The endless hallways on the outer circle of Relay (Or Dispatch, whatever) don't help either.
BUT WHAT DO I KNOW IM NOT A CARTOGRAPHER
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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
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BUT WHAT DO I KNOW IM NOT A CARTOGRAPHER
Uh huh and mlg is for players who aren't skilled enough to play real competitive games. I should say the guys playing real competitve games like starcraft 2 are losers too since they weren't good enough to join a sports team.
:l
BTB is zany fun!
SHIFTYkiwi
Member
That Oddball match was crazy! Snipedown getting 55 kills positive 24.
Not one second I thought it was boring/frustrating to watch.
YourExWife
Member
You realize MLG isn't Halo right? And Starcraft 2 is? BTB on H4 is total shit.
Ya but it's still the same point. Saying mlg was easier than "the current most competitive dmr only playlist in matchmaking."
edit: and isn't every playlist in H4 just about total shit when you compare them to the past halo's? (excluding reach)
xxjuicesxx
Member
Please rephrase this into something that makes sense.
what are you saying
What words were too big for you?
...What?
SPACECADET
Member
WARRIORS WILL RISE FROM THE ASHES.
Zany - ludicrously or whimsically comical; clownish.
Sounds about right.
YourExWife
Member
So you agree, thereby negating your previous stance. And DMR only? Didn't you see the last few pages of people wondering why the competitive settings are BR starts?
BTB was shit in Reach too. How far back are we supposed to go so you can be right?
it's sarcasm, I was just offended about the BTB being a kiddy pool statement. You guys :l
Exactly, who the fuck plays BTB to be super competitive. It's suppose to be all about fun.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I dunno just your like thought process.
Did you compare video game sports to be kiddy pool of real sports? Cause they are two different things.
What does Starcraft 2 have to do with anything?
And BTB is zany? So you are agreeing with me its the kiddy pool of Halo?
Believe it or not people have fun competing...
For instance look at this tournament going on right now...
YourExWife
Member
User 73706
Banned
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
I'm all for 16-player MLG DEEZ NUTZ BTB OBJECTISKIRMISH SUPER SLAYER SUPREMO GONZALES competitive stuff but there's definitely a place for casual BTB fun alongside it.
Infinity Slayer becomes infinitely more entertaining if you don't take it seriously.
I disagree. Infinity Slayer is a hot, chaotic mess, which is fun sometimes but not as the baseline experience.
This isn't about ultra competetive vs casual.
This is about fairness. You can have fun under settings that can be competetive. Even with vehicles and shit. But you can't be competetive under silly fiesta bullshit settings.
BTB being Slayer-only was a nice up-front indicator of its quality, considering BTB Slayer has always been totally mediocre. As wretched as Reach BTB could be, I'd rather play it pre-343-takeover than 4's. Once they put in some of those community Forge maps (Abridged, Lam Lam), it was all right if you had a team of 3+ (though not great - fuck Renegade, Spire, Boneyard, 15fps Wayont). Until 343 made it Heavies, that is. At that point it might as well just be H4 BTB.
A shame, because a couple of 4's big maps seem like they'd be all right with good gametypes and settings.
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I just tuned in to AGL for the first time today. Ring girls at a Halo event. Why is this a thing?
Taking out the boxes from the Adrift bases is a smart move. Push it into matchmaking.
Why does the webcam they have pointed at Pistola perform like it came out of 1997 on an AOL dialup connection?
A shame, because a couple of 4's big maps seem like they'd be all right with good gametypes and settings.
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I just tuned in to AGL for the first time today. Ring girls at a Halo event. Why is this a thing?
Taking out the boxes from the Adrift bases is a smart move. Push it into matchmaking.
Why does the webcam they have pointed at Pistola perform like it came out of 1997 on an AOL dialup connection?
Nailed it.
Yeap. +10
More specifically this line "Its players who cant swim yet so they play around in a stupid little shallow pool".
It's just talking down to people who enjoy a certain playlist, and assuming they are possibly stupid and not very good at halo. We can go through every playlist currently in matchmaking and point out countless "flaws" we would like changed. Ya the tanks and gauss hogs and numerous vehicles cripple gameplay in BTB, but it's not every match it happens. I hear the same bitching about bolt shots and personal ordinance drops among other things, being said by the same people here everyday. I don't call those people out, and belittle them for their choices. BTB is the only playlist I can hop on a goose and launch myself off a mancannon while splattering somebody. I just love Halo's sandbox and BTB is where I can fully take advantage of it.
xxjuicesxx
Member
That was pretty much my original meaning when talking to Croatia,
If you make the DMR weaker, those vehicles are going to be even more OP.
The DMR is fine. Its the maps and settings that stink.
If you are in BTB and you are getting DMR'd you either need to make sure you are near something to block lines of site, or you need to be more aware.
AKA Adapt.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Can't tell if this is a joke btw
Like Halo 2 & 3? The vehicles in Reach & 4 have been significantly weaker. Before Reach, no one ever dodged a chance to get in the gunner of a Warthog, people betrayed for it. Now it's the complete opposite and almost half the time, they just run past because they know how quickly the Warthog can go down.
Vehicles are made to be more powerful than the players, not equal. It's the other team's job to find plasma grenades and anti-vehicles weapons (pick ups) to destroy said vehicle as a team. Give me one rock and a DMR, and I can take out any Ghost in Reach & 4.
xxjuicesxx
Member
to me its rose tinted glasses crap. btb has always sucked.
I dont know what people want with that. Just make random explosions appear from ships up in the sky. That might be it.
thats zany!
BTB was the tits in Halo 2 and 3.
Shit like Heavies is what ruined it because the populace wanted LOL EXPLOSIONS BIG WWEAPONS LOOOLLLLL AC 130
I'll say, the vehicles were better balanced in H2 though. H3 vehicles were the strongest in the series, but a lot of it was because the general population wasn't aware of all the ways to take them down. I loved the strong vehicles in Halo 3. Was an interesting dynamic trying to take them down.
xxjuicesxx
Member
BTB kills parties. Its like two games and everyones like "well i'm sleepy now time to get to bed"
And yea Heavies is a joke, but thats MM playlist management for you.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
An SMG, especially duals, would take down a Banshee much, much faster than a BR would. It was why Team Rifles on Ascension was so broken.
EagleBurnn
Banned
The only reason parties go to BTB is when they get tired of customs, so if anything, BTB just prolongs it.
SPACECADET
Member
What is that, exactly?
EagleBurnn
Banned
xxjuicesxx
Member
stars and bars bonanza.
Banshees weren't a problem in H2. They didn't have the fuel rod.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Bungie finally got rid of their halo database I guess, just when my HDD with all my H3 pics and vids died.
Yeah it's a shame we can't do that yet in H4. I wish bungie.net could have just passed everything, EVERYTHING...over to waypoint.
I don't have a problem with loadouts. With a balanced sandbox they can work, IMO.
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Why the hell do ordnance drops hurt you? Not just the ones that fall from the sky, but the ones that teleport also damage you.
I was backtracking from someone holding a boltshot under the base in Valhalla and the sniper "spawned" in my path, not only blocking me... but also taking half of my shields, which was enough to let the douche with the boltshot to kill me.