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Tha Robbertster
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Lets look at the features 343 added and removed for Halo 4.
Added:
-Spartan Ops
-Create a class (weapons, AA's, grenades and modifications)
-Join in progress
-Dominion
-Extraction
-New CTF
-New Oddball
-Small Forge upgrades.
-Level based unlocking system
-Infection made into a proper gametype
-Prometheans
-Bunch of new weapons
-2 new vehicles (mantis+Mammoth)
Removed:
-Firefight
-Campaign theater
-Campaign scoring
-Skill based ranking system
-Flag customization options
-Oddball customization options
-Bunch of older weapons (Grenade laucher, focus rifle, Plasma Laucher)
-Old vehicles (Flacon, Revenant)
-VIP gametype
-Race gametype
-Assault gametype
Please tell me if I missed something.
Added:
-Spartan Ops
-Create a class (weapons, AA's, grenades and modifications)
-Join in progress
-Dominion
-Extraction
-New CTF
-New Oddball
-Small Forge upgrades.
-Level based unlocking system
-Infection made into a proper gametype
-Prometheans
-Bunch of new weapons
-2 new vehicles (mantis+Mammoth)
Removed:
-Firefight
-Campaign theater
-Campaign scoring
-Skill based ranking system
-Flag customization options
-Oddball customization options
-Bunch of older weapons (Grenade laucher, focus rifle, Plasma Laucher)
-Old vehicles (Flacon, Revenant)
-VIP gametype
-Race gametype
-Assault gametype
Please tell me if I missed something.
Removed:
-VIP gametype
- Race gametype
- Assault gametype
the lack of scoring is really dumb, most of my campaign games were with scoring on, I just liek it with medals and points.
That also means no challenges for getting X00000 Points in Mission X.
And the skulls are really now just fun things, no point multipliers
Well I think it's never been more clear how different 343's vision for what Halo is differs from Bungie's, at least from a feature standpoint. The suite of modes and support options Bungie built up and sustained through their games is getting token treatment or gutted.
-Campaign scoring removed.
-Campaign and Spartan Ops theater removed.
-No new multiplayer theater features.
-Forge functionality marginally tweaked from Reach, objects heavily reused.
-Custom options pared back.
-Skulls identical to Halo 3, ODST, Reach, with no new content.
343 put their resources into reinventing Halo's core experience, into the story, and into player progression. I can respect that, it's a huge unertaking. (Will revise after playing the game, of course.) But the surrounding, supporting modes and features are neglected or cut.
I'm up taking pain killers because my legs are sore from my workout. So I'm grouchy. But goddamn are these things adding up. I joked that the OT thread title should be "Master Chief Responds to the Call of Duty", but it fits.
-Campaign scoring removed.
-Campaign and Spartan Ops theater removed.
-No new multiplayer theater features.
-Forge functionality marginally tweaked from Reach, objects heavily reused.
-Custom options pared back.
-Skulls identical to Halo 3, ODST, Reach, with no new content.
343 put their resources into reinventing Halo's core experience, into the story, and into player progression. I can respect that, it's a huge unertaking. (Will revise after playing the game, of course.) But the surrounding, supporting modes and features are neglected or cut.
I'm up taking pain killers because my legs are sore from my workout. So I'm grouchy. But goddamn are these things adding up. I joked that the OT thread title should be "Master Chief Responds to the Call of Duty", but it fits.
Skulls are needed for 4 player legendary campaign, otherwise it is too easy (at least based on previous Halos).
I don't care that scoring was removed, after Halo 3 and its scoring achievements i never bothered with scoring.
Devs like limitations. It gives them more challenge, right?
Essentially, 2-bomb, 1-bomb, and Neutral Assault are gone, as well as 1-flag. Three Plots also seems to be gone but Extraction seems similar, I thought. But hey! There's still Oddball (and the option for the favorite, Hot Potato)!
Yeah. I just struggle to think about the sleepless nights where they had to discuss what they could get rid of to piss the most amount of people off.
You could just check the length of the films in the-Brutal.
Campaign scoring/medals (for me personally) is a huge blow. Hope it's not true. Also, no timer? No more speed runs I guess.
Nothing 100% confirmed yet, right?
Right?
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You could still see the time on waypoint.com in game history.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Yeah, because I'm sure that's what the discussions were like. Come on people.
Brutal.
Campaign scoring/medals (for me personally) is a huge blow. Hope it's not true. Also, no timer? No more speed runs I guess.
Nothing 100% confirmed yet, right?
Right?
WSplit
Problem solved!
VanquishUK
Member
The only thing that has been removed that I personally care about, is the ranking system.
Just give me a BR/DMR and a symmetrical map and I'm set for 2 years.
Just give me a BR/DMR and a symmetrical map and I'm set for 2 years.
What? 1-flag is gone, there's no custom options for it at all?
Brutal.
Campaign scoring/medals (for me personally) is a huge blow. Hope it's not true. Also, no timer? No more speed runs I guess.
Nothing 100% confirmed yet, right?
Right?
I loved it. Aside from my initial run, every game of Reach I played had scoring on. Pretty sure the same for ODST and Halo 3 as well. I loved popping medals during Campaign. It's a big deal to me as well; it's how I'm used to playing Halo at this point.
You could just check the length of the films in the-
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You could still see the time on waypoint.com in game history.
run, Nokyard, run
Seriously though. Campaign scoring... It's not even a big feature. I just don't understand why it would be gone and/or why they haven't said a word about it. Let's not even talk their silence about campaign theatre. If they had a real excuse as to why it isn't in the game, why didn't they just say so from the beginning? People would still be bitter, but now we're just left in the dark with no explanation at all.
It's the same crap as the ranking system.
Quite possibly unrelated, but it made me laugh.
WSplit is awsumz cuz you can make all the splits you want, save your runs and obviously it automatically calculates how much faster or slower than your previous run you are going.
A priceless tool in such a non-theater dark day!
Tha Robbertster
Member
lol
ElzarTheBam
Member
Yes, on the same page if you're on 100ppp.
Something to break up the bitterness...
OT: I preordered ACIII online from EB games (or Gamestop or whatever you call it over in the US). When it is released, does anyone know if I get it on the day or will I have to wait?
Lol.
OT: I preordered ACIII online from EB games (or Gamestop or whatever you call it over in the US). When it is released, does anyone know if I get it on the day or will I have to wait?
>taking it seriously.
Lol.
HiredN00bs
Member
There's disappointment, criticism, sarcasm, satire, anger, and hate, all of which could be justified, and then there's just stupid, like this post.
Oh, I take stupid very seriously.
I thought I just did.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Oh my god, please shut the FUCK up about the custom game browser.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
ElzarTheBam
Member
Dark day for the series.
People in the community section are giving me a lot of flak, glad I'm not the only one not liking it.
you forgot: terminal videos only viewable in waypoint (and only for gold members).
all of this reminds me of uncharted 3's campaign. they cut some features because they where pushing the hardware so hard and ran out of time.
HiredN00bs
Member
Puts in desired maps/settings, no matches found.
Puts in Ragnorak, finds Team Rockets match.
Puts in Slayer Pro, realizes that they might as well be searching in that playlist.
squidhands
Member
Our only hope lies with Spartan Ops
I don't think that the bold is the case. There was a picture that was posted yesterday that started the whole shitstorm, and Theater was listed as a submenu of Infinity. I HAVE to hope that Spartan Ops is where we can scratch that itch that we've been able to do with the last 3 Halo campaigns. If not, it would put a pretty big mark against such a huge endeavor for the franchise.
Are any round-based gametypes returning? When Assault got the axe, Grifflol got changed, and CTF was revamped, I went ahead with the assumption that round-based gametypes that we've been familiar with got cut. Maybe an option will be there, but one-sided gametypes don't seem to be what 343 wants to use in grabbing the casual fan that they seem to want to market to this time around.
Unlikely. #KeepTruckin
The 1min version works a heck of a lot better... Would have just ponied up the cash for the full version as opposed to the :45 if I were Microsoft.
Also... let it be said I'd rather have ZooJoo back than this "Can I be on Team Downer? Can I?" business.
Amazing Mic
Neo Member
Yup, pretty much the last thing I'd want to do is pull more people from Matchmaking at this point.
Tha Robbertster
Member
The only round based gametype that we know exists in 4 is infection :|
Gabotron ES
Member
I see they also scrapped middle text from campaign, resources are a bitch.
Custom Game Browser only works if you have a huge population. With some of the decisions 343 has made with Halo 4 I can't imagine the population will be large enough after a month or so to support a whole custom games hopper.
Do you know how server browsers work?
If you wanted to play a game on Ragnorak, it would give you a list of all the available games on Ragnorak. You wouldn't have to choose Team Rockets unless you wanted too.
Regardless, I don't think Halo really needs a server browser.... yet. At least until we get [if we get] dedicated severs instead of P2P.
BlueScrote
Member
To be quite honest, most of the cuts things don't bother me. This in particular seems like a stupid decision, because there's a snowball's chance in hell I will ever bother going into waypoint to view them rather than just youtubing them after I'm done with the campaign.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Less than 2 weeks!
Amazing Mic
Neo Member
Such a boneheaded comment to think any you could fill a bus with the number of people these changes will drive away.
Don't want to speak for him, but looks like he gets it to me.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Personally I really loved it in 3 & ODST, made for great competitiveness in Coop.
Hell, was just using it last week, made for great laughs.
"I was winning by like 2000 points, now I'm on 6!"
"Are you intentionally keeping me from respawning so you can get points?"
Again, I'm interested in the fact it wasn't said. And a lot sooner. Why not cut through the disappointment early and focus on selling people with the good things?
Makes me feel like I missed something.
Hoping, by some miracle I get it on the Friday or Monday. I realised yesterday I'm going to be in London the weekend of release and will miss the first Halo 4 customs!
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
The same was said of the "changes" in Halo Reach...
squidhands
Member
Oh right, I conveniently forgot about that. That's a case where it would be extremely easy to follow for someone new to the franchise; you're either a human or a monster (and bravo to 343 for finally making that distinction).
edit: what the fuck is going on in this extraction video. What exactly are you trying to extract, a box of information? I'm watching on my phone so it's probably not the best place to watch, but I'm not seeing the fun like Dominion.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Nope
polyh3dron
Banned
Could the video quality be any worse?
Yeah, I don't quite understand it either. Looks confusing, which is odd considering everything else in the game is laid directly in front of you.
Hahahaha oh man. This shit got me.
dragonelite
Member
Guys we all know that theater and quick time event dont go together...
am i doing it right ?
am i doing it right ?
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