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[Enfinit]

Considering the population you really can't knock 343i for their relentless sustain of Halo 4. I think they should be proud of that fact and Halo fans should take that as a tick in the win box somewhat.

[paraphrase] "Regardless of the population, we should just be thankful that 343i's doing something at all!"

The reason the population is small in the first place is their mishandling of the franchise. The fact that they're still attempting to correct their mistakes - and they have yet to fully - almost a year after release, what does that say?

 

[squidhands]

If 343 has excelled at anything, it's the creation of a sustain team that updates far more regularly than all of the other games combined.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

I haven't played in a few months, I'll jump back in for a last Halo 4 hurrah when the DLC is out.

 

[willow ve]

If 343 has excelled at anything, it's the creation of a sustain team that updates far more regularly than all of the other games combined.

That's a double edged argument however. It could easily be said the previous games didn't need such wholesale and continuous updating to fix problems.

 

[squidhands]

That's a double edged argument however. It could easily be said the previous games didn't need such wholesale and continuous updating to fix problems.

Halo 3 and Reach needed far more updates than they received, and a sustain team shouldn't be just fixing problems.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

If 343 has excelled at anything, it's the creation of a sustain team that updates far more regularly than all of the other games combined.

Agreed, the level & regularity of visual support and releases have been great.

But ultimately it hasn't helped the game to a point where I want to play it. :-/

 

[J10]

That's a double edged argument however. It could easily be said the previous games didn't need such wholesale and continuous updating to fix problems.

LOL Halo 2 had like 70 title updates. Subsequent games had less and less. Bungie got better as they went on. 343 probably will too.

 

[Booties]

hmmmmm. Only offered 1600 MSP though

 

[kittens]

Halo 3 and Reach needed far more updates than they received, and a sustain team shouldn't be just fixing problems.

Very true.

 

[The Real Napsta]

hmmmmm. Only offered 1600 MSP though

http://i.imgur.com/sKHUdye.jpg[/IG][/QUOTE]

haha thats awesome

[quote="Deadly Cyclone, post: 73532933"]I haven't played in a few months, I'll jump back in for a last Halo 4 hurrah when the DLC is out.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the update bro.

 

[Booties]

haha thats awesome

I asked for like $75, no response back.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Thanks for the update bro.

Uh, what's your deal? People were talking about why they hadn't (or still aren't) playing. I noted my plans to play again when the DLC is out.
Get off my ass. Not the first time you've done it either.

If you'd like to know, I'm eating pizza tonight. Oh, and I'm moving tomorrow. I'll keep you updated!

Anywho, only 3 weeks until that DLC.

 

[Fotos]

The only GT that I offered to pay for was "Nicktatorship" ... A-hole didn't answer my message.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Someone please educate these people.
http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/1ja47m/i_dont_understand_the_halo_4_doesnt_feel_like/

 

[LD2k]

Those gamer fury tweets at the CoD devs are fucking ridiculous... It's one thing to be passionate about the game, to express disappointment or even anger, but those tweets are too much. Nothing but vitriol, harassment, abuse and death threats not only against devs but their family, and for what? I don't even want to call myself a gamer anymore because I just don't want to associate with these kinds of people. They should really contact the FBI or Law Enforcement, track down the people through IP addresses, contact them or their ISP and send them official warnings at first that violent death threats are against state or federal laws, really scare the shit out of these, and I'm assuming, kids or maybe show the parents just what their kids are using social media for.

Yup - it's one of the dark sides to social media. That said, myself like many others realize there's more to the gaming community than someone sending a death tweet.

I've actually screen-capped some of the ones towards me. <3

 

[Mix]

My nine year old brother and I just finished Halo CE together for the first time and I am extremely proud of him. He understood everything very well, had a couple of lore questions before and I answered them without spoiling the other games too much. He even has a favorite character. 343 Guilt Spark. He likes how he tried to trick Master Chief into firing the Halo ring.

So, tomorrow night, we are going to start Halo 2. When he saw the halo blow up he asked me how there could be a Halo 2, and I told him He'd just have to see.

 

[FyreWulff]

If 343 has excelled at anything, it's the creation of a sustain team that updates far more regularly than all of the other games combined.

They've all gotten updates at least once monthly. They didn't do much better with transitioning to the next game, Reach's final updates were cancelled and it stopped updating 3 or 4 months before Halo 4 came out. 3 and 2 at least got updates up until right until the next game came out. There was also that limbo period between 343 taking over Reach and when they actually started updating it in earnest.

Spoiler

I'm still of the opinion that Bungie should have been allowed to update it until Halo 4 came out.

It's a shame the weekly update thing didn't last, but I guess that was a 'bit off more than they could chew' moment.

 

[User 73706]

I'm honestly not sure I want voting to return in Halo V: Repair Your Janus. In Halo 3 it was alright because there was still a big enough community to promote some diversity, but I feel like Halo 4's mostly just full of stat-padding trolls and redditors at this point. Let's play Infinity Abandon over Pro Haven!

 

[Nowise10]

Someone please educate these people.
http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/1ja47m/i_dont_understand_the_halo_4_doesnt_feel_like/

I was literally going to post the same thing.

The fan-boyism in r/halo is tough to deal with. You post anything against 343 or Halo 4, and 95% of the time you'll get downvoted to shit.

I saw a comment the other day claiming most of Halo 4's issues were from Reach, as if Bungie were to blame, and I couldnt believe how someone could think that. I bet if I were to ask them "why should I play Halo 4 again?" 80% of the rplies would be because the BR is 4 shot now, rather then 5, as if that changes anything.

 

[J10]

I'm honestly not sure I want voting to return in Halo V: Repair Your Janus. In Halo 3 it was alright because there was still a big enough community to promote some diversity, but I feel like Halo 4's mostly just full of stat-padding trolls and redditors at this point. Let's play Infinity Abandon over Pro Haven!

If they stop designing bad maps and gameplay mechanics this won't be a problem. Every option should just be awesome. That would solve everything.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

I was literally going to post the same thing.

The fan-boyism in r/halo is tough to deal with. You post anything against 343 or Halo 4, and 95% of the time you'll get downvoted to shit.

I saw a comment the other day claiming most of Halo 4's issues were from Reach, as if Bungie were to blame, and I couldnt believe how someone could think that. I bet if I were to ask them "why should I play Halo 4 again?" 80% of the rplies would be because the BR is 4 shot now, rather then 5, as if that changes anything.

I feel like these people played Halo 3, then CoD and saw that Halo 4 is HaloCod and enjoy it.

 

[kittens]

The gunplay and metagame in Halo 1 is still unmatched.

I used to be pretty staunchly in the H2/H3 camp, but over the past few months I've gained a new appreciation for the simultaneous simplicity and depth of Halo 1 multiplayer. It's the Halo MP I've played the least BY FAR, and now I'm realizing how big of a shame that is. I can't say it beats Halo 2 in my eyes, but I really love what it has to offer regardless.

My nine year old brother and I just finished Halo CE together for the first time and I am extremely proud of him. He understood everything very well, had a couple of lore questions before and I answered them without spoiling the other games too much. He even has a favorite character. 343 Guilt Spark. He likes how he tried to trick Master Chief into firing the Halo ring.

So, tomorrow night, we are going to start Halo 2. When he saw the halo blow up he asked me how there could be a Halo 2, and I told him He'd just have to see.

That's awesome! I love playing Halo campaign with kids. Which, being a babysitter and all, I get to do fairly often.

 

[User 73706]

If they stop designing bad maps and gameplay mechanics this won't be a problem. Every option should just be awesome. That would solve everything.

As great as that sounds we both know that's not possible. Remember Backwash?

AR Starts on Valhalla?
Standoff Heavies?
Team Duals on Snowbound?

Breakpoint Heavies?

Speaking of that last one, I somehow managed to worm my way into the initial Heavies playtesting. Breakpoint consisted of hillside team getting donged by Banshees and Gauss Hogs for 20 minutes, ended up 100-12 or something.

"Yeah, I'll have to look into that and figure out a way to balance the hogs."

My first matchmade game of Breakpoint Heavies consisted of pretty much the same scenario. They added some Invasion barricades for us to spawn behind.

 

[J10]

I remember Backwash fondly.

 

[IHaveIce]

They've all gotten updates at least once monthly. They didn't do much better with transitioning to the next game, Reach's final updates were cancelled and it stopped updating 3 or 4 months before Halo 4 came out. 3 and 2 at least got updates up until right until the next game came out. There was also that limbo period between 343 taking over Reach and when they actually started updating it in earnest.

Spoiler

I'm still of the opinion that Bungie should have been allowed to update it until Halo 4 came out.

It's a shame the weekly update thing didn't last, but I guess that was a 'bit off more than they could chew' moment.

Well the question is if Bungie would have updated it at all and if they had implemented No Bloom etc.

I'm honestly not sure I want voting to return in Halo V: Repair Your Janus. In Halo 3 it was alright because there was still a big enough community to promote some diversity, but I feel like Halo 4's mostly just full of stat-padding trolls and redditors at this point. Let's play Infinity Abandon over Pro Haven!

There was no voting in Halo 3, Vetoing was much different and way better IMo also for diversity

 

[The Real Napsta]

Uh, what's your deal? People were talking about why they hadn't (or still aren't) playing. I noted my plans to play again when the DLC is out.
Get off my ass. Not the first time you've done it either.

If you'd like to know, I'm eating pizza tonight. Oh, and I'm moving tomorrow. I'll keep you updated!

Anywho, only 3 weeks until that DLC.

Good luck on the move, make sure you keep that Surface Pro safe!

 

[TCKaos]

I was literally going to post the same thing.

The fan-boyism in r/halo is tough to deal with. You post anything against 343 or Halo 4, and 95% of the time you'll get downvoted to shit.

I saw a comment the other day claiming most of Halo 4's issues were from Reach, as if Bungie were to blame, and I couldnt believe how someone could think that. I bet if I were to ask them "why should I play Halo 4 again?" 80% of the rplies would be because the BR is 4 shot now, rather then 5, as if that changes anything.

I made a post calling to not post the leaks the week before launch and got downvoted to oblivion. It was fun.

 

[heckfu]

My nine year old brother and I just finished Halo CE together for the first time and I am extremely proud of him. He understood everything very well, had a couple of lore questions before and I answered them without spoiling the other games too much. He even has a favorite character. 343 Guilt Spark. He likes how he tried to trick Master Chief into firing the Halo ring.

So, tomorrow night, we are going to start Halo 2. When he saw the halo blow up he asked me how there could be a Halo 2, and I told him He'd just have to see.

How nice it must be to see someone get to play through Halo for the first time with no prior (real) knowledge. Are you able to play Halo 2 on the OG Xbox or the 360? Such a shame it'd be to show off that piece of art with all the ghosting on the current console.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Good luck on the move, make sure you keep that Surface Pro safe!

If you're just messing I didn't mean to come off a bit harsh, I honestly couldn't tell.

 

[Homeboyd]

Come on bae

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

That r/Halo thread makes me sad.

 

[DeadNames]

I liked vetoing a lot more. With voting I end up playing the same few maps over and over and it's just boring. Vetoing allowed for a lot more maps to be played

 

[Enfinit]

That r/Halo thread makes me sad.

It's like Waypoint for Internet-savvy folks.

 

[Mix]

How nice it must be to see someone get to play through Halo for the first time with no prior (real) knowledge. Are you able to play Halo 2 on the OG Xbox or the 360? Such a shame it'd be to show off that piece of art with all the ghosting on the current console.

Nah man, we have to play it on 360 unfortunately :/
Plus, as you said, it's unreal watching him learn and play the game. at one point on Keyes, he told me to use a shotgun because he knew it worked really well on the Flood. I'm so proud :3

 

[Gui_PT]

Nah man, we have to play it on 360 unfortunately :/
Plus, as you said, it's unreal watching him learn and play the game. at one point on Keyes, he told me to use a shotgun because he knew it worked really well on the Flood. I'm so proud :3

"I love my little brother. Going to spend some time with him BY KILLING EVERYTHING THAT MOVES"

<3

 

[Risen]

Nah man, we have to play it on 360 unfortunately :/
Plus, as you said, it's unreal watching him learn and play the game. at one point on Keyes, he told me to use a shotgun because he knew it worked really well on the Flood. I'm so proud :3

I let my son play MW3 for the first time against people when he was 6 - he went 4-10 on Fallen and called all four of the kids he killed "bad kids". It was beautiful. I'm not sure I've ever laughed so hard.

He and the girls play little FFA's in Halo all the time, it's a blast - and it's crazy the things they immediately pick up.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Can you believe Halo 2 will be ten years old next year. Dam time flies.

 

[Booties]

Halo 2 was pretty good.

 

[Mix]

Elzar's mom was pretty good.

FTFY

 

[m23]

I liked vetoing a lot more. With voting I end up playing the same few maps over and over and it's just boring. Vetoing allowed for a lot more maps to be played

Yeah I agree. I'm getting pretty sick of Haven even though I have fun with it.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Lol, some guys said that Halo multiplayer is bullet-spongey in that thread about games that are bullet-spongey.

Halo Campaign is pretty bullet-spongey, though, but that encourages you to use different strategies.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Lol, some guys said that Halo multiplayer is bullet-spongey in that thread about games that are bullet-spongey.

They were.

 

[willow ve]

I remember Backwash fondly.

I miss BTB on Standoff and the opening grenade spam to disable the hogs.

Hell, I miss the opening rush in Halo altogether. Closest thing that emulates that feeling is the Legendary playlist.

 

[NobleGundam]

Hey 343, I have a cool idea for the Flood to look more appealing in New Halo games.

Since the flood are practically Parasitic Fungi, why not add more Glowy-ness to them?
Not like Gears of Wars "Lambents".

These are Fox-Fire or Fairie Fire Fungi that have Bio Luminescence.

By adding a New Glowies type of Flood form to offensively attack a player being the more rampant aggressor it distracts the player(s) to eliminate it immediately while simultaneously allowing other darker Flood forms to Infect, Metamorphosis, or advance into strategic positions to strike said players. Light, Movement, and Sounds distract the players senses.

Imo, it'll add a new experience to combat the flood.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I used to be pretty staunchly in the H2/H3 camp, but over the past few months I've gained a new appreciation for the simultaneous simplicity and depth of Halo 1 multiplayer. It's the Halo MP I've played the least BY FAR, and now I'm realizing how big of a shame that is. I can't say it beats Halo 2 in my eyes, but I really love what it has to offer regardless.

Yeah man, it really is a shame. I truly believe that if Halo 1 multiplayer was able to reach the masses like Halo 2+ did, you'd see a completely different Halo right now. Just think about how the gaming landscape was back when Halo 2 released and what it is today; it's night and day. Nothing is more disappointing than to see what was once a phenomenal casual and competitive gaming experience being turned something where so many long time fans feel betrayed because of poor management and terrible design choices.


OT but Smash Bros. is a franchise that we're seeing the same thing happen to, just over a longer period with less releases. Just a few examples:

Smash 64 was like Halo 1: Simple and clean with a lot of depth for all levels of play.
Melee was like Halo 2: The game that reached the masses which people are clamoring for a return to with its formula.
Brawl was like Halo 3/Reach/4: While trying to appeal to a wider audience, the mistake of dumbing down the gameplay was made, affecting all areas of the game.

And after seeing how Smash Wii U plays, it's looking to me like it'll be much closer to how Brawl plays than 64/Melee.. much like Halo 4 and Reach. The Smash fans have no idea the disappointment they may be in for lol.. Smash Wii U hopefully won't be to Brawl as to what Halo 4 was to Reach, so fingers crossed because if it sucks you can pretty much guarantee fans will be stuck with that game for another decade because.. well.. Nintendo.

 

[The Real Napsta]

If you're just messing I didn't mean to come off a bit harsh, I honestly couldn't tell.

I'm just messing bro, sorry if I irritated you.

 

[BlueScrote]

Yeah man, it really is a shame. I truly believe that if Halo 1 multiplayer was able to reach the masses like Halo 2+ did, you'd see a completely different Halo right now. Just think about how the gaming landscape was back when Halo 2 released and what it is today; it's night and day. Nothing is more disappointing than to see what was once a phenomenal casual and competitive gaming experience being turned something where so many long time fans feel betrayed because of poor management and terrible design choices.


OT but Smash Bros. is a franchise that we're seeing the same thing happen to, just over a longer period with less releases. Just a few examples:

Smash 64 was like Halo 1: Simple and clean with a lot of depth for all levels of play.
Melee was like Halo 2: The game that reached the masses which people are clamoring for a return to with its formula.
Brawl was like Halo 3/Reach/4: While trying to appeal to a wider audience, the mistake of dumbing down the gameplay was made, affecting all areas of the game.

And after seeing how Smash Wii U plays, it's looking to me like it'll be much closer to how Brawl plays than 64/Melee.. much like Halo 4 and Reach. The Smash fans have no idea the disappointment they may be in for lol.. Smash Wii U hopefully won't be to Brawl as to what Halo 4 was to Reach, so fingers crossed because if it sucks you can pretty much guarantee fans will be stuck with that game for another decade because.. well.. Nintendo.

I disagree on the account that Smash 64 had a lot of depth for all levels of play, at least compared to melee. Melee had tons more depth for competitive play.

 

[FyreWulff]

Well the question is if Bungie would have updated it at all

yes

and if they had implemented No Bloom etc.

Maybe. They were already removing Armor Lock from any new playlists, for example.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

[paraphrase] "Regardless of the population, we should just be thankful that 343i's doing something at all!"

The reason the population is small in the first place is their mishandling of the franchise. The fact that they're still attempting to correct their mistakes - and they have yet to fully - almost a year after release, what does that say?

It says they care about their games, the fans and work damned hard at sustain, that's all my point was. It also shows a company willing to learn and admit mistakes, in the corporate world these are traits I like. After all they could have just Phil Fish'd us

 

[Fuchsdh]

Hey 343, I have a cool idea for the Flood to look more appealing in New Halo games.

Since the flood are practically Parasitic Fungi, why not add more Glowy-ness to them?
Not like Gears of Wars "Lambents".

These are Fox-Fire or Fairie Fire Fungi that have Bio Luminescence.

By adding a New Glowies type of Flood form to offensively attack a player being the more rampant aggressor it distracts the player(s) to eliminate it immediately while simultaneously allowing other darker Flood forms to Infect, Metamorphosis, or advance into strategic positions to strike said players. Light, Movement, and Sounds distract the players senses.

Imo, it'll add a new experience to combat the flood.

The strength of the Flood is that they can be anything.

The weakness of the Flood is that they can be anything.

It says they care about their games, the fans and work damned hard at sustain, that's all my point was. It also shows a company willing to learn and admit mistakes, in the corporate world these are traits I like. After all they could have just Phil Fish'd us

Saying that "MS hasn't Phil Fish'd us" is a pretty low bar. Anyone with an ounce of professionalism doesn't go Fish on people