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[Onikaan]

I have a feeling this is the patch.

3rd time lucky.

 

[TriStateTryHard]

Frankie is getting death threats, I really hate some parts of the "gaming" community -_-

Seriously that stuff it's not cool.

Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back.

 

[jem0208]

Frankie is getting death threats, I really hate some parts of the "gaming" community -_-

Seriously that stuff it's not cool.

Seriously?

That's fucking ridiculous.

I hate the internet some times.

 

[User 73706]

Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back.

no

 

[RowdyReverb]

Frankie is getting death threats, I really hate some parts of the "gaming" community -_-

Seriously that stuff it's not cool.

That's such a shame. He seems like such a nice guy. Think he genuinely likes the franchise, and I feel like he's as disappointed as fans are by the state of MCC.

 

[Madness]

Frankie is getting death threats, I really hate some parts of the "gaming" community -_-

Seriously that stuff it's not cool.

No way... That's pathetic. It's not like it's not new either. I remember when the guys behind Call of Duty nerfed some guns or stopped glitches and basically got the same.

Was it over twitter? Twitter is and has been a shitshow with insults. So many people are insulting people who didn't even have anything to do with MCC. I hate the industry as well. Don't even like telling people I don't know that I'm a gamer. I couldn't imagine wanting to work in this industry either.

 

[Omni]

It is done! Finished all the campaigns on legendary. Midnight and Composer in Halo 4 are nice levels. Rest of the game, particularly the middle section is pretty awful though. But I've complained about that enough

I think for me it still goes Halo CE > Halo 2 = Halo 3 >> Halo 4 in terms of enjoyment

edit. oh it didn't record my progress on one of the levels /sobs into a pillow. Why

 

[-Ryn]

Frankie is getting death threats, I really hate some parts of the "gaming" community -_-

Seriously that stuff it's not cool.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

As we proved the other night, the Carbine is plainly more powerful than the BR and almost everyone switched to it once they realized what was going on. The only reason it is not breaking matchmaking is because it's uncommon on the maps.

Man, we played one match on Backwash in a game where some people weren't too good (ie: my friends). I don't think that proves anything lol

Basically, I when I found the Carbine I used it over the BR until it ran out of ammo. Of course I would use power weapons if it was prudent. Considering that the BR already dominates the H2 sandbox for the most part, and the Carbine is now a super-BR... that's no bueno unless you're trying to make SWAT 2.0. It's basically a power weapon, not a utility.

I don't think labeling it as a power weapon is fair considering it's the same situation with the BR, except that it may kill quicker more often. You still want to pick up the power weapons and you will still be holding the same positions, except now maybe people will be less concerned with escaping and running away from fights, and more active in fighting back if down in a situation.

In my opinion, the BR lends itself to defensive/passive gameplay more than it does aggressive, and that's something the games after CE lack. Gameplay is more fun with the Carbine, and if I'm getting dumped on then it only encourages me to overpower them even more granted I have the starting weapons to do so. Being down in Halo 2 against a good team with BR's is problematic because you can't overpower them with just your one BR, whereas there may be more of a possibility with a weapon like the Carbine. One might try to counter that by saying, "Well imagine if they had a setup with Carbines instead.." to which I would reply with "Look at CE and how the starting weapons in that game empower the individual player and look at the resulting sandbox, how powerful each weapon is. A Sniper that shoots fastest in the series, a Rocket that is a nuke, grenades that are missiles and landmines, Plasma Rifles that rock your shit, Shotguns that behave like.. Shotguns, etc." There are too many stalemates with the BR and defensive play trumps all; it's just not as fun.

What it comes down to is what gameplay are you looking for, that's the question you need to ask. I agree, the Carbine is better than the BR in many, if not all scenarios, but just because it's better does not mean gameplay automatically goes to crap for it. Maybe the H2C Carbine as the default weapon is what would make Halo 2 play a lot better, but who knows right now, neither you nor I from the limited gameplay we've had with them under these settings. I need moarrrrrr Carbineeee

 

[Fata1moose]

Don't like how the BR sounds in Halo 5, is it a single shot now? It doesn't look like a 3 shot burst, nor sound like one.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

to be fair these kind of rewards programs/punchcards are set in place pretty early on. Most likely it was planned before the MM issues/launch happened.

And normally I would be sympathetic, but there's no reason they couldn't delay this deal. Also a pretty bad feeling for those of us who bought the game at launch and received nothing but headaches and disappointment.

 

[VinFTW]

And normally I would be sympathetic, but there's no reason they couldn't delay this deal. Also a pretty bad feeling for those of us who bought the game at launch and received nothing but headaches and disappointment.

As I said... do you really think thats the "compensation"?

That's clearly not what they have planned for us. Let's not overreact here.

 

[dwells]

Can't say I'm surprised with the death threats. There's a lot of crazy people out there, and the internet gives them a voice. Throw anger and anonymity into the mix and there ya go.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Man, we played one match on Backwash in a game where some people weren't too good (ie: my friends). I don't think that proves anything lol


I don't think labeling it as a power weapon is fair considering it's the same situation with the BR, except that it may kill quicker more often. You still want to pick up the power weapons and you will still be holding the same positions, except now maybe people will be less concerned with escaping and running away from fights, and more active in fighting back if down in a situation.

In my opinion, the BR lends itself to defensive/passive gameplay more than it does aggressive, and that's something the games after CE lack. Gameplay is more fun with the Carbine, and if I'm getting dumped on then it only encourages me to overpower them even more granted I have the starting weapons to do so. Being down in Halo 2 against a good team with BR's is problematic because you can't overpower them with just your one BR, whereas there may be more of a possibility with a weapon like the Carbine. One might try to counter that by saying, "Well imagine if they had a setup with Carbines instead.." to which I would reply with "Look at CE and how the starting weapons in that game empower the individual player and look at the resulting sandbox, how powerful each weapon is. A Sniper that shoots fastest in the series, a Rocket that is a nuke, grenades that are missiles and landmines, Plasma Rifles that rock your shit, Shotguns that behave like.. Shotguns, etc." There are too many stalemates with the BR and defensive play trumps all; it's just not as fun.

What it comes down to is what gameplay are you looking for, that's the question you need to ask. I agree, the Carbine is better than the BR in many, if not all scenarios, but just because it's better does not mean gameplay automatically goes to crap for it. Maybe the H2C Carbine as the default weapon is what would make Halo 2 play a lot better, but who knows right now, neither you nor I from the limited gameplay we've had with them under these settings. I need moarrrrrr Carbineeee

I think what it boils down to is that you want not-Halo 2. Halo 2 is basically defined by the BR and what you get with the Carbine on this version is some weird sub-game that is certainly different but not any better.

I don't think it's an improvement, and comparing to CE is useless because the entire sandbox is still completely different. If faster utility kill times were everything (and a faster kill time is the only substantial difference), why not SWAT with power weapons or half-shield BRs?

Carbine kills feel very cheap to me anyway because the RoF means aiming is not important compared to other utilities like, say, the CE magnum. It also erases the beauty of single-shot weapons because the optimal use is to spam it into someone's anything.

 

[Omni]

Is literally every part of this stupid game broken? This has really just pissed me off. Okay matchmaking isn't working. But it's the damn campaign

My legendary progress

Why is there a gap? I played the playlist from start to finish. Every level on legendary.

Oh I know why. The game thinks I played co-op

What a disaster. Now I have to play this shit again (and probably Shutdown too now that I notice it is only marked off as heroic). egh

And on the talk of death threats. They're ridiculous. I know I'm salty but I'd never go that far.

 

[Fahzgoolin]

It is done! Finished all the campaigns on legendary. Midnight and Composer in Halo 4 are nice levels. Rest of the game, particularly the middle section is pretty awful though. But I've complained about that enough

I think for me it still goes Halo CE > Halo 2 = Halo 3 >> Halo 4 in terms of enjoyment

edit. oh it didn't record my progress on one of the levels /sobs into a pillow. Why

Exact sane thing happened to me... Sacred icon on halo 2 legendary won't record for me.

Look at your career and see which level based achievement didn't unlock.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I think what it boils down to is that you want not-Halo 2. Halo 2 is basically defined by the BR and what you get with the Carbine on this version is some weird sub-game that is certainly different but not any better.

I don't think it's an improvement, and comparing to CE is useless because the entire sandbox is still completely different. If faster utility kill times were everything (and a faster kill time is the only substantial difference), why not SWAT with power weapons or half-shield BRs?

Carbine kills feel very cheap to me anyway because the RoF means aiming is not important compared to other utilities like, say, the CE magnum. It also erases the beauty of single-shot weapons because the optimal use is to spam it into someone's anything.

I don't disagree with anything in this post lol, but I still find Halo 2 to be more enjoyable with the Carbine, and isn't that the point of a game? People seem to be enjoying CE and don't view it as this broken mess as many once did, so maybe this would lead to more people enjoying Halo 2. We have been seeing people say it's not as fun as they remember, and obviously the BR is a big part of that since it's the weapon used a majority of the time.

Just saying, I'm not a crazy old woman with 99 cats who creates prophecies. Maybe the things I like are what the people like, whether it's in the now or realized later in the future. Perhaps I have the opinion of all opinions, the one opinion to rule them all? ;]

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

You don't

 

[YourExWife]

I think what it boils down to is that you want not-Halo 2. Halo 2 is basically defined by the BR and what you get with the Carbine on this version is some weird sub-game that is certainly different but not any better.

I don't think it's an improvement, and comparing to CE is useless because the entire sandbox is still completely different. If faster utility kill times were everything (and a faster kill time is the only substantial difference), why not SWAT with power weapons or half-shield BRs?

Carbine kills feel very cheap to me anyway because the RoF means aiming is not important compared to other utilities like, say, the CE magnum. It also erases the beauty of single-shot weapons because the optimal use is to spam it into someone's anything.

I don't disagree with anything in this post lol, but I still find Halo 2 to be more enjoyable with the Carbine, and isn't that the point of a game? People seem to be enjoying CE and don't view it as this broken mess as many once did, so maybe this would lead to more people enjoying Halo 2. We have been seeing people say it's not as fun as they remember, and obviously the BR is a big part of that since it's the weapon used a majority of the time.

Just saying, I'm not a crazy old woman with 99 cats who creates prophecies. Maybe the things I like are what the people like, whether it's in the now or realized later in the future. Perhaps I have the opinion of all opinions, the one opinion to rule them all? ;]

Even with the broken H2V version, it might still be somewhat balanced. But again, only if we're not talking about Halo 2. The fact that you never have to stop firing this epic death machine until you literally have nothing left makes most of your points moot, in my opinion. Might it still be ok to have Carbine starts? Sure, just not *this* carbine. Bottomless clip makes it more ridiculous than many power weapons. Does it take more skill than the BR? Not really. Especially when the whole motivation for getting headshots is gone.

 

[Ramirez]

Why are you guys discussing Carbine starts?

 

[Ramirez]

Exactly. Let's talk about SMG starts.

Plasma Rifles you mean, the definitive Midship experience.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Even with the broken H2V version, it might still be somewhat balanced. But again, only if we're not talking about Halo 2. The fact that you never have to stop firing this epic death machine until you literally have nothing left makes most of your points moot, in my opinion. Might it still be ok to have Carbine starts? Sure, just not *this* carbine. Bottomless clip makes it more ridiculous than many power weapons. Does it take more skill than the BR? Not really. Especially when the whole motivation for getting headshots is gone.

It's like this Carbine was ripped from Unreal Tournament! I'm telling you man, the best things in Halo come from accidents and mistakes*

Exactly. Let's talk about SMG starts.

Too soon.

 

[-Ryn]

It is done! Finished all the campaigns on legendary. Midnight and Composer in Halo 4 are nice levels. Rest of the game, particularly the middle section is pretty awful though. But I've complained about that enough

I think for me it still goes Halo CE > Halo 2 = Halo 3 >> Halo 4 in terms of enjoyment

edit. oh it didn't record my progress on one of the levels /sobs into a pillow. Why

Spoiler

Well except for that edit... *pats back*

 

[Fahzgoolin]

Matchmaking game found after 15 minutes of waiting.

Game load screen.

Game crashes out of matchmaking.

I'm a party leader with 6 other people.

Play hang em high and it's horribly laggy.

Game ends and someone else is session leader.

Refund please.

 

[Booshka]

Save edit bug got fixed, I'm amazed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141181564&postcount=63

 

[dwells]

And on the talk of death threats. They're ridiculous. I know I'm salty but I'd never go that far.

For real - I'm so salty I'm no longer a carbon based lifeform and am instead a sodium-based lifeform, and even I'm not tossing death threats around.

Save edit bug got fixed, I'm amazed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141181564&postcount=63

I noticed this earlier today when I clicked save and everything was the way it should be before I could go refresh the page. I was confused.

 

[Kibbles]

Frankie is getting death threats, I really hate some parts of the "gaming" community -_-

Seriously that stuff it's not cool.

From who?

 

[buddha0991]

Plasma Rifles you mean, the definitive Midship experience.

HOW BOUT H2A SCOPED SMG STARTS HURR

 

[wwm0nkey]

From who?

He posted about it in the other thread, it's a damn shame.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

He posted about it in the other thread, it's a damn shame.

Its pathetic. People really need to get a grip. Its just a game people. Thats all it is - a game.

 

[NobleGundam]

Why are you guys discussing Carbine starts?

Carbine is god tier in H3 vs the BR

 

[Ramirez]

Its pathetic. People really need to get a grip. Its just a game people. Thats all it is - a game.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141064969&postcount=7749

Halo is life

^

The beta Carbine, sure, lol.

 

[Nintendont]

Halo 5 GAMEPLAY - 1 HOUR Halo 5: Guardians Beta Gameplay from GreenSkull

That doesn't look or sound like Halo at all...

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Plasma Rifles you mean, the definitive Midship experience.

Exactly. Let's talk about SMG starts.

Obviously SMG starts with Plasma Rifle secondary is the way to move Halo forward. On map weapons should be swords and sentinel beams.

 

[User 73706]

Obviously SMG starts with Plasma Rifle secondary is the way to move Halo forward. On map weapons should be swords and sentinel beams.

You rang?

 

[Granadier]

Matchmaking game found after 15 minutes of waiting.

Game load screen.

Game crashes out of matchmaking.

I'm a party leader with 6 other people.

Play hang em high and it's horribly laggy.

Game ends and someone else is session leader.

Refund please.

enjoy this instead

I'll be honest, I think Breakout looks funs. Also Kazuma's match intro music is kinda great.

I think Breakout looks like a lot of fun as well.

Save edit bug got fixed, I'm amazed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141181564&postcount=63

Was this where you would have to refresh the page for the save edit to go through?
edit: mmm, if so it works like butter now.
edit2: dat smooth edit doe

 

[Deputy Moonman]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141064969&postcount=7749

Halo is life

^

The beta Carbine, sure, lol.

Haha i saw that earlier. Love that gif.

 

[Ramirez]

I'll be honest, I think Breakout looks funs. Also Kazuma's match intro music is kinda great. It's like a Mass Effect version of In Amber Clad.

What's that, can't hear you over that gurgling.

 

[User 73706]

You should probably take it out of your mouth then.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

You should probably take it out of your mouth then.

handle ya business ya bish

 

[Cow]

I have a feeling this is the patch.

I hope you're right. I really do.

 

[Granadier]

what the fuck is happening

edit because AJAX is fixed: How many of you are playing Titanfall while MCC is down?

 

[Son of Sam]

Halo 5 GAMEPLAY - 1 HOUR Halo 5: Guardians Beta Gameplay from GreenSkull

It's solid gameplay. I'm mad the poster didn't show us hover or slide. Did he really need to go all balls out and focus on his k/d instead of showing us everything? wtf.

Anyways, there's a few things i really don't like or i'm tired of:

1. Announcer is too much like Halo 4. It's boring.
2. The BR and other things sound like Halo 4. Boring and brings back bad memories.
3. The whole Red Vs Blue is tiresome. Couldn't they do something else? or maybe have lights omitting from the armor indicating red or blue but leave the spartans with darker colors?
4. Even with the new additions it's going to be interesting to see how this compares in terms of freshness when games like Titanfall, Destiny, and COD have added similar or better elements to the movement.

Overall, i'm still excited for the beta.

 

[Mix]

MCC is a ton of fun when it works.

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

@ this thread

 

[CliQ]

I hope you're right. I really do.

Is MCC down right now? Confused

 

[Deception]

Is MCC down right now? Confused

XBL in general is down right now

 

[Ramirez]

Look at that hog yall

 

[GringoSuave89]

It's solid gameplay. I'm mad the poster didn't show us hover or slide. Did he really need to go all balls out and focus on his k/d instead of showing us everything? wtf.

Anyways, there's a few things i really don't like or i'm tired of:

1. Announcer is too much like Halo 4. It's boring.
2. The BR and other things sound like Halo 4. Boring and brings back bad memories.
3. The whole Red Vs Blue is tiresome. Couldn't they do something else? or maybe have lights omitting from the armor indicating red or blue but leave the spartans with darker colors?
4. Even with the new additions it's going to be interesting to see how this compares in terms of freshness when games like Titanfall, Destiny, and COD have added similar or better elements to the movement.

Overall, i'm still excited for the beta.

RvB is pretty iconic in terms of Halo. It will never, and should never, be changed.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

RvB is pretty iconic in terms of Halo. It will never, and should never, be changed.

Agreed, the visual clarity and flow on effects from those design/gameplay elements are core Halo for me. It elevates the multiplayer for me, clean and simple.