Gnome Scat
Member
Just saw Fury and that movie is what Reach should've been like.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
- Start date
What did you look through while aiming in Halo 5?
Wat?
Reach should have been set in WWII and involved Sherman tanks?
VisceralBowl
Member
A screen which portrayed the inside of a spartan helmet.
Gnome Scat
Member
Of course not, I meant the tone, characters, and story of it. I felt like in Reach they were aiming for that gritty, war vibe, but they fell way too short of it.
semantics
YourExWife
Member
Guys...
#Empowering
#FreeSBD
#Empowering
#FreeSBD
Please, your Spartan has finally realized that cybernetic linkage to his weapon is best used to Aim Down Sights. After years and years of playing Call of Duty, Spartans have evolved their technological meta game to look down a weapon's sight. Just looking through the scope is dated, inferior technology, we need to see the gun model we are shooting from.
Hardly, the mechanics generally associated with ADS are quite different to the system in 5.
What does the AR/SMG do when you enter Smart Scope™?
One could even say that they have advanced warfare beyond anything that has been seen up to this point.
Welfare
Member
Halo 5
Announcer: "Guardians! Pave your way to victory through Advanced Warfare tactics!"
Orochinagis
Member
ElzarTheBam
Member
Oh god. I don't think my mind is ready for another Jem roasting.
Puurrrfect.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Honestly, I think I gotta agree with Jem on this one. Smart Scope is, in the most technical definition of the word, not ADS. While it fulfills the literal definition (aiming down sights), the associated core mechanics are different enough to warrant a different name, IMO. No slowdown, descope instead of flinch (once they fix that), etc.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Hmm, sort of. I think it's basically watered-down ADS. It changes the accuracy, but only for some weapons. Tellingly, however, they moved it to the left trigger by default.
Let's go with "Visual ADS" instead of "functionally ADS" then.
Save tighter bullet spread, H5 smart scope is functionally identical to prior Halo games' scopes, but with a visual ADS look to them.
Bump and Jump user here, but still can't believe 343 thought this with the auto re scope was OK.
Tighter bullet spread was in past Halos as well
Poodlestrike
Banned
The default to left trigger muddles things, yeah. So I guess you could call it watered down ADS, but that takes longer to type than Smart Scope, so why not just go with the name?
Yeah, that's pretty accurate. And even the tightened spread has precedence in the silenced SMG, IIRC.
Welfare
Member
But that had a scope. EVERY other automatic didn't have one.
YourExWife
Member
Can't wait for the needler ADS scope to bring in the CoD money...
You know what's even easier than Smart Scope? ADS. Trying to jump through mental gymnastics on how it's similar to other games with ADS but different just muddles things as well.
As it stands right now, but default, hipfire has flinch, ADS on automatics has tighter spread, better accuracy and range over hipfire, while scoped you cannot jump around and shoot by default.
Poodlestrike
Banned
But now they do!
Seriously though, I see what you're getting at, and I have to say that I like the change. I get why it pisses some people off, but it moves automatic weapons out of garbage tier for the first time in a long time. A necessary evil, IMO.
Like I said, it's an accuracy thing. It's not exactly ADS, and it's clearly not the same as the old games, so why not go with what the devs call it? It's a new thing.
Wait, no, I take it back - no one lay off of Jem.
But now they do!
Seriously though, I see what you're getting at, and I have to say that I like the change. I get why it pisses some people off, but it moves automatic weapons out of garbage tier for the first time in a long time. A necessary evil, IMO.
Like I said, it's an accuracy thing. It's not exactly ADS, and it's clearly not the same as the old games, so why not go with what the devs call it? It's a new thing.
Because the devs don't want to call it what it is so as to try and portray it as something vastly different, or the reason that it's there has to do with immersion instead of flat out pandering to rival shooter fanbases.
Same reason why last page RowdyReverb said that they wouldn't give population counters and instead we could get graphs or countdowns giving us estimations. It's trying to purposely obfuscate what the truth is.
We know it's ADS, why it was added. I'm not going to use their PR buzzwords for it. Just like I don't call what they did in Halo 4 'specializations' and call them perks or why I say killcams instead of what they want to call it 'H-cam'.
FWIW, there's usually a perk in COD games that permit you to move at full speed while ADS.
Poodlestrike
Banned
The difference is that there's enough differences between COD-style ADS and what we got in Halo 5 to warrant a different name. It's not like with Halo 4's junk where it really was just a marketing distinction. They don't want to call it the same thing because it's not the same thing.
Huh, did not know that. Still, I think the point stands
Orochinagis
Member
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Non Smart Scope = Default Needler
Smart Scope = Needle Rifle
The money would print itself.Smart Scope = Needle Rifle
YourExWife
Member
This is the type of change I can get behind as "Smart Scope". Much better idea imo.
Poodlestrike
Banned
That'd be pretty legit. They'd probably change the design, tho. Maybe a needle rifle with a short barrel.
Prinz Eugn
Member
I'm not talking semantically, I just mean in terms of actual implementation. It's not just cosmetic, but it's also not full-blown CoD style ADS either.
The needler redesign is going to make me so mad, I just know it.
PROh1bited
Banned
Hmm, I like the idea of bringing back the needle rifle, but it would basically just be another variation of the DMR and carbine. Maybe if they gave it a 3 shot burst like the BR, than I would fully welcome the addition of the needle rifle.
Poodlestrike
Banned
That's what I'm saying; it's not COD-style ADS, it's not purely cosmetic, and it's sure as hell not the same as the old games. New name for new thing.
YourExWife
Member
Jem making play calls for the Seahawks?
That had to be the most intense final five minutes of any Super Bowl I've ever seen. I don't know what happened to the Seahawks, to go from that unbelievable catch and rallying all the way up the field, then to not use Lynch for some reason and throw for an interception, then start a fight and get ejected. Wow.
Too soon, too soon...
GringoSuave89
Banned
I'll never understand it. 343 must be crying.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Super oblique divine retribution for MCC?
I busted out laughing when they actually starting fighting.
I busted out laughing when they actually starting fighting.
It was crazy. that catch would've been one of the best in Super Bowl history of they had just let Lynch run the ball in at the end there. Instead it's gonna be forgotten and we'll all remember the idiotic play call that led to an interception instead of a win.
Jellycrackers
Member
Halogaf. Download my album I just released. It's totally free, 18 tracks, and lots of Halo-like music in it
Also, every year on super bowl Sunday I secretly hope for a Halo commercial
Also, every year on super bowl Sunday I secretly hope for a Halo commercial
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Halogaf. Download my album I just released. It's totally free, 18 tracks, and lots of Halo-like music in it
Also, every year on super bowl Sunday I secretly hope for a Halo commercial
We all do.
Poker Face
Member
GO PATS!!
Halo
Halo