Diablohead
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If the thruster pack did not go third person when used and allows you to keep shooing you would have that idea working, but of course the thruster pack in MP is terrible and not very good anyway.
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The Real Napsta
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lol what?
gAg CruSh3r
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It's a lot better then active camo and Jet pack that break the game. I feel like thruster pack promotes movement in the game instead of camping.
RIP IN PEACE HALOCHARTS
I posted this a few weeks ago. They stopped keeping stats for players but they still do population. Look at the bottom of the picture.
It's the best AA in the game.
Diablohead
Member
Jet pack is best
Thruster is the least game breaking perk but the others all seem to work a lot better (for me)
Thruster is the least game breaking perk but the others all seem to work a lot better (for me)
Promethean Vision is absolutely terrible, as well. Easily as annoying as fighting a jetpack or camo user.
Gabotron ES
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I expect some new goodies added to Megalo (YAY!) but not sure about Forge, probably not.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Need to collectively stop calling it PV and start calling it wall hacks.
squidhands
Member
343 = Hierarchs
me = Arbiter after Halo 2
my mark of shame will be the Halo 4 game that I still own. :-(
me = Arbiter after Halo 2
my mark of shame will be the Halo 4 game that I still own. :-(
gAg CruSh3r
Member
If your a good player you can easily kill a PV (Wall hacker) player. PV is not a big issue to me but it can use a good nerf to it.
I agree. Sincerely hope these three are removed as starting perks one day... Not going to happen but I can dream. Wouldn't mind them so much if they were powerups on the map or something.
HigherLevel
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Watching the Destiny HD video from E3 and they really need Luke Smith playing just for the commentary.
It's not about direct kill/be killed power, it's omniscience at the press of a button. It's the power to stop a flag sneak with a single ping. It's the removal of any kind of actual awareness, team communication requirements, or predictive capability because you can see enemy movement and spawning with almost literally zero effort. The other awful abilities break a lot of the moment-to-moment action verb scenarios that Halo has. But at its core, I think PV is the ability that I find to be the most out of line with what Halo is because of how completely it destroys so many meta-level skills. At the very least, it's tied with camo for that spot as far as I'm concerned.
Lol very fitting.
I'm shocked how many people on the net defend this crap with the perks and say stuff like ' just let Halo 4 go, wait for 5' this what we see is a small indication which direction they also will go with Halo 5 if we don't complain early enough :/
But abilities/perks/mods/crap/codstuff behind paywalls is just dosgusting
But you have a big waypoint above your head when you have the flag.
I mean during the base assault to get the flag, not when you're returning to your base with flag in hand. Sorry if that wasn't totally clear before.
I don't know that I could count the number of times I've tried to sneak into a Solace or Adrift base to get the flag only to see a radar ping and hear that PV audio cue, realizing that my time has been completely wasted because somebody pressed a button and got X-ray vision.
But you can counter it with that armor mod that makes it so they cant see you
I've run into this kind of thing several times as well, even in just slayer matches, trying to sneak around and flank a sniper or rocket guy and you almost get into place when you hear that damn ping. Typically I don't have much trouble with PV users, but when you hear that ping you just go into screw it mode and just rush in and hope to get lucky as opposed to feeling like a plan came together.
I don't even hate AAs, I do think they still need refinement and editing. I wouldn't be sad if they just drop them though either.
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kittens
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I know this has been said a million times before, but having two Halo threads feels pretty pointless. The distinction between this thread and the Halo 4 OT is thin to the point of being meaningless.
User 73706
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Not only that, but the HaloGAF OT is pretty much dead. All the off-topic conversation's been sticking to blurbs in here or it's moved to HGS.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
What the fuck. Ryan from Giant Bomb passed away? Man, now this day just sucks.
squidhands
Member
Gameplay-changing behavior to counteract gameplay-changing behavior is terrible in both concept and execution. An argument could be made that Bungie made Reach out of boredom of the same relative gameplay mechanics and wanted to twist the formula to shake things up. 343 chose the wrong ball to pick up and run with, and they now have more to prove to a large swath of the fanbase than before they released Halo 4. Best of luck to them.
Well that's the specific Halo 4 thread, and this is the general Halo thread. I think eventually, most discussion will move here, as opposed to the other thread.
But I also think the split just stopped it all in its tracks. Most just don't post anymore. I'm glad the one in off topic community has died off, was pointless anyway for a gaming community to be there.
Gabotron ES
Member
Can someone post the XML file to a Infinity Slayer variant? I'd really appreciate it.
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kittens
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You can slap a bandaid on a lot of the massive problems with the game, but that doesn't suddenly mean that they aren't still problems.
xxjuicesxx
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Plus you only get to put on one band-aid but the gameplay gives you ten cuts from the last Halo.
Diablohead
Member
All that does is make the outline blue instead of red, you can still be seen if you know what to look for I am sure, unless you only appear when on the motion tracker with that perk.
squidhands
Member
It needs amputation and cauterization. Bandaids wouldn't help.
That will be interesting, I doubt he'll be totally honest with what he says though.
NO.
Wow. My fucking heart dropped. Holy shit.
Don't know what to say... Goddamnit.
I might actually cry.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I was gonna say the exact same thing, lol.
Yeah, there's no way he'll say as much as we'd all like him to, but hopefully it will be insightful nonetheless.
It would be nice to see what he really thinks, but obviously we won't get that entirely. Expecting to see some generic statement about how 343i did a great job.
I would think that it is obvious what Bungie thinks of Halo 4 though. I mean, if they considered Halo Wars to be the whoring out of their franchise, imagine what they think of the mess that is Halo 4, the game that literally went off on a complete tangent from how Bungie would have done it.
to be completely honest, I really hope they tear halo 4 a new one. show 343 what the creators of halo think of the newest iteration.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
You have to remember, 4 is an iteration of Reach. A Bungie game. They can't "tear Halo 4 a new one" without slightly tearing themselves a new one. If Bungie had not introduced armor abilities, etc, we all might be talking about a vastly different Halo 4.
Both companies need to look at why the change was needed, and what aspects work and do not. 343 needs to reel in Halo 5 and make it more like classic Halo.
Barrow Roll
Member
You're crazy, the Thurster Pack is amazing, it's just not overpowered. It's even better now that universal movement speed has been bumped up to 110%.
While true, 343 took it to the next level (flinch, random ordnance, BS armor abilities [the ones in Reach were fairly balanced, save armor lock], and a space magicy campaign.
You'd have to be very naive to think that 343 would completely 180 their philosophies. MS did it however, so anything is possible.
I would like to think that, but I know better.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Who knows, shit. So many mixed signals from 343 over the past few months. I really have no clue what to expect from them anymore. But damn, their vision for Halo 4 was a disaster, and they need to do a total reverse course. I want to be convinced to buy Halo 5. It sucks to have so little faith in the franchise.
Hypertrooper
Member
Yes. It is the greatest addition to the franchise, but I still would prefer the thruster pack of the previous build. Not sure about the changing perspective, I could live with both I guess.
Diablohead
Member
It's ok 343i will just do shit loads of focus testing, we all know that works...
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Focus testing with Ghal, Juices, and Kyle. Halo is saved.
HiredN00bs
Member
I hope he critiques the multiplayer from a design perspective.
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