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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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343 told us EXACTLY what came in the LE back in May when it was revealed. The contents have not changed in the slightest, and details were EXTREMELY explicit.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Yeah, lets just hope for free and not as a paid DLC pack.
Annnnd I'm definitely done with the LE.
I like how they are "brainstorming" to provide LE Season Pass owners with the exact same content other Season Pass owners get. Jesus Fucking Christ. I hope they don't hurt themselves thinking about it too hard!
You're intentionally being dense. While that is technically true, it isn't in practice isn't as the exclusivity period on Specializations is now known to be only 2-3 weeks (possibly at the most), and people who buy the Season Pass separately get content that people with the Season Pass that comes with the LE don't get. They have after the fact actively devauled what is in the LE.
I wasn't aware there was a difference between the two.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Yeah, I think its fair that people are sour over the LE.. the whole thing has been a bit of a disaster on the digital side of things.
It did change after this in official press releases, saying "exclusive armor and skin" and it took them ages to clarify. When they clarified they implied they thought it was armor and skin also and apologized.
It did change after this in official press releases, saying "exclusive armor and skin" and it took them ages to clarify. When they clarified they implied they thought it was armor and skin also and apologized.
I decided against the LE a while ago, but the only thing that would have convinced me to grab it is the Specialization access. Now that they're all available to anybody who plays in the first two weeks, I have no more incentive to rethink that decision. Skins (especially when most of them are for armor sets that I'm not going to be using) don't do anything for me, nor does packaging I'll never look at.
I guess the extra Forward Unto Dawn stuff is neat, but that + the packaging + whatever fiction elements are in the briefing packet isn't worth 15 dollars plus tax (since I'll be purchasing the season pass) to me. It's interesting, I thought it was strange (and totally gross) that gameplay items were being held back for the LE buyers, but it's equally strange (but much less gross!) that they're devaluing the LE by giving those things away.
I guess the extra Forward Unto Dawn stuff is neat, but that + the packaging + whatever fiction elements are in the briefing packet isn't worth 15 dollars plus tax (since I'll be purchasing the season pass) to me. It's interesting, I thought it was strange (and totally gross) that gameplay items were being held back for the LE buyers, but it's equally strange (but much less gross!) that they're devaluing the LE by giving those things away.
Shake Appeal
Member
I was personally delighted to learn I don't have to preorder for anything important and can just walk into a store on the day and pay less.
Thanks, Microsoft!
Thanks, Microsoft!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Juices, you better not have a custom spartan in Reach you turd.
They won't, I'd be willing to bet on it, you might just have to wait till all 3 map packs are out before you can get those helmets.
Shit has changed as it's evolved and you know it. One wargames map pack contains shit, and the other doesn't for some weird/stupid reason. Then you have "official" sources that also have fucked it up and a straight answer is neigh impossible on all of it.
They won't, I'd be willing to bet on it, you might just have to wait till all 3 map packs are out before you can get those helmets.
Shit has changed as it's evolved and you know it. One wargames map pack contains shit, and the other doesn't for some weird/stupid reason. Then you have "official" sources that also have fucked it up and a straight answer is neigh impossible on all of it.
Moa
Member
That literally made no fucking sense, am I missing something?
The FUD stuff would be an incentive if we couldn't already watch the core product for free, and if the version in the LE was physical and not a digital copy. Also anyone who is really into that and specifically wants that is probably just going to buy the physical release in December that comes with more stuff, and is only $13/$17 (DVD/Bluray) on Amazon right now.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The Halo 4 Limited Edition will be available at the estimated retail price of $99.99 and includes:
War Games Map Pack Access
And then they say the War Games Map pass comes with two helmets and then say later that it only does when you buy it separate.
They never said that the season pass WITH the LE came with helmets.
They only mentioned that the season pass separate from the LE came with the helmets, later.
dewxp.com I believe.
Moa
Member
ArchedThunder
Banned
Actually they announced the helmets and then awhile after that said that they don't come with the LE.
They advertised it as the map pass, implying it would be the same thing you could by, not that it would be a neutered version.
bobs...onGaf
Member
I agree - the big problem with double exp is that it actually means that people in certain parts of America will have more weapons faster than people everywhere else in the world simply because they live in the right area and happen to eat junk food.
Skin/helmet talk is useless but Elzar deffo has more useless posts.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I will switch around whatever I get by buying the original game on Day 1?
But to pay extra for cosmetic spartan pieces. Disgusting.
Hand in one man card please. Not pointing at you, in general.
1:17 is a nice touch #EVILBAKESACAKE
Indeed, BS Angel directly said that on Waypoint forums.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
And there's absolutely no good reason for that at all.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Holy shit, Nemesis sounds awesome. This soundtrack is great.
Which still begs the question of why they would lock out a LE purchaser from content like the helmets which SE buyers can get.
Which still begs the question of why they would lock out a LE purchaser from content like the helmets which SE buyers can get.
The only thing I can think of that makes any sense is that all of the physical stuff for the LE (i.e. the cards with the codes for all the LE stuff) was already long printed and they either made the helmet decision after the fact and there's no way to attach them to already printed codes on that end, or Marketing decided separately that they needed an extra incentive for people who didn't buy the LE to get the Season Pass to guarantee that money.
This doesn't excuse it from being a shitty practice AT ALL.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Who is elzabams? Point me in that scumbags direction!
Dude still owes me 10 bucks. Tell 'em he better cough it up soon or I'll be busting down doors like Denzel Washington.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Awwww yeahhh
Wait. Shit. I just realized. Locus Helmet. Not Locus Helmet skin. What the fuck?
I know, that just makes no sense. Surely by having the same War Games Pass for LE and separate purchase it would make it easier for consumers to understand. There's no benefit I can see of having different DLC for that. People who have the LE won't buy the War Games Pass, so why lock them out of stuff that won't convince anyone (except a handful of crazy fans) to buy both?
It just makes no sense, like a lot of weird decisions we've seen 343 make recently.
HiredN00bs
Member
Preorder Halo 4 at http://www.mightyape.co.nz
You'll need to use Paypal and post payment when you order.
And the code is not for the helmet, but rather a particular skin for the helmet.
Hmm. Perhaps I stand corrected.
It's a pre-order bonus only available at a retailer that's in New Zealand and the UK. Brilliant, right?
I don't think you could even buy both on one account even if you wanted to though. Part of the problem is that I don't think we know how the codes are tied together in the LE. Normally I'd say someone could sell their Season Pass in the LE to a friend for a like $20 then buy the Season Pass separately to get the helmets, but I have a feeling the Season Pass and the LE-exclusive stuff is all going to be tied together.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Isn't it a bit late to start with an ARG?
I'm so torn between using a Didactified Superintendent for H4 or the Spookyintendent for Halloween. :lol If anyone would like to try to do something with either or these, have at it:
Spookyintendent is awesome man.
Awwww yeahhh
Dis thread today
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Pokebros unite!
CloudyTuba
Member
Well, I'm joining the crowd and cancelling the Limited Edition in favor of the regular edition and buying the map pass separately.
All the other bonuses have basically become obsolete (and I don't want to stream FUD digitally), and when comparing the Prime skin with the Strider helmet, I choose the Strider helmet (and for 15 dollars less).
The War Games Map Pass will simply be available on the XBL marketplace at launch, correct? And the recruit armor is available to everyone at launch?
All the other bonuses have basically become obsolete (and I don't want to stream FUD digitally), and when comparing the Prime skin with the Strider helmet, I choose the Strider helmet (and for 15 dollars less).
The War Games Map Pass will simply be available on the XBL marketplace at launch, correct? And the recruit armor is available to everyone at launch?
User 73706
Banned
In response to the ARG:
searching Gallagher Glacier got me these two interesting links:
Gallagher's Glacier is an expanded short story from 1964 by Analog. Amazon link here.
It also presented me with Gallagher Ridge, a location in Antarctica. It is nearby Decker Glacier (800 meters east), Nichols Ridge (2 km east), Repeater Glacier (2 km southwest), Ponder Peak (2 km southeast), and Tractor Corner (3 km west).
No idea what to make of this yet.
searching Gallagher Glacier got me these two interesting links:
Gallagher's Glacier is an expanded short story from 1964 by Analog. Amazon link here.
It also presented me with Gallagher Ridge, a location in Antarctica. It is nearby Decker Glacier (800 meters east), Nichols Ridge (2 km east), Repeater Glacier (2 km southwest), Ponder Peak (2 km southeast), and Tractor Corner (3 km west).
No idea what to make of this yet.
What else could Frankie have been referring to?
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
The Didact is frozen in a glacier on EARTH!!!!!! OMGHGUDJdsjkbkjljg
Was just going to put it on the hat like a logo, Pixelated the face for good measure.
lol, why did you pixelate my face?
I can deal with pre-order incentives to a point. Where it completely falls apart is when you start offering different pre-order bonuses at different retailers, some of them not even available in all countries. This whole thing is bullshit, but with the pre-order ones they've said they'll be available at some point down the line for everyone so whatever. But the LE Season Pass vs the Standard Season Pass is where this gets fucked.
As a completionist I'm already fucked since I'm not willing to pay $350 for the console for a single skin (or pay the apparently $150+ it's going for on ebay for just the code). My OCD only works if I can get everything, so the moment that became not possible I stopped giving a fuck. My outrage over the Season Pass thing is purely on principle.
NullPointer
Member
bobs...onGaf
Member
The Didact's scanning and symbol causes electrical interference! I was trying to match the ARG.
Well no actually I just found it funny.
I have a less funny version aswell: 
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It being dlc, it happening soon, the whole thing being like gears 3, any combination of those things, the entire thing, etc.
That tagline is awesome.