Pretty much. Throwdown actually has a lot of Majestic gametypes too. Definitely worth picking up if you like smaller maps
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Pretty much. Throwdown actually has a lot of Majestic gametypes too. Definitely worth picking up if you like smaller maps
FUNKNOWN iXi
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So last night I had a dream that someone at 343 leaked a new map pack to me coming out in June that would be 5 remakes of classic maps lol..
I was going to comment on his silly post last night, but figured it wasn't worth it. Definitely agree with you and IHaveIce.
The trailers were awesome for that reason. Remember when trailers didn't spoil movies and left somethings as a surprise? Remember when nobody knew what the hell Cloverfield was and they never revealed the monster until people saw the movie themselves? That's how you do trailers; it's rare to see movies take bold stances on something different.
I was pleasantly surprised by the movie and it was way better than Iron Man 2. How about that scene where
Incredible.
Sure some things were kinda iffy, but overall it was a pretty damn good super hero movie.
I was going to comment on his silly post last night, but figured it wasn't worth it. Definitely agree with you and IHaveIce.
The trailers were awesome for that reason. Remember when trailers didn't spoil movies and left somethings as a surprise? Remember when nobody knew what the hell Cloverfield was and they never revealed the monster until people saw the movie themselves? That's how you do trailers; it's rare to see movies take bold stances on something different.
I was pleasantly surprised by the movie and it was way better than Iron Man 2. How about that scene where
he saves the people from the airplane?
Best saving-people scene in any Iron Man.
UGC Niagara live stream is up.
Shadow8P's team (some of you have played with him in customs) advances to round 2.
[edit] they should think of moving their mics closer to their voice holes.
[edit2] cheering for Forest City and 4 Rubber Duckies
Shadow8P's team (some of you have played with him in customs) advances to round 2.
[edit] they should think of moving their mics closer to their voice holes.
[edit2] cheering for Forest City and 4 Rubber Duckies
Demoncarnotaur
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I was bummed Halo 4 didn't have anything like this:
I mean, we are on this isolated alien planet created by Forerunners... I was really hoping to experience a living, unique ecosystem. The planet provided cool visuals, but I would really like to see something more unique, alien. Also, speaking of it being a Forerunner planet, where the fuck were these guys:
Not only are they supposedly living on the Infinity, they should have been on Requiem as well.
I mean, we are on this isolated alien planet created by Forerunners... I was really hoping to experience a living, unique ecosystem. The planet provided cool visuals, but I would really like to see something more unique, alien. Also, speaking of it being a Forerunner planet, where the fuck were these guys:
Not only are they supposedly living on the Infinity, they should have been on Requiem as well.
Again I've encountered the bug where your entire screen is blurred and the countdown is stuck at 0 while you are in a match. I didn't want to quit the match but you really can't see a thing.
Why hasn't 343 fixed it already..
I see them all the time in infinity slayer. I think larger parties help.
Why hasn't 343 fixed it already..
I see them all the time in infinity slayer. I think larger parties help.
Orochinagis
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There are only two on the Infinity and Requiem have birds,fungus and sentinels, you can see some forerunners areas were starting to deteriorate without the care of the huragok.
Did Bungie explained if the Halos could had big animals and insects in the Halos ecosystem?
I've only played Skyline in throwdown twice since they added them in V3 and I play almost everyday. Is Monolith even in it?
I think they should take them out and put something else in (a forge map). Skyline is great but if no one has the maps it's not worth the spot it takes up in the gametype rotation.
That's awesome haha
Yea Monolith is in.
It's a tough situation. You would hope that more people would buy the maps to play them in Throwdown rather than taking them out because not everyone has them.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Speaking of DLC, they really need some DLC required playlists already.. Crazy how people spend money on these things and can only play them for such a limited time. Sucks too because the 9 DLC maps are way better than the on-disc maps IMO.
You'd figure by now there would be a DLC filter in Halo Matchmaking ;\
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I refuse to support that game anymore. The only reason I bought it was for the free 1600 points you get from the Microsoft store.
You'd figure by now there would be a DLC filter in Halo Matchmaking ;\
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I refuse to support that game anymore. The only reason I bought it was for the free 1600 points you get from the Microsoft store.
HigherLevel
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I hope 343 makes another small map pack, I know they are supposedly done, but Halo 4 really needs more small maps. The only good ones are Haven, Skyline, and Monolith.
Epic is apparently going to make more small maps outside the original season pass because Gears fans wanted them. Why can't 343 do the same?
Epic is apparently going to make more small maps outside the original season pass because Gears fans wanted them. Why can't 343 do the same?
Dongs Macabre
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Didn't 343 say they are still going to release more content for Halo 4, just not that they've announced yet?
HigherLevel
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Not that I remember, I hope they do though.
Syphon Filter
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Maybe a classic map pack . blood gulch, sidewinder,ivory tower,etc
Wow at that Battlefront 3 stream gaming side. Man, it looks amazing.
Sprint, AAs, Ordnance. They wouldn't be classics (or good) anymore because they wouldn't work in the game.
Sprint, AAs, Ordnance. They wouldn't be classics (or good) anymore because they wouldn't work in the game.
Hope not. Leave the classics out of this game please.
Syphon Filter
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why?
Well they can't recreate them properly because of all the differences between the games and they've failed to make good maps for a while(with 2 or maybe 3 exceptions)
They'd just end up being mediocre maps that no one would play after a few weeks.
Thug Waffle
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I honestly can't believe we've never had a Sidewinder remake. I am probably in the minority by saying that it deserved a remake more than Blood Gulch (which got two, four if you count Valhalla and Ragnarok).
That said, I'd prefer to see the Sidewinder remake in a Halo game I actually care to play a lot, so if it was in 4, I'd be a little disappointed.
Dongs Macabre
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I think some remakes would be fun. Maybe not stuff that could be easily remade, though. I want stuff like Death Island, Danger Canyon, Infinity, and Ice Fields.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I don't know man. The gameplay is so different, we'll never get an actual decent remake.
DLC maps management into the playlists is always awful and those terrible achievements they come up with are really disappointing.
If they managed to recreate the feel for those old maps and actually have them appear often in MM after a couple of weeks, I'd be interested.
Dongs Macabre
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So, is it just me or did they decrease the XP rewards for challenges?
HigherLevel
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I'm cool with maps that spiritual successors like Lockout and Guardian, but direct remakes would not work in Halo 4 with sprint and AAs, I thought we learned this already with the Anniversary Map Pack?
FUNKNOWN iXi
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But just think, surely the remake will be a lot better than any of the on-disc maps. You gonna tell me that a Halo 2 BTB remake won't play better than the Halo 4 BTB maps?
I have no idea what you're talking about seeing as how each of those maps were better than any other Reach map.
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If Halo 4 shipped with a best of Halo 1/2 maps as its selection, then this game would be in much better shape IMO.
Syphon Filter
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They can disable sprint and AA's.
If they did that then the maps would never be in any of the most played playlists.
Infinity
Eh. The DMR's range, binary rifle, gauss hog, camo, jetpack.. blerghsdgbkjsfhgsdfg
Oh and you think they'd actually ever do that?
FUNKNOWN iXi
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The aimbot auto aim/magnetism, the ezZz Snipers, Gauss Hog, double shot, massive host advantage, modders, etc. blerghsdgbkjsfhgsdfg
All things that existed in Halo 2 yet that didn't stop the game from being incredible. The additions to later Halo games would hardly "break" the maps as some people like to be dramatic about.
1v1 me
Doogington
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Reach and 4 need permanent DLC playlists that exclusively features all the DLC maps.
They did. I don't think their inflation experiment had the effect on player retention that they hoped.
They've apparently also instituted a Spartan Ops daily along with its Double XP, probably to help the population problems it was running into.
Thing is, stuff like the Jetpack, altered player traits, DMR range, and Fuel Rod Banshee did break maps like Breakneck in Reach. That thing was a pale shadow compared to the original, largely because the gameplay additions didn't mesh with its original design. Anniversary Classic was novel because of the attempt at making classic settings, but Anniversary Squad was just sad. I sure as hell wouldn't want to play Waterworks where players at mid could five shot players at the Banshee port with ease.
Franklinator
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Kittens, fracas, and I are playing Halo 4 if anyone wants to join. Message Franklinaut if you want to play!
HigherLevel
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In Halo 2 and CE they were amazing maps, but they didn't play well in Reach with AAs and the slow player movement. If Halo is going to stick with AAs I'd rather them try to build maps that are designed with those in mind over bringing back old maps that were designed for an entirely different version of Halo.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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While you're saying it broke the map, I'm saying that it was still way more fun than Boneyard.
Jet Packs may break maps, but I'd rather use Jet Packs on a fun map than a crappy map if it's going to be broken no matter what.
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Headlong was a fun map for things like Jet Pack and other AA's. If they created that map in Halo 4 you guys probably would've been hyped about it if it was erased from our H2 memories.
Can you guys give me some examples then of maps that use Jet Packs and Camo AA's well? lol
Thug Waffle
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I don't count Avalanche the same way I don't really count Valhalla as a true BG remake. Spiritual successor is perhaps a better term for me. Part of that might be because I think Avalanche and Valhalla suck ass.
Which is why I replied to the specific post you made saying those things don't break the map. At this point in the game's life, I'd probably rather have them try something new that takes those new elements into account from day one of their design than have them halfassedly shove a new, jetpacking square peg into a classic round hole, because I know the entire time I was playing Breakneck I was just thinking about how much better it was before a jetpacker could bypass 90% of the defensive base and was able to associate specific memories to that complaint. It's maybe more of a gamble to try and make a new map, but safe bets based on past quality haven't always worked out all that well in Halo's past either (Hey, Blackout. What's up, Hemorrhage?). You're relying on them to be faithful to the original design even with all the new stuff, which is often just as much of a gamble on quality as them trying to start from scratch. Look at it this way: the best remakes (ex: Heretic, Warlock) were faithful in large part because they didn't try to shove in all the new stuff where it didn't belong. With a loadout system, you can't have that kind of QC anymore.
Boneyard is a pathetic quality bar. If that's all we're trying to beat, it wouldn't be difficult. Even a decent effort is a masterpiece when compared to One Flag Boneyard.
...oh. Move along, there's nothing to see here.
In the butt
French! I knew it!
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I didn't notice your edit, but still.. it's really a matter of opinion because I had a lot of fun on Breakneck. Fuel Rods and the DMR hardly broke the map as much as you're suggesting. I know you're also against Ragnarok because of the DMR, but I think it plays better with it since long range fights are actually consistent and don't last 3 mins for a 1v1 BR battle.
Gotta start somewhere. You can't shoot for the stars when all you're producing is Boneyard and The Cage :b
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Regarding the new things like AA's, I don't know man.. Give me some examples of maps that play great with the Jet Pack or Camo. Those AA's are just broken by nature because you can spawn with them, so no map is going to have great gameplay that's "built" around them like some people suggest.
Also, I'm not saying we should only get remakes.. I'm simply pointing out that remakes aren't as bad as people make them out to be, especially when the new maps fail in comparison.
gAg CruSh3r
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With this next weapon update are they nerfing the DMR? ( Aim assisted?)
I believe so. I know the assault rifle is getting a similar treatment. But I just played a game or two with it (BR 4lyf) and the aim assist is freakin crazy.
For some of the best maps that people remember, what was it about those maps that 'worked' where as future iterations of the gameplay then break those maps?
I've seen and can somewhat understand the DMR or light rifle rendering large open areas of the maps unusable (or at least really bad idea to run out aimlessly, but not sure when that approach ever works out well). But then you see a map like skyline, which is pretty small but seems to work with sprint. I recall when halo 3 came out a lot of hate directed toward guardian and the pit, but now they seem to be favorites. My complaint about some new maps is they sometimes feel random without easily identifiable areas. In Reach some of them felt too large, which is why for me squad slayer seemed perfect, seemed to fit the maps better.
It almost sounds like sometime people are essentially saying that with the current gameplay that exists there is no way to actually make a 'good' map, which is something I don't think I can agree with, so really curious what people think makes a map good.
I've seen and can somewhat understand the DMR or light rifle rendering large open areas of the maps unusable (or at least really bad idea to run out aimlessly, but not sure when that approach ever works out well). But then you see a map like skyline, which is pretty small but seems to work with sprint. I recall when halo 3 came out a lot of hate directed toward guardian and the pit, but now they seem to be favorites. My complaint about some new maps is they sometimes feel random without easily identifiable areas. In Reach some of them felt too large, which is why for me squad slayer seemed perfect, seemed to fit the maps better.
It almost sounds like sometime people are essentially saying that with the current gameplay that exists there is no way to actually make a 'good' map, which is something I don't think I can agree with, so really curious what people think makes a map good.
ElzarTheBam
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Hopping on H3, hoping to do some BTB, anyone wanna join moi?
Yessss :3
GG no mic?
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