

[Caja 117]

It's absolutely necessary. This game just simply hasn't been given the chance to live. Phil Spencer or somebody of equivalent gravitas within the MS hierarchy needs to come out and do a BP style we're sorry campaign too. It's just too quiet for a franchise of this magnitude.

At this point is trying to convince everybody that this game works when it get fixed, and no one outside of Hardcore fans will buy this game to try and see if this is true.

MS/343 will have to just put this game up for free for a week or two to convince people that the the game is playable.

 

[TriStateTryHard]

At this point is trying to convince everybody that this game works when it get fixed, and no one outside of Hardcore fans will buy this game to try and see if this is true.

MS/343 will have to just put this game up for free for a week or two to convince people that they the game is playable.

Or they could play off of 117 and make it free until January 17rd.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Destiny is better than Halo 4.

Destiny is more addictive than Halo 4. Collect them colors, fill those bars.

 

[Tawpgun]

I'm enjoying Destiny more than Halo 4.

But Halo 4 pvp is better than Destiny pvp.