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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm

Well, I was wrong. FUD is awesome. =D

Ill post more detailed impressions later, I wanna absorb it and think about it more.

I feel like the Mantis would be a much better fit on Meltdown than Valhalla.

Agreed, it seems absurd that Meltdown does not have the Mantis and Ragnarok does. Not just because of map size and flow, but it also seems weird to have a vehicle that is brand new on a remake.

Halo 4 feels barren in the vehicle department. I would still like to see a new air vehicle and a new land vehicle. One of these things should be forerunner.

Agreed. I don't think we are in for any more surprises unfortunately. Odds of the chopper being in are slim to none it seems.. And where are the UNSC air vehicles in MP? Most of all, no Forerunner vehicles is a huge disappointment.

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Amazing.

Question for Ellis or Frankie:

I know this is super nit-picky, but I'm curious. Why is there little similarity between the Lasky character in FUD and the character in the actual game? I mean, shouldn't they at least have the same haircut or something?

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Also, if I'm mistaken and one of these fellas isn't actually Lasky, my apologies. Also also, I don't mean to turn this into a "BUT THERE SHOULD BE DIFFERENT GRAVITY IN LOW ORBIT" type of thing. I'm just curious, that's all. First episode was great.

Yeah, it bugged me also. He doesn't look like young Lasky or game Lasky. Weird choice, but Ill live.
 

BigShow36

Member
There is Dexterity, and then there's all those other kinda "neat" stuff. Faster reloads AND weapon swapping, too good.

What they should have done is just given everyone faster weapon switching and reload by default. Then there would be a lot more use of those other perks. Right now, I see a few other perks that may get used a little, but in most games dexterity will be the way to go.
 

Tawpgun

Member
Also, I can't unsee Narnia whenever I watch FUD.

I'm going to be anticipating a huge lion to come out of nowhere are start smashing the covenant.
 
What they should have done is just given everyone faster weapon switching and reload by default. Then there would be a lot more use of those other perks. Right now, I see a few other perks that may get used a little, but in most games dexterity will be the way to go.

That's why I like that Sprint is universal now. In Reach, I think 90% of my AA choices were Sprint, and I know I wasn't alone on that. It was too versatile to sacrifice it for Boba Fett jetpacking or ArmorLockHero status.
 

Beckx

Member
I'm going to be anticipating a huge lion to come out of nowhere are start smashing the covenant.

What if the lion works for the Covenant?

Great journey, indeed.

What they should have done is just given everyone faster weapon switching and reload by default. Then there would be a lot more use of those other perks. Right now, I see a few other perks that may get used a little, but in most games dexterity will be the way to go.

I wonder if the system is flexible enough for them to make that kind of tweak after launch?

Edit: but see Duncan's post below, really the system is designed for thinking about multiple roles in many game types, it's really only a problem if things that on their face help, say, CTF never get used there.
 

dmg04

#DEADWRONG
It won't. H3 SWAT had no Carbine, Reach SWAT had no Needle Rifle (such a beautiful weapon). They're going to lock SWAT to one weapon.

I can see why the needle rifle wasn't included (it'd me annoying to get super combined constantly)

It'd be awesome to see the Carbine, DMR, Lightrifle, and BR appear.

Random note; I hate adele. I'm very disappointed they used her for the Skyfall song.
 
Thanks.

I think I'll go with Shielding and Dexterity.

Don't really see a reason to pick anything else.

After listening to the Sparkast, I think Shielding is a little less useful than I first imagined. (Which is probably a good thing.)

I'll probably have three or four main loadouts I swap between:

"Slayer"
BR
DMR
Frag
Firepower
Dexterity

"Vehicle Hunter"
BR
PP
Pulse grenades
Grenadier
Explosive

"Vehicle User"
Wheelman
Gunner

"Objective/Flag Runner"
Mobility (to get to the flag faster)
Sensor (assuming this passive mod works while holding the flag)
 
I was thinking about firepower to have an extra DMR in your backpocket, but I'm sure you can pick one up from one of the many dead guys you'll find.
 
I can see why the needle rifle wasn't included (it'd me annoying to get super combined constantly)

It'd be awesome to see the Carbine, DMR, Lightrifle, and BR appear.

Random note; I hate adele. I'm very disappointed they used her for the Skyfall song.

I'm not digging the song, but I won't deny that she is a good musician. They should of stuck with Chris Cornell, his "You Know My Name" song is great. I guess they weren't going for an edgy sound for the new film. Nothing beats Shirley Bassey's Bond work though.
 
Seriously, if someone could give me Grover Cleveland with a Spartan Laser, that would be my avi in a heartbeat.

Your avatar is awesome. Seanador, I'll definitely read your interview with Frankie.

Tashi, Domino, Duncan, Hyper, and Biggy, I've rented out the equipment for next week. I'm ready.

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Marantz, dead cat, 2 XLRs, 3 SD cards totaling 40 GB, shotgun microphone, and the boom pole.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
It won't. H3 SWAT had no Carbine, Reach SWAT had no Needle Rifle (such a beautiful weapon). They're going to lock SWAT to one weapon.
But Halo 3 didn't have loadouts, so that's kind of a moot point. Though I guesss they could have littered them around the maps. I dunno what the excuse for Reach is, but I definitely expect H4 SWAT to have some different rifle options.

Edit : Oh, wait. The reason the Needle Rife wasn't in SWAT is probably because of the easy supercombine.
 
This is awesome. Seanador, I'll definitely read your interview with Frankie.

Tashi, Domino, Duncan, Hyper, and Biggy, I've rented out the equipment for next week. I'm ready.

3hnL1.jpg


Marantz, dead cat, 2 XLRs, 3 SD cards totaling 40 GB, shotgun microphone, and the boom pole.
What type of shotgun mic? I'd like to test it out if thats okay. I'm looking to purchase one to start building a library of sounds.

I was looking at the Rhode NTG-1, but it sounds a little too thin for my liking.
 

nillapuddin

Member
(With Forward Unto Dawn definitely being more like a "movie" than a promo piece)

Is Halo: Landfall the greatest live-action video game short film/promo ever?
I honestly cannot think of a better one

I absolutely love it to pieces, just watched it again and I am still blown away by it,
the style of it is perfect.

I literally do not think they could have made a better piece
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
It is not about being politically correct it is about honoring the memory.


As far as being hypocritical like I just said it is all about context. I'm fine with jokes about immoral people but not about people who died innocently. The best way to think about whether or not a joke about a death is ok would go like this:
1)Was this person innocent? Did they die tragically? Was he or she a good person?
2)If this person was good or innocent think about how you would feel if you were a direct family member. Would you want people making jokes?

I stand by what I said.

Also "innocence" and "good" is subjective.
 

Overdoziz

Banned
I think Frankie said while we were playing SWAT on Reach that in Halo 4 you can bring whatever loadout you want into SWAT but the game will block off certain weapons/perks/abilities/specializations.
 
What type of shotgun mic? I'd like to test it out if thats okay. I'm looking to purchase one to start building a library of sounds.

I was looking at the Rhode NTG-1, but it sounds a little too thin for my liking.

By testing out you mean just playing around with it? That's fine. It's an Azden SGM 1X. I don't know about the Rode – never used a microphone from them. A quick Google search tells me it looks decent at least.
 
I think Frankie said while we were playing SWAT on Reach that in Halo 4 you can bring whatever loadout you want into SWAT but the game will block off certain weapons/perks/abilities/specializations.

Yeah and that it will be very clear as to what can and can't be used in those playlists.
 
(With Forward Unto Dawn definitely being more like a "movie" than a promo piece)

Is Halo: Landfall the greatest live-action video game short film/promo ever?
I honestly cannot think of a better one

I absolutely love it to pieces, just watched it again and I am still blown away by it,
the style of it is perfect.

I literally do not think they could have made a better piece

Landfall is great, but it always felt like a proof of concept piece rather than a promo piece or a short film. That said, it certainly looks and feels the most authentic, and it beats FUD in the practical effect department.
 
Awesome, Dax!

I'm not digging the song, but I won't deny that she is a good musician. They should of stuck with Chris Cornell, his "You Know My Name" song is great. I guess they weren't going for an edgy sound for the new film. Nothing beats Shirley Bassey's Bond work though.

I really like the Chris Cornell song. I dig Jack White's music, but his song with Alicia Keys for Quantum of Solace just sounded off-key to me during the chorus. Still better than the Madonna song for Die Another Day.

And yes, Shirley Bassey's songs are great, Goldfinger is my favorite of those.
 

nillapuddin

Member
Landfall is great, but it always felt like a proof of concept piece rather than a promo piece or a short film. That said, it certainly looks and feels the most authentic, and it beats FUD in the practical effect department.

I certainly wont disagree with that, I actually believe your correct

but a concept piece and a promo are not mutually exclusive

In this instance anyways, I feel like they congealed into an amazing short

as was my original question,
has there ever been another video game promoting piece that can compare?
 
I don't get the fascination with Firepower... I'd say mobility is much better in that slot or AA efficiency. If you really want a DMR or BR then you can just pick it up from someone you kill. Start DMR for the range then sprint to grab the dude's BR that you just slaughtered.
 

zlatko

Banned
From the FUD thread:

Okay so this is how much of what is written on the bed ceiling I uncovered:

From Earth. For Earth. Honor, Valor, Allegiance, Excellence. From Earth. For Earth. Today, Tomorrow, Forever. Together we rise, together we prevail. Forward Unto Dawn. From Earth. For Earth. Through ?, Victory, through, ?

And the rest is unknown to me.

Anyone have the full thing?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
From the FUD thread:

Okay so this is how much of what is written on the bed ceiling I uncovered:

From Earth. For Earth. Honor, Valor, Allegiance, Excellence. From Earth. For Earth. Today, Tomorrow, Forever. Together we rise, together we prevail. Forward Unto Dawn. From Earth. For Earth. Through ?, Victory, through, ?

And the rest is unknown to me.

Anyone have the full thing?

Through Knowledge, Victory
Through Unity, Peace
Honor, Valor, Allegiance.
Today Tomorrow, Forever,
Together We Rise.
Together We Prevail.
Forward Unto Dawn
From Earth, For Earth.
Honor, Valor, Allegiance, Excellence
Today. Tomorrow. Forever.
Together We Rise.
Together We Prevail.
Forward Unto Dawn.
From Earth, For Earth. Honor
Valor, Allegiance, Excellence

It just keeps repeating.

So the covenant actually have LESS vehicles in Halo 4 than in Halo 2, 3, or Reach and the same number as in Halo Combat Evolved??

It's back to: Ghost, Banshee, Wraith - no Chopper, Spectre, Prowler, Revenant?

Only ONE new vehicle (Mammoth = Elephant 2.0, doesn't count)??

And the Hornet is not returning either?

Are you fucking kidding me?? Goddamnit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DsPrEcvIvI
 
So the covenant actually have LESS vehicles in Halo 4 than in Halo 2, 3, or Reach and the same number as in Halo Combat Evolved??

It's back to: Ghost, Banshee, Wraith - no Chopper, Spectre, Prowler, Revenant?

Only ONE new vehicle (Mammoth = Elephant 2.0, doesn't count)??

And the Hornet is not returning either?

And no Falcon on the multiplayer maps?

Are you fucking kidding me?? Goddamnit.

I love the overwhelming majority of what 343i did with Halo 4, but toning the vehicular combat back down is just about the worst thing they could do.

What the fuck.
 

Havok

Member
So the covenant actually have LESS vehicles in Halo 4 than in Halo 2, 3, or Reach and the same number as in Halo Combat Evolved??

It's back to: Ghost, Banshee, Wraith - no Chopper, Spectre, Prowler, Revenant?

Only ONE new vehicle (Mammoth = Elephant 2.0, doesn't count)??

And the Hornet is not returning either?

Are you fucking kidding me?? Goddamnit.
Well, lets see. The Spectre, Prowler, and Revenant are all garbage vehicles, no loss there. The Chopper doesn't make sense given the composition of this enemy faction. The Hornet was only viable in multiplayer after a significant nerf, and consistency between single and multiplayer is something that Halo has always strived for.

Would you rather have a bloated count of kinda shitty vehicles, or a decent stable of well-balanced, well thought out vehicles?

I understand the sentiment, but really nailing the core, staple Halo vehicles is far more important than adding a bunch of fluff vehicles that nobody will ever want to use anyway.
 
So the covenant actually have LESS vehicles in Halo 4 than in Halo 2, 3, or Reach and the same number as in Halo Combat Evolved??

It's back to: Ghost, Banshee, Wraith - no Chopper, Spectre, Prowler, Revenant?

Only ONE new vehicle (Mammoth = Elephant 2.0, doesn't count)??

And the Hornet is not returning either?

Are you fucking kidding me?? Goddamnit.
Spoilers Covenant are not that big a focal point this time around.
 

feel

Member
I really enjoyed the first episode, very well done IMO, good work 343i. Really wish I could watch the entire thing in one go right now.

Will make sure to download the other episodes in HD and watch on my sofa, instead of on a tiny window on my desktop.

That Frankie gif you're all trying to run into the ground in record time, where did it come from?

edit- deal with it needs to go in the frame where he's moving his mouth you damn amateurs, it even looks like he's saying it
 
Well, lets see. The Spectre, Prowler, and Revenant are all garbage vehicles, no loss there.
No u.
The Prowler was crap, yeah, but the other two totally rocked.

The Chopper doesn't make sense given the composition of this enemy faction.
They could easily have made a new vehicle that functions like the chopper but is from the sangheili or forerunner.

Spoilers Covenant are not that big a focal point this time around.
Well, then give me forerunner vehicles then. Or more human vehicles. I'm really disappointed that there are less vehicles in this than in Halo 3.
 

Gray Man

Banned
Well, lets see. The Spectre, Prowler, and Revenant are all garbage vehicles, no loss there. The Chopper doesn't make sense given the composition of this enemy faction. The Hornet was only viable in multiplayer after a significant nerf, and consistency between single and multiplayer is something that Halo has always strived for.

Would you rather have a bloated count of kinda shitty vehicles, or a decent stable of well-balanced, well thought out vehicles?

While I don't agree with him on everything there, and I'm all for refinement of the sandbox as a whole, I think including one new ground vehicle, and one new air vehicle, both being forerunner, would make a whole lot of sense.

I'm still holding out for at least one Forerunner vehicle but lets be honest, we get the Promethean enemies. New bad guy, check. We get the Promethean weaponry. New Guns Check. shouldn't we get some sort of bad ass Promethean vehicle?
 
I certainly wont disagree with that, I actually believe your correct

but a concept piece and a promo are not mutually exclusive

In this instance anyways, I feel like they congealed into an amazing short

as was my original question,
has there ever been another video game promoting piece that can compare?

Yup, I didn't mean it as a diss against landfall, rather an observation. As for better? Probably the Believe/Diorama series of ads. So simple yet so perfect. Also, the ODST short was great until the drop pod doors opened, then it was just OK.

So the covenant actually have LESS vehicles in Halo 4 than in Halo 2, 3, or Reach and the same number as in Halo Combat Evolved??

It's back to: Ghost, Banshee, Wraith - no Chopper, Spectre, Prowler, Revenant?

Only ONE new vehicle (Mammoth = Elephant 2.0, doesn't count)??

And the Hornet is not returning either?

And no Falcon on the multiplayer maps?

Are you fucking kidding me?? Goddamnit.

I love the overwhelming majority of what 343i did with Halo 4, but toning the vehicular combat back down is just about the worst thing they could do.

What the fuck.

Yeah, Im really hoping they have a few more goodies vehicles wise.. 1 new vehicle is a huge letdown, and it seems like there aren't that many returning either. I am really hoping the Chopper, Hornet and Falcon are all going to show up in MP.
 
Well, lets see. The Spectre, Prowler, and Revenant are all garbage vehicles, no loss there. The Chopper doesn't make sense given the composition of this enemy faction. The Hornet was only viable in multiplayer after a significant nerf, and consistency between single and multiplayer is something that Halo has always strived for.

Would you rather have a bloated count of kinda shitty vehicles, or a decent stable of well-balanced, well thought out vehicles?

Chopper could've had a Forerunner replacement, but even if kept as the Chopper just look at the Gravity Hammer. As for the Hornet, that was only broken initially because of the shitty BR and weak/inconsistent weapon sandbox. I think it would work very well in a stronger game like Halo 4.

Definitely a missed opportunity for a Forerunner vehicle too.

Hopefully the Falcon just hasn't been shown yet because they want to keep it as a returning surprise for when we actually play it, not because it's not in multiplayer. They need to put a flying vehicle on Meltdown too IMO and the same goes for any BTB map: There needs to be an option to drive or fly, makes for a more diverse and fun sandbox.

No Covenant maps :(

First map pack Covenant themed ;]
 
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