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The Henery
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Big Show made the point a few weeks ago that of course the infinity (in particular BTB) gametypes are going to be the most popular: the game was built from the ground up around them. Why would even 'old school' Halo fans play Slayer Pro when it's essentially an after thought, a perfunctory bone thrown their way just so 343 can say 'well we did try but people don't want that Halo anymore'. Also, the Infinity gametypes are doing proportionally as well as the modes they replaced, Team Slayer and BTB. We don't know how straight Team Slayer Halo would have fared in Halo 4 because the option isn't even there in custom games for a lobby of friends minding their own business.
I don't look at the numbers as an issue so much as the player retention. It started from a very healthy base but took a dramatic dive from the first week numbers. I would have hoped for at least a 50% player retention from the first week numbers, especially seeing as the game's only 6 weeks old.
Cons: Equipment 'evolved' into AA's. Full teams of flare abusers using AA efficiency to spam them every 8 seconds.
My experience is definitely a positive one too on this side. Connections have been generally solid, Trueskill is demonstrably better than Reach, JIP, while providing some annoyances, has smoothed out as the weeks have gone on.
Shoutouts to Hiredn00bs, Fyrewulff, Steven 08 and Ne0ism
Which is why the lack of basic customisation (sprint toggle, flag dropping/disabling auto pickup, being able to set a respawn timer in slayer) was so curious in Halo 4.
This is coming from someone who is having a blast (for the most part) playing Halo 4 but I can totally understand why many Halo fans aren't as optimistic about Halo as they used to be. Well, I'm pretty sure excitement and optimism was bountiful in the gradual and tiered unveiling of Halo 4. There were thousands of posts speculating what might be, what big new feature would be implemented, how existing features would be evolved and improved, pages and pages of fiction speculation, salivating at simple things like the BR's return and jump height increasing. I digress. I think the post-Halo 4-release Halo fan is a little jaded.
They were excited to delve into the campaign then relive their favourite moments or those 'wtf?' happenings in the theatre, something they'd been able to do in the three prior campaigns stretching back to 2007. The feature was unceremoniously cut. Whilst they were disappointed to hear that Firefight had been axed, they were optimistic that its replacement, Spartan Op's, would fill the void and then some. Sadly, Spartan Op's featured no customisation, no scoring, no competitive element and no skulls to modify the AI behaviour/game mechanics.
For me personally, the lack of advancement for the multiplayer theatre has been very disappointing. I was in a lobby with one other friend yesterday. I left the lobby to go to the theatre mode as I cannot view a film whilst in a party (unlike Halo 3). Whilst I held fast forward to reach the part of the film I wanted to see I told my friend (in party chat) how Blop's 2 had improved on its already advanced theatre mode; skip to highlights feature, direct upload to Youtube in HD, in game montage maker/clip splicer and the ability to add your own commentary after the clip was cut. There was genuine excitement in his voice at these features, almost incredulous that Blop's was doing that, a real buzz thinking about what was possible.
It sucks as a Halo fan to look 'over the fence' and see a game which 'copied' theatre mode from the pioneering Halo 3 and yet advance it far and beyond what Halo has done with it since. One of the excuses for the removal of group party viewings in the theatre was the ability to rewind films in campaign/Firefight yet campaign theatre doesn't even exist in Halo 4 and party viewing is still conspicuously absent.
I've pulled off some silly/funny/awesome stuff in Halo 4, from matches I've enjoyed immensely. When Bungie handed over to 343, film rendering was halted for Reach. It was very disappointing but I told myself, of course it would be up and running for Halo 4 come launch. And yet, I cannot render my game clips, something which Halo players could do from 2009. Let me share my awesome experiences with this awesome community. The last few years of internet innovation have been centered around social interaction, sharing and community content. Facebook, Youtube, Twitter. Halo would do well to embrace its social side once more.
Yes.
Zoso Achilles
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You win this page.
BackdoorBeauty
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This music is terrible, and those guys look like douchebags. That is all.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It's like a time machine back to highschool(ish).
Can't believe that was like 12 years ago. /old
I don't think you know what a douchebag looks like, or what young adults looked like in 2000.
You're part of the problem!
YOU. THE PROBLEM. ONE AND THE SAME!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
ALL DAY ERRY DAY. Dat 2000s mix disk...
Edit: God damn, like every good song is in there.
Edit2: I was 96-2000, but those songs are still awesome. The shit that was in when I was in school was like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NVO3cxTbxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfZbFh7qlCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZktNItwexo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNc45FTenhg
Fucking love these songs.
Poker Face
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playing BR FFA on midship.
feelsgoodman
feelsgoodman
ElRenoRaven
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Noticed that the other day in Halo 4 too when finishing the game up on legendary. It's the same. One of the many things I wish 343 hadn't brought over. So damn sloppy and usually you have to do it at least twice it seems.
xxjuicesxx
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HALO does feel good! Shame we havent gotten to play Halo in a while.
YourExWife
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I love how literally everyone in that Limp Bizkit vid is now more relevant than Fred Durst.
Also, Crazy Town is the shit.
And Adema wasn't terrible on their first album. That came later
Video of you two and the cats dancing to Nemesis Remix NOW!
Can XBC find your system and everything? What set-up are you using?
The parties don't show up in game for him. He can hop into people's servers fine but nothing changes in game
MrGreencastle
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Does anyone have a link to the last MLG refinery? I missed it, not sure if they record that.
Here's the issue, posted on XBC forums too.
My current setup is:I can find my console with no issue, but when I join a lobby I see no one in the "System Link" area for Halo 2. I've tried using a ethernet too with the Xbox, turning off my firewall, allowing XBC, etc and still nothing. Here's what I have setup on my router below:
- Xbox 360 Slim (has wireless built in)
- Laptop (Acer, Windows 7) with wireless internet (I run XBC)
Any help would be awesome
They usually upload it in part the next day.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
All they need to do is make the weapon drops alternate every drop with "ammo" weapons (BR/LR/AR/ ETC) and limit powerweapons by restricting rockets, and shotgun/scattershot. Weapons that promote abuse of shield doors don't allow that mode to play well.
I will provide this next week if you really want. Bringing the cats to her place for the first time.
Any kind of limitation would be prefered. The fact that bases spawn with shotguns and rockets is a little silly. Makes assaulting a base near impossible.
MrGreencastle
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Thanks. I'm curious, are you bridging the connections or using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)?
Had no production behind it so it looks kinda shotty, but the content was good.
No bridging, I did try experimenting with bridging using a crossover cable cord from my laptop to my 360. No luck.
This is a beautiful post, a diamond in the rough that is this thread. Unfortunately, I don't see much changing soon even if Halo 4 gets rapid fixes, and the fixes people want. I hope 343 delivers that hysteria cure (read: fileshare) soon.
k fu den.
MrGreencastle
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So, if I'm understanding correctly, this is your setup:
Access Point <----> PC/XBC <--(ics)--> Xbox
and not:
Xbox <----> Access Point <----> PC/XBC
You should have much better luck with the first option, either way.
Rickenslacker
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To think, the viewmodel of the RL took up an entire fucking monitor.
It looks like your 8602 port is forwarded to your Xbox's IP. Try forwarding it to your computer's IP.
Poker Face
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I love Halo 2
is your laptop plugged into your router or are you wireless?
OverHeat
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Damn it I lost my H2 vista dvd but I still have my box and cd key :s
MrGreencastle
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It isn't, they're both forwarding the proper ports to the PC's local address.
When you max it out in ultrawidescreen and AA at triple buffered 60fps with added motion blur.
It's wireless, I also have a ethernet in which I've tried connecting to the laptop and it still didn't show. Then tried just the xbox and nothing. It would be too hard to get 2 ethernets with the layout i have right now.
Rickenslacker
Banned
How baller would it've been had they done the typical last gen HD treatment for CEA and gave it 60fps instead? And online play...
More like middle of the page.
MrGreencastle
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Connect like this:
Access Point <--(WiFi)--> PC/XBC <--(ICS, ethernet)--> Xbox
Enable ICS on your wireless adapter. In network and sharing centre, click change adapter settings. Then, under properties for your wireless adapter, and sharing tab, make sure the box "Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet connection" is checked. You may have to either restart everything, or wait 30 seconds for it to sort itself out, depending on various things.
(sorry if you've done all this, just trying to help)
The basic explanation is something like in engine, object orientations are stored XX.XXXX*. To preserve file space and networking, when you save it only saves XX.X* , so it rounds or truncates and when the engine reads back the orientation values, it doesn't quite put them back the same way the engine did.
So say I move something so it's tilted on the X by 24.4999* . When you save it'll become 24.4 and then the engine re-constitutes the map it'll be spawned as 24.4000*, so it'll be an entire .1 or whatever off what you left it as.
This is why we need gigantic flat pieces that aren't a Coliseum Wall because if you leave an object in it's natural orientation, it stays perfectly flat. Once you rotate it, WILDCARD BITCHES.
*I don't know the exact precision but it's about as good as an approximation I can think of.
Poker Face
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I have it setup with a wireless slim and a pc hooked up to a router so I know that can work. I'm not sure what else to try :/
Rickenslacker
Banned
Where are those bullet cases ejecting from?
I have 16 gigs of RAM and 8 cores sitting here, I should run a Halo 2 dedicated server. Be my own matchmaking overlord.
ps. Kinect in Skyrim refuses to acknowledge half the things I say. It does reliably recognize "Quick save" and "quick load" though. Is it this touchy in Anniversary?
ps. Kinect in Skyrim refuses to acknowledge half the things I say. It does reliably recognize "Quick save" and "quick load" though. Is it this touchy in Anniversary?
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