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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
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Demoncarnotaur
Member
Eh, actually, let someone else get it.
In my interpretation of SLRP, it's buying into 343. I certainly did after this trip.
As far as balance is concerned, I think the varied starting weapons and AA's work very well together for the most part. I say for the most part because I think that some AA's and armor mods work best for maps over others. I don't necessarily know if that's imbalance but we are already seeing the meta game begin to form. I worry that it will be so dicey that we won't have enough customizable loadout slots lol. I'm worried about the global ordnance. That seems potentially more harmful to competitive balance than personal ordance because of the luck factor. Now, we'll see if there's any pattern and predictability to it that can be learned but from what I hear about how the system works, that might prove to be very difficult. We'll see though. I was playing 1v1 against Bravo on Abandon and rockets dropped right in front of my feet. I actually was unable to get a single kill with them though lol. Not my proudest moment.
Yes! (What codes?)
Zeouterlimits
Member
Yeah, your needler mentions make me smile Tashi, hope it'll translate to mad kills when I get my hands on it. Certainly can't wait to supercombine a Knight.
Fair or even salient points are marred by how you post.
The people at MS/343 who said "well lets sell the season pass separately AND include these skins that we can't/won't put in the LE" were almost surely the ones who said "LETS SELL THE SKINS SEPARATELY, moar profitability!"
It's about tone. Do you not get how you come across in your posts?
Fair or even salient points are marred by how you post.
Isn't it fairly obvious? Same money well.
The people at MS/343 who said "well lets sell the season pass separately AND include these skins that we can't/won't put in the LE" were almost surely the ones who said "LETS SELL THE SKINS SEPARATELY, moar profitability!"
Will this be in the montage?
Ajemsuhgao
Member
Season pass actually gets you two extra HELMETS? Not just skins?
Damn Gina.
Genesis Knight
Member
Yes, actual helmets. But only if you buy the standalone season pass, not what comes with the LE.
Portugeezer
Member
BR is pointless then?
Genesis Knight
Member
BR has been described as the most overwhelmingly powerful rifle at mid-range. DMR for long, AR for short.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
But lets go back to previous Halos with placed weapons. Is the skill it takes to know locations of power weapons, and the intent to rush toward them as the number one objective in slayer, proportional to the advantage the power weapons give you? I'd say not at all. There is much more innate skill/talent associated with direct gunplay, and therefore the reward should be from that skilled gunplay itself.
You may respond that actually strategically dominating the power weapon zone does take skill, not just the knowledge of placement. That strategy is tied to direct gunplay, so you're right there. However, that actually gives players with high gunplay associated skill exponentiated advantage, because power weapons take no skill to use but take a bunch of skill to get.
Therefore a player that is highly skilled in gunplay is much more able to obtain weapons that are much easier to kill opponents with, making it very akin to a killstreak in call of duty. However, because an aspect of an ordnance drop is random, it takes away some of that power from a skilled player, as I believe it should. A skilled player will still get more drops, however they don't know exactly what they will get and they don't know necessarily where it will drop (global ordnance). To me, that is equal to having your gunplay skill in tact, but not having knowledge and skill to exponentiate (made up word?) your advantage in obtaining a weapon that takes no or less skill to use.
Incredibly far from pointless.
Cool. Just waiting on the actual PIN to show up in my email.
Posting from Des Moines, Iowa. Anything cool happen in the past five hours?
I passed exit 117 on the way in... while driving behind a Covenant Transport semi
I was just in Iowa. How is it now, and what are you doing there?
It's really not. You guys sit here & wonder why all of the extras are being split off into 50 different directions, but as soon as you see a stupid skin on WM, you're all over it! It's fairly simple to understand really.
timetokill
Banned
Haha yeah....
....Wait, what?
the LE fiasco isn't just about things being split off. It's about poor communication leading to inaccurate expectations.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Far from it, in my experience.
Is HaloGaf invading Iowa to try and steal my GameFuel?
Genesis Knight
Member
Hold on, I'm confused, there's a type of ordnance (global?) that DOESN'T appear directly in front of you when you call it in?
nillapuddin
Member
So are yall like actually downloading the skin on your xbox's right now?
No, they email it to you on the 6th
Had a big answer started for these, phone rang, the conversation's moved on (and been partially answered) - I really don't think either of these worries are particularly troublesome. (That is - I'm not saying "I'm not worried about either of these things" - I'm saying "I don't think either of these things will be an issue for the vast majority of players, including most competitive players.")
I didn't see a lot of Binary Rifles dropping - for ANYONE. I saw stuff like Scattershot, Needler, etc commonly, Rockets or Incineration Cannon much less commonly. I saw a variety of powerups (which I took often) - you know exactly who's using what when these are involved, they're colored. And I saw grenades. ::shrug:: As Tashi said, players of roughly equal skill will get roughly the same number of drops - and what's available to them might not be PRECISELY equivalent, but it was usually pretty close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=T6UAbizhsRo#t=119s
'The battle rifle is back, it's the old burst fire precision weapon that we all know and love'.
I don't recall loving a 5sk BR?
Tone is something the reader interprets. You guys choose to make my posts into these horrific sarcastic attacks because you don't like the content. Am I often sarcastic? Of course, but there's nothing malicious or tonally offensive on my end.
What about the tone of people talking to me? Pretty much every response I get is people bitching about my posts and being sarcastic right back. That's fine, the big difference is I actually respond to them with content relating to their posts, not whinning about their tone or them constantly slurping.
I'm going to continue to be sarcastic with people who aren't actually interested in debating or conversing.
The skill of static spawns doesn't come from knowing when or where they spawn, but knowing that the other team knows as well. Its the strategic element as well as the fact that it forces teams to move that adds value and depth.
There is a massive strategic element to how teams respond to static power weapons. Yes, players with a high gunplay skill will always have advantages in a first-person shooter game; there's absolutley nothing wrong with that. However, static respawns allow more strategic players to gain the upper hand, even if their gun skill is less. Static spawns allow strategic players more opportunity to gain the advantage.
squidhands
Member
I remember reading that Global Ordnance drops random sets of weapons/powerups in a few fixed locations throughout the map, while Personal land in front of you.
edit: not sure where the differentiation lies, though. Can one get personal ordnance in a team game where global ordnance is also in effect?
Zeouterlimits
Member
007 Legends, really Dax? You can do so much better.
The environment has changed. A 5 shot BR feels like 4 shot because it is balanced against the other rifles.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Look, I do see what you are getting at, but they are still fundamentally different. For 35cents you can get a $5 Vudu movie credit and the exclusive armor skin. For 35cents, what the hell, why not? That literally was an incremental payment that could have maybe bought a gumball for something worth at least $5 (vudu) and a skin on the side. I literally would have not done that if it weren't so ridiculously cheap and supposed to be a preorder bonus.
The LE stuff is different- If you want the helmets, its going to be $25 dollars for a product you have already paid for once. It makes zero sense and basically locks the content out from LE users. I'm not doing that. Nor will I buy the helmets for MSpoints unless they are included in future DLC or something.
I don't think saying people are jumping on a mis-listed product that only costs 35cents justifies or fuels the shitty direction all the per-order and LE content went.
It's the same thing they said on the Sandbox podcast.
Portugeezer
Member
But DMR is as good (time to kill) with better range, so BR is dead, right?
stop stop the joke's already dead
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
br probably takes slightly less skill to use, especially at closer range. But it really should have a slightly faster kill time since its less accurate.
But how else can I make fun of gamers like 4shotzkillar
You forget fanboy nostalgia and easy-sweep headshots.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If it's not VASTLY preferred by MLG players and tryhards during Halo 4's lifespan, I'd be shocked
the rest of us BKs will be using our hitscan BRs and spraying for burst headshots, Halo 2 style
Apparently close range the DMR is really hard to use, yet in all the videos I have seen, everyone seems to be using it with no problem.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Bah. I don't know what to say. I thought it that it'd be great if you "gel with the group" more, you clearly have a certain insight/perspective to offer. That doesn't mean sharing people's opinions, it's about being an enjoyable person to chat to and debate with.
Back to XCOM. Bah.
VanquishUK
Member
Good to hear. All I keep hearing is how weak it is.
Reagan's BR
Banned
I'm just thinking of the Gears 3 skin packs.
I think it is just the skin. I don't know how you get the Oceanic armor? Does anyone know?
Yeah I noticed it then but didn't notice the little logo on it. Very cool. Also, glad to know that someone else here watches RvB.heh - yeah, that showed up earlier in the season (ep 11 or 12, when Church was convincing Carolina that York cared about her). Pretty cool.
Portugeezer
Member
You are dead?
I guess the sweep headhsots is a good point, BR takes less skill.
Your GameFuel? Our GameFuel.
I don't see the resemblance, and the Walmart skin is $0.35.
And comes with $5 that you can use on your Xbox for a movie.