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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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There's a reason they don't have super dark armor as an option anymore, it lets players hide themselves in the shadow too easily, and then everyone optimizes by going with dark colors, so you just wasted time implementing color choices in.
Although it was funny in Halo 2 that due to how the Elite armor colors worked, if your secondary armor color was set up a certain way, an Elite looked like they were on both teams
Although it was funny in Halo 2 that due to how the Elite armor colors worked, if your secondary armor color was set up a certain way, an Elite looked like they were on both teams
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Hol' up hol' up hol' up, we gon' do it like this, OK? I'mma tell you where I'm from, OK? You gon' tell me where you from, OK? Or where your Grandma stay, where your mama stay, or where your daddy stay, OK?
Just rewatched all the Greenskull gameplay and I think the game looks really really fun, the only thing that's reall bothering me right now is the sound design. The shields and the weapons are the biggest offenders. I hate the high pitch ping with hitmarkers, I don't like that the BR sounds like it's firing one shot when it's firing 3, and I think I've changed my mind a bit on the Spartans talking to one another, it's okay for the big things, but the power weapon announcements, the constant chatter, and the pointless "good aim" are all really annoying. Cut it down to things like, one shot in blue hall or something like that, I swear I heard "there's one in red yard" like 5 times within a minute at the beginning.
But then again, there are elements that I like, such as Steizer isn't as bad as he was in Halo 4 and the grenades have a really heavy, beefy ring to them when they hit the ground which is super cool.
I love that the scope on the sniper rifle doesn't give off the ADS vibe, but at the same time, I think I'm starting to like the new BR zoom (which has increased from 2x to 2.5x) and the pistol and SMG. Still not too fond of the AR zoom. The SMG needs a nerf IMO, it looks way too strong, the AR looks like it finally fits well in the sandbox, and the DMR doesn't seem quite as OP as it's H4 iteration.
EDIT: Also, if I'm being nit picky, I think that if you start to sprint after the cool down is up and your shields aren't done recharging, they should stop and have to cool down again. It's all supposed to be tied to the suit, so it should work that way.
Overall, very excited about the beta. It's only 28 days away!
But then again, there are elements that I like, such as Steizer isn't as bad as he was in Halo 4 and the grenades have a really heavy, beefy ring to them when they hit the ground which is super cool.
I love that the scope on the sniper rifle doesn't give off the ADS vibe, but at the same time, I think I'm starting to like the new BR zoom (which has increased from 2x to 2.5x) and the pistol and SMG. Still not too fond of the AR zoom. The SMG needs a nerf IMO, it looks way too strong, the AR looks like it finally fits well in the sandbox, and the DMR doesn't seem quite as OP as it's H4 iteration.
EDIT: Also, if I'm being nit picky, I think that if you start to sprint after the cool down is up and your shields aren't done recharging, they should stop and have to cool down again. It's all supposed to be tied to the suit, so it should work that way.
Overall, very excited about the beta. It's only 28 days away!
Son of Sam
Banned
Yah i know but fuck i always wanted a more modern looking halo and that's never going to happen when they look like plastic toys.
TheOhrenberger.
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Halo needs to evolve
Son of Sam
Banned
Not necessarily brown and gray but realistic. I thought Halo in the next gen was going to look like their live action pieces directed by Neil Blomkamp. Something real and gritty.
This arcady look is weak.
Prinz Eugn
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GringoSuave89
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I'm happy that the skybox is more active, and that the maps look like they're active environments. That's all the modern I need design-wise.
I'm not at all crazy over the victory poses, but hopefully those are customizable so I can have one less douche. Sadly, with how Spartan IVs are being portrayed, it's gonna be the norm. Thankfully Locke's team looks appropriately badass.
Halo has never been gritty grimdark. It's been (mostly) the most colorful M-rated shooter out there.
Player color schemes have actual gameplay implications to them. If you make everyone super busy and dark, you're going to have a shit time being able to pick out targets and play the game.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
nigga you and your opinions aint shit
I agree on this one, I feel like spartan models took a step back in Halo 4. You could have darker/grittier underlying armour that is lined with red or blue lights and visors. This would give it a more realistic feel yet make it very distinctive where a player is and what team they are on.
It really is a minor issue though.
Prinz Eugn
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Modern-looking or just-like-every-other-shooter looking?
What I mean to say is, your opinion should be shot into the sun and a monument erected to remind us that our days will never be as graced with Bad as they are now with it lingering here.
Son of Sam
Banned
Yah i never understood why this couldn't be done.
Why does real mean like every other shooter? There's different aesthetic that can look real without looking like everything out there. What a silly notion.
Nade hitmarkers need to go.
Welp. Off with its head, I say.
Son of Sam
Banned
Nah bro. Sorry. Halo is like if Tron decided to stick to the 1980s look lol instead of modernizing
Halo
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Welfare
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That bottom one looks generic as fuck. Sorry, but no.Nah bro. Sorry. Halo is like if Tron decided to stick to the 1980s look lol instead of modernizing
Halo
Everything else
It doesn't have to be no bright colours. They could just do the whole red vs blue thing better. I'd be all for dark spartans with armour lined with bright blue/red lights and respective visor colours as mentioned before. Halo 5 spartans look too much like Halo 4 to me.
A side note: The animation in that new game type where they jump through the air and pull the gun out is really bad... cool idea executed in a way that just looks lame.
Positives of Halo 5 is that the aiming seems difficult, descope is back and emphasis is on weapon control.
Son of Sam
Banned
hahaaha it's keeping with tradition while making things look more sleek, or ya know, modern.
i'm not even going to ask you about your preference in clothing, i don't want to know.
Welfare
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The best.
I know people don't want Halo to be Halo anymore, but come on.
And I will never take an argument seriously if all you say is "modernization".
You're arguing with yourself now.
Halo is doing exactly what this sentence is saying.
Reporting on a fix before it's live.
Good on you IGN.
The hell is this?
why does Halo need to become more generic? "Ugh, it's not like battlefield or CAWD, Why can't I go prone, where's my uav kill streak?" Modernization is something that is all fine and dandy with other shooters, but has not place in Halo. Halo isn't supposed to be hyper-realistic, it's supposed to be ridiculous arena style fun.
no, I think they're jumping the gun on this week's
That's what I've been saying. Increase the movement and strafe speed and then have the universal abilities, remove sprint. This way, it gives greater weight to pulling a thrust forward or backward, a charge/dash/slide, etc.
You'd have no need for these much larger maps, or the no shield recharge stuff.
Come on man.
Art style is one thing. Changes to core mechanics is another.
I'm all for keeping Halo's core gameplay mechanics traditional, I despise sprint and the armour ability introductions. However, there is always room for improvement in art style and the trends in what people like in art styles change a lot faster than the type of game they like to play. In sports you often see teams changing their colour and kit style, the game itself rarely changes. 343 should be more ambitious with the spartan model and map aesthetics, and tweak existing mechanics until we are left with the perfect version of the game we love. Efforts such as that new map with the grid floor should be welcomed. That looks fresh and new. Armour abilities are a radical change, look gimmicky and annoying.
My hope is that 343 is listening and will at least test this sort of setup out in a playlist or something during the beta.
I have a feeling that this would create some truly epic gameplay.
Prinz Eugn
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For one, "real" is a useless benchmark for games. You need the game to be fun and visually comprehensible not be "real". Red and Blue work fantastically well for differentiating teams and there is zero reason to change it. Most people aren't playing multiplayer to feel immersed as a supersoldier and if they are 343i has obviously created this lored-up framework of spartan training if people are so inclined anyway.
Two, whenever someone brings up the idea of "realistic" aesthetics they are usually thinking of Call of Duty. Or Battlefield. Or Titanfall. Or even Gears. Because what they are really thinking of is this largely fad-driven trend towards "grittiness" exemplified by muted desaturated colors which negatively affect gameplay for the sake of feeling almost-sort-of-vaguely like Saving Private Ryan.
Not only does this not do anything for the gameplay, but the Halo series has built a marketing niche around being a shooter that's not throwing dirt in your fucking face and pretending like you lived in a world directed Michael Bay. Actual color has been a hallmark of the universe for some time. Hell, just compare the boxes of Halo Megabloks to the Call of Duty ones. Halo's look works largely because it looks different, especially in the current market.
Three, if you want to start talking about realism in the Halo universe, I would recommend against it because it's useless. Realistic Halo combat would be you spawn and get glassed from Orbit. The End.
Not only are your opinions not-good, but your understanding of aesthetics is fundamentally shaky.
NobleGundam
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I'd get the whole gray and brown and the odd choices of tints being used in Halo maps.. but complaining over the RvB theme is pretty sad.
hahaaha it's keeping with tradition while making things look more sleek, or ya know, modern.
i'm not even going to ask you about your preference in clothing, i don't want to know.
How the heck is this not sleek, modern and yet keeping with tradition? Wait till the game is done and the armor is fully textured.
We're talking about a game set almost 600 years in the future with aliens, plasma weapons, and 7 foot supersoldiers.
Son of Sam
Banned
My apologies man i didn't major in textiles.
Halo's look is dated. They haven't tried anything remotely interesting, would you argue that they have? I can't sit here and get into deep conversation with you about color pallets and off shades of purple. i just think Halo hasn't done enough to look up to par with everything else out there.
NobleGundam
Banned
It looks like plastic. I would've liked variations of Locke's armour from what we've seen so far. Dark grey, lined with lights from colour of respective teams, but perhaps a bit more obvious than this (e.g.. lighting on the legs, arms and helmet as well):
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
Not enough brown
How the heck is this not sleek, modern and yet keeping with tradition? Wait till the game is done and the armor is fully textured.
We're talking about a game set almost 600 years in the future with aliens, plasma weapons, and 7 foot supersoldiers.
Aesthetics are one thing but the gameplay is king. Players can distinguish a red or blue player against a background far better than a neutral colored player against a background. If you have the neutral colors, players rely too heavily on the color of the reticle instead of other potential threats.
Son of Sam
Banned
It looks like plastic. I would've liked variations of Locke's armour from what we've seen so far. Dark grey, lined with lights from colour of respective teams, but perhaps a bit more obvious than this (e.g.. lighting on the legs, arms and helmet as well):
Yah, why couldn't we have gotten that in Multi? Instead we get shiny arcady looking plastic. Not even a good plastic look like say Portal, no. We get something out of Toys R US.
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