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User 73706
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I think part of the problem is that 343 only ever uses one sense of identification to differentiate weapon projectiles compared to Bungie.
Bungie has one exception: the Plasma Rifle and Plasma Pistol used the same firing sound effect in CE, but were green and blue. Other than that, though, most weapons usually had a pretty unique sound effect and a varied projectile. Hence why the Carbine ammo was green like the Plasma Pistol, but had wavelength-esque tracers and a more "hazy" sound effect compared to the "muted" plasma slap noises of the Plasma Pistol. 343, on the other hand, typically has a lot of overlap. Really, the non-melee weapons can be put in four categories:
UNSC: yellow or white tracers on bullets, pitch-shifted irl firing noises
UNSC ballistics: black shell with a yellow or white glow, easily-mistaken SFX
Covenant: different cold-colored blobs, near-identical-sounding cold, flange-filled weapon SFX. Note how the Storm Rifle and Needler sound pretty similar save for the Needler's additional "glassplosion" supercombine effect.
Forerunner: warm-colored blobs, sound effects are "digital" and rely extensively on screwing with the same audio samples by slowing things down (see: Binary Rifle, Incineration Cannon, Pulse Grenade, Light Rifle zoom-in...) so Promethean tech is debatably the worst at identification
Fun fact: Bungie was so limited by their engine that they only really used two or three muzzle flare effects in ALL of Halo 3 - and even doubled it as the Plasma Grenade explosion's electricity - but relied on palette swaps and different SFX to make sure they were different.
The problem now is that 343's going for real, grimdark, squishyvisceral metal sound effects. They didn't take into account that a lot of weapons have pretty damn similar ammo types (such as "bullet," "larger bullet" and "grenade") and underlying tech and as a result they sound pretty close in real life. While sure, it makes sense in-universe, it doesn't make for a very helpful experience in multiplayer... or campaign, for that matter, because you think the giant-ass Promethean with the huge silhouette is the same rank as a near-identical Promethean whose main indicator of rank is glowing, which is cut out after a certain draw distance. Is that a Light Rifle? Nope, it's a BFG that shoots a Combat Evolved rocket that explodes into Combat Evolved grenades, and you can't strafe because your movement's the demon seed of Halo 2 and Halo Reach.
Bonus fun fact: I never found the Prometheans to be that annoying in terms of bullet sponges after my first playthrough because I'm lame and pack a Plasma Pistol / Suppressor for the shields most of the time, but on Legendary with no help from Skulls, a Knight Battlewagon can withstand a direct hit from the Incineration Cannon's primary projectile. The satellite explosives will kill it, but god help you if it manages to teleport. It may not seem like much considering everyone has absurd health on Legendary... except no other enemy type in-game can tank a hit like that. Not even a Wraith.
So far it's been great, I put in 4 hours last night but stopped after I beat the first gym leader. My OHKO Fennekin evolved so that was pretty cool, except the evolved form is kinda silly looking. I got the exp share and started leveling up my newly acquired psyduck and pikachu. The exp share feels like I'm cheating but I just want to catch up my newer pokemon so they aren't so useless, then maybe I'll disable it. I read on the gaming side that in Lumiose City there was a save glitch so i didn't want to task any chances. Coming from pokemon red a lot has changed, so now I'm just reading some guides before I dive back in.
How far along are you in the game now and what's your lineup looking like? My friend code is 0877-0905-0256 if you want to add me.
Prinz Eugn
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I think I was talking to Daedaliusiusius last week about how a lot of Halo 4 designs seemed to have been nerfed by a design-by-committee mentality. It just seems like implementations ideas that may have been great overall but confused Nancy from accounting (like color-coded AA's or Promethean weapons that didn't all look the same) got nixed out of hand for extra-safe alternatives.
This is the nerdiest thing I've ever read on GAF.
Have you seen any of Wahrer's posts or read ANY other thread on the gaming side? Half the posts on this page alone are people playing pretend developer, so whatever.
Until this one you mean right?
Exp share isn't that bad considering trainers get way stronger in the game and it lets you not have to grind all the time. Also make sure to use Pokemie amie or whatever and get max affection to get a EXP boost for your Pokemon who battles.
Im at the elite 4 right now (28 hours in) also my current line up is
Greninja-Mild lvl 80 (max EV)
Charizard-Jolly lvl 61 (Max EV)
Garchomp-Rash lvl 56
Sylveon-Docile lvl 55 (Max EV....great Pokemon)
Aerodactyl-Brave lvl 59
Xerneas-Timid lvl 59
Friend Code: 4983-4923-7618
Prinz Eugn
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I think the nerdiest threads are the Pacific Rim ones trying really super hard to justify giant robots fighting monster because it totally makes sense if you think about it guys. Pokemon's not really that nerdy since you'd be hard pressed to find someone born since the late 80's who doesn't know anything about it.
Zoso Achilles
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Hmm, I might be asleep by then, I'm a babby.
it's hard to read what's on ignore
Wait until you read my Spartan Ops love stories.
Orochinagis
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User 73706
Banned
I frequented the OT until it died off, man.
Wahrer for Chief Primordial Nerd Shitlord confirmed
I was born in the early 80's and literally don't know one thing about it. I always assumed it was a kid's thing. Not hating, I just know nothing about it.
I'm an asshole. What do I know anyways?
User 73706
Banned
iirc it's meant for now-grown kids who grew up with the 'giant monsters fighting giant robots' crowd, but it's also meant to introduce kids of this generation to the same crowd because Power Rangers is sort of in the Nickelodeon Live Action Ghetto at this point.
Zoso Achilles
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Depends if I'm bad or not.
aHebrewMenagerie
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David Ellis alt?
Wario what r u doing. Change your name back.
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Why did I click that link? Damn you, sir.
aHebrewMenagerie
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Syphon Filter
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Return of the king tomorrow. Imagine Halo 3 makes the top 3 and stays there for the duration of this gen.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Where the fuck have you been, shit's been dead,his wife's been the town whore and his kids are in foster care.
Gimme dat Halo 5.
Prinz Eugn
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Naw, it is a kid's thing, but I think it's like how Lego is a kid's thing but also a cultural phenomena above and beyond that. But you need that nostalgia to get re-into it, if that makes sense.
It does. Legos go hard in the paint... I mean I don't play with them now but I guess I get it. I supposed I'm different from most here as I don't have or collect action figures, etc... I don't even know what I'm doing here.
User 73706
Banned
You should hire these guys. I'd personally kill for DLC where au!palmer and cishet!thorne run a coffee shop together after the war.
Prinz Eugn
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Oh, you and your new coffee shop fetish...
I wouldn't say it's a kid's game at all. Look at it like a Pixar film; there's plenty of appeal to a younger audience, yet adults will find a lot in it too.
User 73706
Banned
fuck I swear it wasn't on purpose
I really need to get used to this new username already
Prinz Eugn
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It is for the most part, their target market has not historically been adults although it looks like that might be changing. I played Heart Gold recently and I would honestly say that while there are deeper elements that adults can appreciate, it's still very much a kid's game. I guess the newer titles might be different?
User 73706
Banned
It's a kid's game at its core, but the underlying game mechanics for getting a "perfect" team are still very adult. A random kiddo playing with his favorites is going to be thrashed by someone who's aborted trillions of baby Pokemon in favor of getting the "purebreds." For example, take a RBY favorite like Gyarados:
Pretty cool guy, right? Teach him Surf so you can get around, Hyper Beam, other powerful moves, level him up and you're set! You can destroy anything in your way.
And then take a look at what the fat guys serving as the premiere source for competitive battles have written up about him.
Can't right now but I'm up for it tomorrow or something.
Fuck, when even the Sudd's leave to CoD, you know the series is trouble.
Are you serious? Kids are morons. Nothing they do should be of consequence to anyone.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Except be ugly, thus making pussy more available to the rest of us. Plus they are poster children for birth control.
Outlaw Torn
Member
Halo 3 is now available for free.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/P...7fe-1000-9115-d8024d5307e6?cid=SLink#LiveZone
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/P...7fe-1000-9115-d8024d5307e6?cid=SLink#LiveZone
StalkerUKCG
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1 and Done.
This one actually gets pretty dark since the 2 legendary Pokemon represent life and death so story elements go along those lines too. Hell they say in the Y Pokemons discription EVERYTHING dies if it dies. Also Cubone's description still says it wears its dead mothers skull.
Also (big spoiler)
They actually show and fully acknowledged the war where millions of humans and Pokemon die
Prinz Eugn
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Well, shit, looks like I might have to play Pokemon again. Especially since Halo 4 keeps dying over and over and whatnot and Halo 3 whenever I play it is a terrible online experience.
and that marks the end of the Halo 4 era.
RIP in... something.
Syphon Filter
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