Win!!!Radar's dumb. It's good to have a mode where people aren't glued to watching dots on the corner of their screen and y'know, use their actual senses.
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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
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Nobody knows, not even 343.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
While I will freely admit that I suck at Halo, I love skill-based ranking systems. It gives you something to strive for.
In Halo 2/3, I never reached 50, because I wasn't good enough. Fuck I tried, though.
In Reach, I never reached Inheritor. Because I didn't feel like it was a challenge worth aspiring towards.
In Halo 2/3, I never reached 50, because I wasn't good enough. Fuck I tried, though.
In Reach, I never reached Inheritor. Because I didn't feel like it was a challenge worth aspiring towards.
Also from what I've seen. To steal someone else's ordinance there is a progress bar (Like a care package). It takes a few second longer to steal. You own is instant.
20 sleeps
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Right, but I always found I was able to use radar to my advantage. I remember playing halo 3 games without radar and players that were worse than me would kill me a lot more than if I had radar enabled. I guess at ultra high level play that changes, I don't know.
What's up with this?
Under bonus content it said "find next clue here" and this appeared when I clicked on it...
This is a remnant of a series of clues that were littered around the dashboard and xbox.com in NZ/AU regions - the first person to answer the question in the clues won a LE Halo 4.
The question was "What is Master Chief's first name?"
I didn't win 
Maybe they were better at keeping a look at their surroundings? I'm assuming you mean that they were worse in terms of shooting or decision making but situational awareness is also a chunk of the big picture. It takes some time to get used to having no radar.
One of the things I enjoy most about having no radar is predicting movement of the other team. A close second is trying to avoid enemy players while my shields are down. When I pull things like that off it can be very satisfying and I don't even need +10 points for it.
Gabotron ES
Member
Looks like I'll be getting my LE 4 days earlier, fucking yes!
Even at mid-level play the radar drastically slows down the games. It just has a huge detrimental impact on movement overall, from a mapwide perspective and from an individual encoutner level as well.
But you're damn well gonna get those +10 points, and 343 makes sure you know it too with white text, a medal and the announcer saying "Close Call."
DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU.
Congrats!
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Amazing reply.Radar's dumb. It's good to have a mode where people aren't glued to watching dots on the corner of their screen and y'know, use their actual senses.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I consider pretty good at Halo, but I guess I'm BK status because I LIKE the radar. And I like that Halo 4 now specifies if people are above or below you. Easier for me to dong on people
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I think its the fact that with radar you can play it as a mini game and those that aren't aware of it get screwed. When that gets stripped for a more noob player and a more skilled player, it screws the skilled player more because they were using the radar much more efficiently. But like I said, when everyone has a certain understanding of the radar, it probably does widen the skill gap NOT to have radar. So its probably got an intersecting graph if you compare skilled/non skilled players having radar/no radar in relation to success in games.
squidhands
Member
ViewtifulJC
Banned
dat dp
Latvian Hitman
Member
From what I can tell, the answers to your two questions are: yes and yes, with an extra measure of WTF? thrown in.
I guess it does make it harder to dong on people who don't look at their radar.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
No, Frankie said they're still "tinkering" with visible skill ranks. Apparently it's still being considered, but won't be there on launch day.
Edit : I used to adamantly prefer having radar, but after playing so many more games of MLG since the Reach TU, I'm a total believer in no radar. It forces situational awareness, making you rely on your knowledge of the map, last known location of enemies, likely enemy paths, and your sense of sound. It also encourages team work and communication. No radar > radar.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I guess it does make it harder to dong on people who don't look at their radar.
Yep, but also people that don't take full advantage of it (you can mess with people when they see where you are on the radar; lead them into traps, duck and suddenly "disappear" to cause confusion, etc). But speaking of radar, are they making it so you can see what level opponents are on in comparison to you like Reach? Or are they bringing back the Halo 3 way? I liked Halo 3's a lot better.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Woah? I never saw any mention of that Hunt and Decode thing anywhere - was it run in the UK or America at all?
Hypertrooper
Member
OH YOU! Highest rate I ever got. But just because Tashi is on the picture!
To comment this: I thought the area of Complex wasn't that hard to get the ball back. The problem was however we went always alone in that area.
Maybe it is a China-only competition?
Probably not if you didn't notice it. It was on the front page of the dash all weekend in NZ.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
My understanding is that there are NOT height indicators on the radar by default. Isn't that what the 'enhanced radar' perk does?
Latvian Hitman
Member
That's not exactly what I saw. I saw a post here where someone said that visible skill ranks would not be in the game, and Frank replied to that post and said (paraphrasing): "That's largely true, but it's not the final word on the matter. We're still tweaking a couple of things and will clarify later."
What I took from that was that visible skill ranks are not coming back, but some other sort of system is going to be put in place to fill that void.
nillapuddin
Member
Thanks for quoting (me)
I was actually trying to look for that post earlier and couldn't find it lol
Yeah it's crazy how much of a better deal the chips are
Also, if you buy it at Walmart there is a slip in the game case that coupled with something else gives you 38 games.
So that's a huge deal cause it's money your already spending.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Okay thanks. Don't remember a lot of the perks, I chose the ones I knew I would use a long time ago. That perk seems pretty useless to vets after you've learned the maps. You can often tell what level someone is on by the movement patterns (unless you're in a flat area and the area above/below you is completely flat which never happened much in 3).
Goddamn indeed. Jebus when the strings come in.
nillapuddin
Member
Kittens!
Do not spread this blasphemy.
Indication of relative height is a feature for everyone's motion tracker
Gabotron ES
Member
If any of you guys find one of these forge streams please try to grab some screens so those who missed it can see dem colors!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
There won't be any visible skill ranks at launch. Thats the long and short of it, really. We've pretty much come to terms with outside a select few members of team salty
To Big Show: From my experience the DMR bloom works fine in Halo 4 and I hated it in Reach. At mid range its a non issue. Mid range meaning.... like one side of countdown to the other. At further pinging ranges, yes you gotta pace the final shot or so, or get lucky. But thats a good balancing thing anyway.
If pro players really feel that strongly against the DMR mini-bloom and the BR sweeping headshot, I think the light rifle is perfect for them. A much more complex weapon.
To NYCC HaloGAF: Did Kevin Franklin say any juicy deets on MP during the dinner you guys had?
If pro players really feel that strongly against the DMR mini-bloom and the BR sweeping headshot, I think the light rifle is perfect for them. A much more complex weapon.
To NYCC HaloGAF: Did Kevin Franklin say any juicy deets on MP during the dinner you guys had?
So there is no radar in slayer pro?
Latvian Hitman
Member
Exactly. And I don't hold out much hope for whatever it is that 343 is waiting to talk to us about on the subject, either.
TASHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIII SPILLLLLLLLLLL ITTTTTTTTTT.Hmmmmmmmmm maybe
Brown is the new Grey!
I kid! Really looking forward to seeing how the shadows play in making maps. It may mean picking the right spot to maker a map is way more important than in Reach.
YourExWife
Member
This feature was in Reach...
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
burger king?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Didn't they day PV won't be in non radar playlists?
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hypertrooper
Member
Should we talk about Invasion? Ah. Maybe later.Hmmmmmmmmm maybe
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Wait, do those Forge pieces have brown? So we now have brown, grey, and white? COLORS!