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[TTUVAPOR]

This happened last night.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Sweet match on Blackout - http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=...n Ce&vid=dc26796a-c2ed-421d-be1f-57c47c018dff

that is some seriously awesome lag. maybe the host was using satellite internet or something.

Part of the issue with Halo 1 is even if you're wanting to slowly move forward, Chief always animates at full running speed

"lemme sneak up on this grunt 2 feet away from me"

*HUFF HUFF HUFF*

I wonder if he takes a whiz standing still or if it's some sort of tribal dance magic.

 

[DJ Lushious]

I actually have more trouble with the section after it, with the invisible Elites, due to how you have to position yourself in the hallways and how the enemy spawns function in that part. Truly awful.

As for the previous section which you're talking about, I think it's mostly about ammo conservation in the early parts of the level, making sure you still have some sniper ammo left to take out some of the elites. I don't think it's necessary to have the sniper for the hunters as CE hunters are pretty easy to take down, even just with grenades. There are little weapon caches lying around on the floor near the grav-lift, so make sure to stock up in between waves. If there is a pistol around then obviously don't worry about the sniper ammo for the hunters since they are a one-shot with the pistol.

I'm more of a Halo 2 Legendary runner, but I remember this part well enough that I hope that is vaguely helpful.

If there were a pistol, I'd be so happy. [insert Clyde from South Park image]

I posted this in the Master Chief Collection thread, but it pretty much sums up how I'm lookin gat my back-back Halo Legendary runs.

Even though I am disappointed to hear about the framerate issues, I am looking forward to playing through the campaigns in 1080p. I normally play through the campaigns solo on Legendary once very year or two, and I am definitely overdue. However, there are a number of areas throughout the game that I am not looking forward to, as they can be pretty grueling on Legendary. They are, off the top of my head, and in order:

Halo: CE

• Defending the first downed Pelican in Halo.
• Fighting the Hunters before boarding Truth and Reconciliation in Truth and Reconciliation.
• The first room after boarding Truth in Truth and Reconciliation.
• The first large-scale battle in Assault on the Control room, before getting the scorpion tank.
• The run up to Keyes and then the room Keyes is in, on the level Keyes.

Halo 2

• The docking bay in Cairo Station.
• Any time there is a Jackal sniper in Outskirts.
• The preceding the scarab in Metropolis.
• Pretty much the whole level Regret.
• The first area of Gravemind.
• The whole banshee part of The Great Journey.
• Tartarus.

Halo 3
Now I don't remember too much of Halo 3's Legendary campaign being as frustrating as the previous two games. Just a few parts really stick out in my mind as being rough.

• The final area of Sierra 117, before being exfiltrated.
• Any time there's Drones in Crow's Nest.
• The open area before getting on the final bit of highway to the cannon in Tsavo Highway.
• The final push on the anti-aircraft cannon in Tsavo Highway.
• Dealing with the stalker forms of the flood in Cortana.
• The first big area near the beginning of Halo.

Halo 4

• I don't remember the exact order of it, but it's a big area in Requiem with three buildings and lots of Prometheans and Covenant. I believe you can get a ghost.
• The big area in Infinity before meeting with Palmer.
• All of Reclaimer. Seriously, this level was brutal.
• There's a big open area in Composer that features a lot of Prometheans. And you can fall to your death.
• Any time you have to fight the constant waves of Promethan crawlers and the final area of Midnight.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

If there were a pistol, I'd be so happy. [insert Clyde from South Park image]

I posted this in the Master Chief Collection thread, but it pretty much sums up how I'm lookin gat my back-back Halo Legendary runs.

I've only played through CE's campaign so far and only did it on heroic. I'm pacing myself. Will probably go through on Legendary when i have a couple more days off from work and then begin H2A, which I'm looking forward to oddly enough. Halo 2 was one of my least campaigns only ahead of Reach's campaign.

 

[Zoolader]

Somebody with MCC please help this girl finish the last mission in Halo Anniversary. She got to the driving part and the game disconnected at the very end. She is horrible at playing. http://www.twitch.tv/himechar

 

[Mix]

I got into about 3 matches this morning after my rank mysteriously reset itself from 3 to 1. Now I can't get into a match. Waiting about 4 minutes each time before I back out and retry.

EDIT: OKAY, What the fuck 343. Why will campaign not save? This is probably the third time I've tried to get back into a campaign mission and had to completely restart. what the fuck guys, seriously.

okay, I'm cool now.

 

[DopeyFish]

The one thing I find pretty funny is I think the game triggers P2P when only one person has a bad connection. Then that person tends to become the host just because.

 

[Impala26]

I got into about 3 matches this morning after my rank mysteriously reset itself from 3 to 1. Now I can't get into a match. Waiting about 4 minutes each time before I back out and retry.

Mix, do we want to just try to assemble HaloGAF folks into a party and then jump into like BTB matchmaking or something tonight/this weekend? I feel like right now the netcode is having horrible issues with P2P hosting with more than 8 players.

I could be wrong though...

 

[Tawpgun]

CE movement is bad. This is fact!

I don't like the way grenades can get lauched by other grenades and have their timers reset and stuff.

Ce strafe and horizontal movement is fine but any time you have to traverse uneven ground or jump on shit it's annoying.

 

[RoKKeR]

Posted this in the other thread but MCC already seeing a population dropoff... fifth most played game on XBL right now, behind Destiny and Unity.

Maybe it's early in the day but man... #wenotback

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

So...is MM any better? I wasn't able to get into a single match yesterday.

This happened last night.

Holy shit. :lol

Posted this in the other thread but MCC already seeing a population dropoff... fifth most played game on XBL right now, behind Destiny and Unity.

Maybe it's early in the day but man... #wenotback

The games broken. Most people can't play it even if they want to.

I really hope this doesn't kill MCCs longevity.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Posted this in the other thread but MCC already seeing a population dropoff... fifth most played game on XBL right now, behind Destiny and Unity.

Maybe it's early in the day but man... #wenotback

Is it really surprising though? I suspect a lot of people are going to wait until the kinks get straightened out and then go back.

 

[jem0208]

Posted this in the other thread but MCC already seeing a population dropoff... fifth most played game on XBL right now, behind Destiny and Unity.

Maybe it's early in the day but man... #wenotback

Well, considering it doesn't really work it's kinda understandable.

 

[TheOhrenberger.]

Is it really surprising though? I suspect a lot of people are going to wait until the kinks get straightened out and then go back.

I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people aren't coming back.

 

[Caja 117]

New bug

In the post game carnage report, after clicking on my two friends tags to see their individual stats, it says that 'mac5wayne killed mac5wayne the most' and that 'cpt flank em was killed most by cpt flank em'

12 year old coders at 343?

Nah, if its anythng related to conecting online, It should not come as a surprise to see bugs around it.

Posted this in the other thread but MCC already seeing a population dropoff... fifth most played game on XBL right now, behind Destiny and Unity.

Maybe it's early in the day but man... #wenotback

Where can we see this information?

 

[tootsi666]

I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people aren't coming back.

Yep. They have already formed their opinions. Game is broken and they don't have time for broken games.

 

[RoKKeR]

The games broken. Most people can't play it even if they want to.

I really hope this doesn't kill MCCs longevity.

Is it really surprising though? I suspect a lot of people are going to wait until the kinks get straightened out and then go back.

Well, considering it doesn't really work it's kinda understandable.

Where can we see this information?

All true, but no less disappointing. This was the big return for Halo on the new generation and there are already more people back to Destiny. Oy. It will undoubtedly hurt the game's longevity, which pisses me off because that means it will be harder to find games in specific playlists as they add more going forward.


Also you can see this in the "Top Played" section of the Store. Doesn't give numbers but it gives activity rankings that update frequently.

 

[CloudyTuba]

CE movement is bad. This is fact!

I don't like the way grenades can get lauched by other grenades and have their timers reset and stuff.

Ce strafe and horizontal movement is fine but any time you have to traverse uneven ground or jump on shit it's annoying.

I always liked this. It came in handy in a few very specific instances. I'd use one plasma to launch another plasma at a strange angle.

This happened last night.

Got a laugh out of me.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

What really, really sucks is that MCC isn't the type of game that can use DLC to pull people back in.

MCC will likely not hold as strong population numbers because of this mess, and I hope 343 and MS do not interpret that as classic Halo losing its appeal.

 

[Mix]

They shoud get CA to release more maps and pair it with a rerelease where if you already have MCC you get them for free and others get them when they buy the rereleased copy. this is getting hard to defend.

 

[Havoc2049]

This happened last night.

Hahaha...good one Vapor.

Is online campaign co-op still broken?

I've gone back to Destiny multiplayer...that is how much this game is broken. ;-(

 

[The Flash]

They shoud get CA to release more maps and pair it with a rerelease where if you already have MCC you get them for free and others get them when they buy the rereleased copy. this is getting hard to defend.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get compensated in some form.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people aren't coming back.

I really want you to be wrong, but you're probably right. Either way, I feel like it's their loss. People who can't play a game for a week giving up on a game entirely, potentially missing out on months of entertainment for a game they really wanted to play?

 

[CloudyTuba]

This happened last night.

Just for the fun of it.

 

[Poodlestrike]

They shoud get CA to release more maps and pair it with a rerelease where if you already have MCC you get them for free and others get them when they buy the rereleased copy. this is getting hard to defend.

Was just about to say this. I know that DLC wasn't originally in the cards, but they'll need some sort of hook to get people to come back.

 

[VinFTW]

I really want you to be wrong, but you're probably right. Either way, I feel like it's their loss. People who can't play a game for a week giving up on a game entirely, potentially missing out on months of entertainment for a game they really wanted to play?

Solution is simple, offer a new remastered map as an apology.

Commercial: Now play the Midship remake for free as a thank you to fans!

 

[WJD]

Feels like nothing works at the first attempt with this...

Don't even dare touch single player until I can be sure my save file isn't going to go the way of Halo 4.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Solution is simple, offer a new remastered map as an apology.

Commercial: Now play the Midship remake for free as a thank you to fans!

A new map would be cool actually, but please for the love of Odin, no more midship remakes. Heretic came up the other day in matchmaking and everyone voted for it over the better Halo CE and 2 map alternatives. Ugh.. I'm hoping for either a Terminal or Colossus remake at some point personally :3

 

[VinFTW]

A new map would be cool actually, but please for the love of Odin, no more midship remakes. Heretic came up the other day in matchmaking and everyone voted for it over the better Halo CE and 2 map alternatives. Ugh.. I'm hoping for either a Terminal or Colossus remake personally :3

Any map would do, friend.

Just an example

Spoiler

terminal, 343 pliss.

 

[Poodlestrike]

A new map would be cool actually, but please for the love of Odin, no more midship remakes. Heretic came up the other day in matchmaking and everyone voted for it over the better Halo CE and 2 map alternatives. Ugh.. I'm hoping for either a Terminal or Colossus remake at some point personally :3

Yup. I'd much prefer another BTB map.

 

[TTUVAPOR]

Just for the fun of it.

Yes!!!!!

 

[Rev3rb]

They shoud get CA to release more maps and pair it with a rerelease where if you already have MCC you get them for free and others get them when they buy the rereleased copy. this is getting hard to defend.

Yeah, definitely sounds like a possibility at this point...

 

[CloudyTuba]

Bungie gave us maps for free but I don't think it will happen with 343. Though I do like the idea, it would certainly help coax people back and publicize that the game is fixed.

Whenever the game actually is fixed they should consider it.

Yup. I'd much prefer another BTB map.

Me, too. I love BTB.

 

[Defect]

Whenever I see someone walking in a straight line, I think they are a hologram.

 

[Eric WK]

Hey CyReN,

Any ETA on when the new Bomb Planted will be on Youtube?

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Bungie gave us maps for free but I don't think it will happen with 343. Though I do like the idea, it would certainly help coax people back and publicize that the game is fixed.

Whenever the game actually is fixed they should consider it.



Me, too. I love BTB.

They really need to do free maps. Why not bring in cosmetic micro-transactions like league of legends. Cool armor and weapon skins. You know people would pay for stuff like that.

 

[Ramirez]

Sucks, but I think I'm done trying til next week when they hopefully roll out a patch to fix this mess.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Between...



...and (from MCC OT)...



...this morning I can't, I just can't...XD

Nothing will ever top this, the controller designed for 3 hands.

This happened last night.

Thank you HaloGAF.

 

[willow ve]

With a game this broken I'm afraid we'll lose players who will never come back. BF4 was essentially broken at launch as well - that population never recovered.

 

[JonCha]

So far after backing out once and researching I've been finding games per Frank's advice.

 

[squidhands]

343 is built on an old Indian burial ground, it all makes sense now.

 

[Mesonak]

Honestly, yeah, I doubt the population will ever fully recover. A free remastered H2 map pack around December/January would certainly help get people back, I think. Time will tell if 343 decides to go that route, but it would certainly be a nice gesture of good will.

 

[Ramirez]

With a game this broken I'm afraid we'll lose players who will never come back. BF4 was essentially broken at launch as well - that population never recovered.

I played a lot of BF4, and never had an issue getting full games of Rush on X1.

People were hyped for this release, and there's nothing else coming this year FPS MP wise. Once it's fixed, people will come back. I don't buy that people will give up on their favorite Halo MPs forever because of a bad launch week.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I played a lot of BF4, and never had an issue getting full games of Rush on X1.

People were hyped for this release, and there's nothing else coming this year FPS MP wise. Once it's fixed, people will come back. I don't buy that people will give up on their favorite Halo MPs forever because of a bad launch week.

I'm inclined to agree with you. Hopefully there is a nice rebound in activity. When does the next update happen?

 

[Ramirez]

I'm inclined to agree with you. Hopefully there is a nice rebound in activity. When does the next update happen?

I think theres a patch coming today for non MM stuff, but I wouldn't expect a big patch to fix MM til next week. I'd love to be wrong, but not getting my hopes up.

 

[wwm0nkey]

I'm finding MP matches fast now. Well 2 min compared to 4

 

[TTUVAPOR]

I'm finding MP matches fast now. Well 2 min compared to 4

For anything unranked, it should practicality be instant. Look at cod, all unranked and its instant.

 

[TTUVAPOR]

By the way, the poltergeist scramble also happened on my nameplate in lobby... Really weird

 

[GringoSuave89]

So far after backing out once and researching I've been finding games per Frank's advice.

Ditto. Glad he posted that, it saves a lot of time that would have been wasted.

Apparently.something got updated and MM is working faster. I'll have to check when I get home.

Haha, the other two H2A armors are called Centurion and Hoplite. Nice touch.

 

[Domino Theory]

GG last night, Moonman. Cool to bump into GAFfers in the wild.