one day you're going to be pinned out of your mind and knock that thing off the wall and then you will fall down on top of the pins. that will be A Bad Day.
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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
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one day you're going to be pinned out of your mind and knock that thing off the wall and then you will fall down on top of the pins. that will be A Bad Day.
when this building was first shown, from the outside, i thought the forge lightng was insane, as you can see how that yellowish interior lighting spills out onto the surface outside. but yeah, then he hit "delete everything" and it was still there.
Haha yeah, I was thinking the same.
I still think that they should have went back to Sandbox style pieces for regular forge though. From the footage seen today the pieces still seem jarring, IMO.
It's all in your head too.
Upon reading this I found 2 pins on the ground.
I took a good look at many of the pieces in the video and quite a few of the older pieces have been changed/updated to make this less of a problem. Many of the Reach Forerunner pieces that had inclines are now updated to fit with the new human-style of stairs with wider/more standard size walkways. The tall-tower piece for example:
I saw quite a few more in addition to this. I think many of the modularity proportions are fixed/more standard.
Your image will not load for me, but this is the moment in the video which prompted that part of my post.
At the time, the magnet feature was being demoed, showing how parts snap together more easily. Now perhaps they were showcasing parts that are incompatible. But I always struggled to use the ramp/platform piece that is facing away from camera. And it appears from this moment that it's still going to not fit, at least with these kinds of ramps.
My post was based on one quick viewing this morning while I prepped for work. I'll be watching it again shortly, hoping to spot what you have mentioned.
K
kittens
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Installing Dishonored. I know absolutely nothing about the game, aside from it having a steampunk aesthetic and some supernatural shit. I wish I could go into Halo 4 without knowing so much about it, but ah well, the hype train is fun.
Laughing my ass off at this!
Captain Blood
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I am in the same boat! The last time this happened for me was the first Bioshock. It is very refreshing and I am loving it!
Vire
Member
Black Dynamite is one of the great blacksploitation films OF ALL TIME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fykFpD6snX0
ncsuDuncan
Member
Fixed.
xxjuicesxx
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Look up cotton assessment import fee.
Thank you
Your image will not load for me, but this is the moment in the video which prompted that part of my post.
At the time, the magnet feature was being demoed, showing how parts snap together more easily. Now perhaps they were showcasing parts that are incompatible. But I always struggled to use the ramp/platform piece that is facing away from camera. And it appears from this moment that it's still going to not fit, at least with these kinds of ramps.
My post was based on one quick viewing this morning while I prepped for work. I'll be watching it again shortly, hoping to spot what you have mentioned.
Anyone notice that when you highlight a forge piece it turns different colors like red, yellow, green etc.
Is there a reason why when they are highlighted they can be different colors and not just one universal color all the time?
Or is 343 just having fun teasing us with the fact we are that close to having color palettes???
yet so far
Devin Olsen
Member
wat
Is this actually how gameplay looks on the new Forge maps? This looks like an early build game-play or something, is this from a final build?
Hydranockz
Member
Green is highlighted.
Yellow is selected but unlocked.
Red is selected and locked.
That's my understanding anyway.
Did you even watch the video?
Red = Locked
Green = Selected
Yellow = Selectable
Or something like that.
Yup, day 1 in MM.
With The Cage remake in every playlist.
Your image will not load for me, but this is the moment in the video which prompted that part of my post.
At the time, the magnet feature was being demoed, showing how parts snap together more easily. Now perhaps they were showcasing parts that are incompatible. But I always struggled to use the ramp/platform piece that is facing away from camera. And it appears from this moment that it's still going to not fit, at least with these kinds of ramps.
I was prompted to investigate by the same moment that prompted your post.
Here is the pic re-upped and recut to show more:
Notice how they modifyed a lot of the old Reach pieces and how well they fit together?
The Tower-Tall example stood out to me because the incline is now wider to fit the other pieces. (Also, it's become a staircase, I wonder if you can bounce nades up those stairs?)
But again, there are other examples I noticed of old pieces being slightly updated in proportion as well as the many new pieces they added that appear to fit nicely.
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Moving this up here since I edited it:
LOL, Thats the problem!
I am used to just explaining it with 3D art & rendering jargon, I got to go back and leave stuff out or explain it better.
Beyond3D is where you get technical, I tried posting somewhat technical stuff on GAF before that I think just flew by a lot of people.
^(Actually, I could have replaced that whole post with just the sentence, "Blinn's Law, LOLOLOL." and that would have had more of an effect; at least it would piss off Juices!)
Lighting is just an interesting subject that, much like everything in realtime 3D, varies wildly from engine to engine, especially recently.
The thing is, the WYSIWYG, 'painting with light' workflow I described is only really become feasible recently with deferred renderers,
so compared to the typical static/baked lighting workflow, this is rather new/not-so-obvious compared to how it was done in the not-too-distant past.
(and is actually still done today to a large degree.)
This is more about explaining a particular aspect of game art workflow that any forger would grasp.
(Lol, now I think I know how BSangel must feel every wednesday.)
Also, getting example pics of my own as well as ones I shot from SDKs takes time.
I think they actually said that no forge maps would be in matchmaking initially... Or maybe I'm making that up.
Bregmann Roche
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The bottom is about to fall out of 314's "Control Fracs" product launch.
Reagan's BR
Banned
Buy 'em now boys before they get taken down.
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kittens
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None cept for the half textured Cage remake.
Devin Olsen
Member
They've somehow made the forge pallet worse than in Reach. A tip of the hat, I suppose.
Disclaimer - These pictures are all that I have seen, perhaps other pictures/videos could convince me otherwise.
Reagan's BR
Banned
xxjuicesxx
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I believe they said they will have a community playlist and eventually they might put the more favored maps into their playlists...
So basically the same thing as Reach. They'll start a half assed community playlist then start throwing them into BTB and Slayer playlists.
I think it was one of the questions answered in a weekly update where they answered a bunch of questions.
Anyone?
Also Computron it wouldnt piss me off, I love laws!
an unlimited budget, two development teams, and 3 years couldn't get those pesky colors into forge.
good enough though imo
What's hilarious about the community playlist is that the population hovered around 100 from the get go, yet the trash was still forced into the regular playlists, lulz.
I wouldn't be sad if Forge was axed completely, but that video was obviously a huge step up over Reach visually, even if the pieces are still one color.
I wouldn't be sad if Forge was axed completely, but that video was obviously a huge step up over Reach visually, even if the pieces are still one color.
that playlist was carefully catered by elite community cartographers. how dare you.
I expected you to say something along the lines of, "Blinn's Law ain't even true, we don't even reach 30fps nowadays."
Juices Law; "As technology advances, the rendering time becomes even shittier."
Hydranockz
Member
O how I missed thee, sweet hyperbole.
I forgot how great that movie is.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
It wasn't. =/
Reagan's BR
Banned
The good thing is that Forge is getting better. It is far from Far Cry but it is much better than Reach.
Some Forge maps can be good. The only "worry" that I have is the framerate.
Some Forge maps can be good. The only "worry" that I have is the framerate.
ahhhhhh
Apparently not. :/
I mean if they could make the pieces change color like that while editing... One would think that it can't be too hard to give us an option to change the color of individual forge pieces. Then again I know very little about game developing.
I can do without colors although it would be really, really, really sweet. Framerate is a bigger problem that directly affects gameplay
Hydranockz
Member
You think that matters in his mind?
lol no.. no it wasn't
Edit: Live'd
This also isn't true.
However, I'm actually agreeing with your sentiments on Forge maps in core playlists. So there's that.
I wish we could vote/nominate cartographers for H4.
What part? Wasn't the whole point of the community playlist to test out maps & let the cream rise to the top? The population was pathetic from its inception and thus there were no testing grounds for maps to go through, thus resulting in hilariously bad maps getting into the regular playlists.
I would state the obvious that the population sucked because the number of people who want Forge maps in their MM experience is minimal, but I guess you could blame it on poor awareness of what the playlist was.
What part? Wasn't the whole point of the community playlist to test out maps & let the cream rise to the top? The population was pathetic from its inception and thus there were no testing grounds for maps to go through, thus resulting in hilariously bad maps getting into the regular playlists.
I would state the obvious that the population sucked because the number of people who want Forge maps in their MM experience is minimal, but I guess you could blame it on poor awareness of what the playlist was.
Kibbles
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Yeah I worried about that when he made the interior bits and ran around with the DMR and there was like no lighting change on the DMR. :S Those screens make me sad panda.
VOTE FOR ME ON NOVEMBER 6TH.
Bregmann Roche
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Cageout! Now with fewer kill volumes and more inaccesible (except by jetpack) elevated areas!
Bitter. It's bitter hyperbole. Let's not "good enough" our adjectives.
I really like the sound of Cagemire. Ship it.
you'll be joining the storied ranks of a guy who doesn't play multiplayer, a guy who only plays grifball, and a guy who made cragmire.
are you sure you're up to the task?