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[User 73706]

I kept reading on GAF that Microsoft' confirmed that HDCP is disabled when playing games, so Capture Cards will work on the Xbox One. So it's just like this gen, guys with capture devices are still good.

Seriously though, I wonder WHY the limit is 5 minutes, anyone know why it even has a limit?

Something like 15 seems much better, but the big issue is HD space.

If you only have a 500GB one right off the bat and decide to go fully digital this generation, on top of rendering however many snippets of 5 minute 720p video, that's already a lot of memory taken up.

Plus, if there isn't an obvious indicator, a limitless capture function could be left on as a background process by accident and your One would explode from running out of room to do shit.

 

[Silly.Mikey]

Something like 15 seems much better, but the big issue is HD space.

If you only have a 500GB one right off the bat and decide to go fully digital this generation, on top of rendering however many snippets of 5 minute 720p video, that's already a lot of memory taken up.

Plus, if there isn't an obvious indicator, a limitless capture function could be left on as a background process by accident and your One would explode from running out of room to do shit.

But but.....cloud!

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

But but.....cloud!

Right. Are people thinking they are important enough for MS to host a server farm so they can cap footage?

like it was stated earlier, people serious about capping already have a system set up for it.

 

[Silly.Mikey]

Right. Are people thinking they are important enough for MS to host a server farm so they can cap footage?

like it was stated earlier, people serious about capping already have a system set up for it.

I think im important enough by paying 50$ a year.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Something like 15 seems much better, but the big issue is HD space.

If you only have a 500GB one right off the bat and decide to go fully digital this generation, on top of rendering however many snippets of 5 minute 720p video, that's already a lot of memory taken up.

Plus, if there isn't an obvious indicator, a limitless capture function could be left on as a background process by accident and your One would explode from running out of room to do shit.

15 minutes of compressed 720p video probably won't fill up a 500 GB hard drive though. :/ That should allow you to record as much as possible, only stopping you when your Hard Drive memory gets lowering than 10GBs, and be able to record on an external Hard Drive as well.

The Amazon box art for Halo (Xbox One Edition) is amazing.

 

[DeadNames]

What if halo 5 goes back to the classic halo formula and has great forge, campaign, firefight AND spartan ops?

I'd be pretty damn shocked.

 

[User 73706]

The Amazon box art for Halo (Xbox One Edition) is amazing.

 

[Fracas]

What if halo 5 goes back to the classic halo formula and has great forge, campaign, firefight AND spartan ops?

I'd be pretty damn shocked.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment again.

 

[Silly.Mikey]

What if halo 5 goes back to the classic halo formula and has great forge, campaign, firefight AND spartan ops?

I'd be pretty damn shocked.

You say that as if its a crazy idea. In every game Bungie did, they outdid themselves in the features department. They always added shit without taking any away. I don't see why this is a crazy impossible idea now. If 343 needs to hire more people, then hire more people. But get it done.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Speedy:

 

[Sai-kun]

You say that as if its a crazy idea. In every game Bungie did, they outdid themselves in the features department. They always added shit without taking any away. I don't see why this is a crazy impossible idea now. If 343 needs to hire more people, then hire more people. But get it done.

why talk about what bungie did when it's pretty clear that 343 doesn't work the same way?

 

[Steelyuhas]

Speedy:

Doesn't satisfy the blue-orange rule, marketing will not sign off.

 

[Silly.Mikey]

why talk about what bungie did when it's pretty clear that 343 doesn't work the same way?

Because if they don't shape up, 343 will be the end of Halo.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Has this ever been discussed?

 

[DeadNames]

Because if they don't shape up, 343 will be the end of Halo.

I'd say halo is six feet under atm. 343 has a chance to revive it though... They just need to deliver. A lot.

 

[Silly.Mikey]

I'd say halo is six feet under atm. 343 has a chance to revive it though... They just need to deliver. A lot.

Which is why i mentioned Bungie. They, for the most-part, always delivered in terms of adding features to what was already there. Maybe i was naive, but i fully expected that in 4. I never expected to not be able to play certain game-types anymore..... Halo5s road starts by putting everything you took away in 4 back into the core game, and add to that.

 

[DeadNames]

Which is why i mentioned Bungie. They, for the most-part, always delivered in terms of adding features to what was already there. Maybe i was naive, but i fully expected that in 4. I never expected to not be able to play certain game-types anymore..... Halo5s road starts by putting everything you took away in 4 back into the core game, and add to that.

Gameplay > features. It's more or less evident that halos gameplay has gone down over the years. Halo 5 can have A ton of neat features but if the game isnt fun to play... What's the point?

 

[NobleGundam]

Has this ever been discussed?

Yes and its old

 

[Syphon Filter]

Yes and its old

what was the conclusion?

 

[Tawpgun]

what was the conclusion?

People over thinking it.

 

[DeadNames]

what was the conclusion?

It would be weird if chief was just wearing his helmet and forearm guard....

 

[Syphon Filter]

People over thinking it.

That's what i was thinking.

 

[User 73706]

 

[NobleGundam]

what was the conclusion?

Theoretically that chief has missing armor
And he is purposely wearing the desert cloak

Don't know how or why, but My Theory is either these things:

• He's gone rogue (possibly but not likely)
• Fought an epic battle and got fucked up in the process by bad alien or forerunner guys.
• ONI & UNSC Assholes Tried to Exterminate him through cover ups & conspiracies.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Has this ever been discussed?

Can't you see Chief's leggings/boots when the whateverthehellthatthingwas rises from the ground?

 

[FyreWulff]

Just imagine if they had a public beta prior the release...

I may just be shooting the shit here but the beta probably didn't happen due to Halo 4's development clusterfuck. When you're stating your game is in pre-alpha 6 months out from RTM, you're in trouble.

Shipping a beta (especially on the 360) is almost like shipping a finished game in terms of manpower. Developers hate demos for the same reason. They're a separate branch that must be worked on.

A beta usually has two issues: it's based off an old build, and it has to go through cert just like any other game. So you basically snapshot a decent idea of what you have so far, then clean that up so people can actually play the game properly. Halo 3's beta was an old build, and so was Reach's (I seem to vaguely remember that by the time the Reach beta came out, Reach's vehicles had already been reworked in the current dev trunk).

By the time Reach rolled around, Bungie had their dev process down to a more well oiled machine after the terrorfuck that was Halo 2. They had experience from the Halo 3 public beta.

343 didn't have the experience and Halo 4, as obvious as it is and as not nice as it sounds, came in fucking hot. Losing time and manpower for a Halo 4 beta, with my broad assumptions and viewpoint of both company dev processes, was just not on the table. It was Halo 2 2: Ludohorrorschau Zwei.

 

[Orochinagis]

RIP punch to the stomach and shoryuken.

 

[The Henery]

Reckon they'll do a Halo 5 beta?

Cause I don't. Seems too fan oriented/not shareholder centric enough for the modern day Halo product.

 

[Fuchsdh]

I think im important enough by paying 50$ a year.

And you're going to be getting those 300,000 dedi's.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Reckon they'll do a Halo 5 beta?

Cause I don't. Seems too fan oriented/not shareholder centric enough for the modern day Halo product.

No, and primarily for the reasons the Fyre listed above, especially with an assumed 2 year dev cycle for their next game, a public beta just takes up a lot of resources and time.

 

[blamite]

Something like 15 seems much better, but the big issue is HD space.

If you only have a 500GB one right off the bat and decide to go fully digital this generation, on top of rendering however many snippets of 5 minute 720p video, that's already a lot of memory taken up.

Plus, if there isn't an obvious indicator, a limitless capture function could be left on as a background process by accident and your One would explode from running out of room to do shit.

I might be misunderstanding things but the impression I get isn't that you can only record up to five minutes, it's that in addition to whatever happens after you press the record button, you'll constantly have your last five minutes recorded, so if something cool happens when you're not recording, as long as it was withing the past five minutes, you can just rewind and it will still have been saved.

I've never heard of either MS or Sony restricting the length of clips you can record.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Reckon they'll do a Halo 5 beta?

Cause I don't. Seems too fan oriented/not shareholder centric enough for the modern day Halo product.

I think the 2 year turn out is the bigger factor. So I don't think it's likely.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

I just realized that Halo is no longer a annual franchise, since there hasn't been a Halo game released in 2013.

Spoiler

Spartan Assault doesn't count damn it

343 should keep it this way, I don't want another Halo game after Halo One, except for a Halo 2 Anniversary or something. Hmm... I wonder if Halo One will honor Halo 2 at all, maybe Halo 2 maps are remade for Halo One, that would be fine by me, have 10 or so original maps and another few remakes from Halo 2.

 

[Syphon Filter]

I just realized that Halo is no longer a annual franchise, since there hasn't been a Halo game released in 2013.

Spoiler

Spartan Assault doesn't count damn it

343 should keep it this way, I don't want another Halo game after Halo One, except for a Halo 2 Anniversary or something. Hmm... I wonder if Halo One will honor Halo 2 at all, maybe Halo 2 maps are remade for Halo One, that would be fine by me, have 10 or so original maps and another few remakes from Halo 2.

Halo was never an annual franchise.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Halo was never an annual franchise.

Games released in 2007, 2 in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.

Six games in six years, pretty annual.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Games released in 2007, 2 in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.

Six games in six years, pretty annual.

wars and odst don't count. one is an expansion and the other is an rts. Halo ann was a re-release of an already released game.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

wars and odst don't count. one is an expansion and the other is an rts. Halo ann was a re-release of an already released game.

Sounds like there was a largely full price release in the franchise every year for a few years.

So I disagree.

 

[Steelyuhas]

wars and odst don't count. one is an expansion and the other is an rts. Halo ann was a re-release of an already released game.

They are all games in the Halo franchise, so I have no idea how they "don't count".

The "expansion" was full-priced, so I'm not how how that gets called an expansion either.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Sounds like there was a largely full price release in the franchise every year for a few years.

So I disagree.

That's MS being MS. they knew they could get away charging that much for a re release and expansion.

 

[Syphon Filter]

They are all games in the Halo franchise, so I have no idea how they "don't count".

The "expansion" was full-priced, so I'm not how how that gets called an expansion either.

Expansion was MS charging more like i said. Then count the Halo phone game if we use this logic, Lego batman in the batman franchise,etc.

 

[Nowise10]

...Halo Wars doesnt count as a game release because its an RTS, and ODST doesnt count because it was an "expansion" that cost $60 and had a midnight launch and came in a case.

k.

 

[Syphon Filter]

...Halo Wars doesnt count as a game release because its an RTS, and ODST doesnt count because it was an "expansion" that cost $60 and had a midnight launch and came in a case.

k.

What does price and midnight launch/cases have to do with any of this.

 

[CyReN]

Testing descope - http://www.twitch.tv/gobeyondent

 

[Omni]

I might get on some Halo Wars today, actually.

 

[FyreWulff]

That's MS being MS. they knew they could get away charging that much for a re release and expansion.

It was actually apparently due to their policy on multi disc games. Multi disc has to be 60$ new.

Hence the Anniversary Reach disc multiplayer clusterfuck, being available for 40$ new

 

[Fuchsdh]

Listening to the Halo Spartan Assault OST now. It's pretty solid, and I think it's actually better than Rippy's Wars music (although I think that's partially due to the fact that Rippy had a harder task with RTS music.)

I loved the work he did on CEA though, which I think after repeated listenings has become my favorite Halo OST, period (excluding that rewriting of the guitar solo though, there wasn't much of a reason for that.) It's just so alien-sounding, and it sounds like what I always imagined the original OST sounded like.

In short: 343, get this guy and Kazuma Jinnouchi together and have them run on Halo stuff in the future. Davidge was good but I think you're going to get a lot more bang for your buck, and a more authentic Halo sound, by sticking with these guys.

Also on that note, has anyone here ordered the H4 OST Vol 2 off the official site? Damn thing didn't give me a code or anything, it acted like it was shipping a physical item, so I've contacted support.

 

[Nowise10]

What does price and midnight launch/cases have to do with any of this.

To show that is indeed a game, and that it indeed was released, and is indeed classified as a launched Halo game, adding into into the timeline of 2009..

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

I just ordered a 65" Panny plasma. OhgodwhatamIdoing.

 

[The Henery]

No, and primarily for the reasons the Fyre listed above, especially with an assumed 2 year dev cycle for their next game, a public beta just takes up a lot of resources and time.

Fyre's post accentuated the amount of effort and work that goes into a beta. Makes you appreciate bungie and a three year dev cycle even more (not that those beta's were entirely selfless; I'm aware that they were hooks to drive sales of Crackdown and ODST).

 

[Madness]

I just ordered a 65" Panny plasma. OhgodwhatamIdoing.

You're going to enjoy the hell out of it. Unless you buy the very pinnacle of LED televisions, and I'm talking about the flagship versions, nothing touches Plasma. Which model did you get?