This still confuses me.
If I create something at work everbody loves and has fun with AND stays true to the original... I would never scrap it
Nah, man. Too traditional.This still confuses me.
If I create something at work everbody loves and has fun with AND stays true to the original... I would never scrap it
Agreed, people still blame Reach on Sage but its not just him who controls everything, its a team of people.
"We had people who we hired who hated Halo because of 'X,'" says O'Connor. "But what that really meant was, 'I feel like this game could be awesome because of 'Y input' that I'm going to bring into it. I want to prove it, and I'm passionate about proving it.' So we ended up with a bunch of people who were genuinely passionate about the product. That is a huge advantage, and that helped in hiring and forming our team."
and then you have communities like Team Beyond that Slrp hardcore and the antithesis (excluding a few people) on Halogaf who aren't afraid to tell 343 exactly how it is.
lol you're just mad you got perma'd from there
And then have all the reviews saying it's just copy paste of another Halo game resulting in a bad score, bad publicity and risk not pulling in new players.
They wanted that CoD crowd so they changed things to try and appeal to them.
They failed terribly.
Isn't that how all forums work?You dont conform to their particular rules then you get removed.
Isn't that how all forums work?
and then you have communities like Team Beyond that Slrp hardcore and the antithesis (excluding a few people) on Halogaf who aren't afraid to tell 343 exactly how it is.
Halo 4 was a Failure.
And fire all these people. then Fire HR that hired them, then Demote Frankie to Janitor for letting this Happen
Please elaborate what your problem is with Ghost and his settingsI called people out for kissing Ghost's ass. the Mods there were still butt hurt about the THC shit, and coming from THC there was a Bias.
I'm not mad. the fact that they have to stifle someone with a Ban is funny really. Its a community built on sucking up to the Devs and kissing Ass. You dont conform to their particular rules then you get removed.
Please elaborate what your problem is with Ghost and his settings
EDit : wtf beyond community slurping 343 ? Lol what They have way vigger trolls there than here
Huuuuh? He made a poll about starting weapons listened to everyone he was testing with.It's one person that doesnt listen to the community as a whole, who bases the settings on Nostalgia, and thinks so highly of himself.
"CoD-ification" is only one area where Halo multiplayer failed under 343, and has been covered comprehensively over the past few months. A lot of Halo 4 was also an evolution of what was implemented in Reach. Namely, one of the areas I liked them attempting to evolve was the sense of persistence. Persistent elements in multiplayer shooters has been one of the recent trends to keep longterm player numbers, with ultimately mixed results. Halo 3 had limited customization. Reach had a greater amount that extended to limited metagame alteration with loadouts. Halo 4 decided to push that even further by adding in the CoD-like elements many have grievances with.Developers don't get that adding cod features wont make those players go to their game. if a player wants cod that is what they are going to get. many developers these days have this issue.
Huuuuh? He made a poll about starting weapons With an even split between having single BR and multiple loadouts but still went with Single BR
listened to everyone he was testing with. most of whom aren't randoms in the competitive community
Tries new weapons on the maps all the time that are out of the norm... yet we rarely see this in Throwdown
He bases the settings on balance IMO
Edit: only no sprint comes to my mind that many people ask for and he doesn't seem to go for it there was a poll and like 89% of people voted for removal of sprint
And then have all the reviews saying it's just copy paste of another Halo game resulting in a bad score, bad publicity and risk not pulling in new players.
Does this happen to CoD?
Halo isn't CoD.
Yes it is.
Yes it is.
But ultimately, it's simpler to pick the diamonds off the turd and run than it is to clean off the diamond coated in shit. 343 only needed to renege on the elements they were adamant on keeping to create a passable Halo game (despite issues in areas they couldn't feasibly fix -- campaign, Spartan Ops, sound, UI). They took a half-step solution, ignored a ton of other issues and the population nosedived for it.Halo 4 actually has one of the best core mechanics, dare I say better than 3 or Reach. The movement, aiming and the guns are all very responsive and are clear. The grenades are still viable yet not mini nukes. The jump height is perfect IMO and doesn't feel floaty at all.
Reach was like a diamond coated turd, whereas Halo 4 is a diamond coated with a turd.
Halo 4 actually has one of the best core mechanics, dare I say better than 3 or Reach. The movement, aiming and the guns are all very responsive and are clear. The grenades are still viable yet not mini nukes. The jump height is perfect IMO and doesn't feel floaty at all.
Reach was like a diamond coated turd, whereas Halo 4 is a diamond coated with a turd.
If Halo 4 was Black Ops 2 it would have more people playing it.
Think about it.
Halo 4 actually has one of the best core mechanics, dare I say better than 3 or Reach. The movement, aiming and the guns are all very responsive and are clear. The grenades are still viable yet not mini nukes. The jump height is perfect IMO and doesn't feel floaty at all.
Reach was like a diamond coated turd, whereas Halo 4 is a diamond coated with a turd.
I think the DMR, with some adjustments, could act as a decent on-map stopgap between the BR and Sniper. But there's much to be said for sandbox clutter, of which Halo 4 has way too much.Halo 4 with all the shit removed is really nice. They also need to scrap the DMR so it can stop ruining bigger maps.
I think the DMR, with some adjustments, could act as a decent on-map stopgap between the BR and Sniper. But there's much to be said for sandbox clutter, of which Halo 4 has way too much.
Halo 4 with all the shit removed is really nice. They also need to scrap the DMR so it can stop ruining bigger maps.
EDIT: Also making games more casual is clearly the way to go!
That's a lot of stuff to remove. Lets not beat around the bush and admit it's not a good halo game.
Bold, and also he refused to test NS even after Quinn offered up NS slayer gametypes
But ultimately, it's simpler to pick the diamonds off the turd and run than it is to clean off the diamond coated in shit. 343 only needed to renege on the elements they were adamant on keeping to create a passable Halo game (despite issues in areas they couldn't feasibly fix -- campaign, Spartan Ops, sound, UI). They took a half-step solution, ignored a ton of other issues and the population nosedived for it.
I've no faith that 343 can wipe the crap away for Halo 5, but here's hoping.
I want to be swimming in Mountain Dew and laying on my giant Doritos bag floaty.So they had traditional Halo and scrapped it.
I bet they sat there thinking "People are just going to say we carbon copied Bungies shit so lets change it up! How about we do the whole CoD perks thing? That could be cool?"
Then they all high 5'd each other and jumped into the olympic sized doritos swimming pool.
Precisely my point. 343 has indicated a distinct lack of interest in bringing the core of Halo to the forefront at the expense of their CoD-ified Halo. Sure, it's easier to turn those features on with a little work in custom games (another area where Reach crushes 4, but that's another discussion) than it is juice the core of Reach into being more recognizably Halo, but that's not where 343's ambition lies.Not necessarily true.
It's easy to remove all the crap in Halo 4... Set loadouts with a gametype and have no ordnance. You still have flinch and stuff, but on a 4v4 that isn't much of a big deal.
Reach however, was a lot more difficult.
Another thing... I don't know if 343 is stopping this CoDified direction. It seemed as they were with the recent updates, but with the Champions DLC introducing MORE perks... I don't know what to say.
Quite a bit of hypocrisy in the new Sony memory threads. I don't really care either way, but from day one, XbOne was getting shit for only having 5 gb DDR3 for games and 32 mb ESRAM while everyone was saying PS4 would blow it away with 7gb of GDDR5. Now Sony only will potentially give 4.5 gb of RAM for games at the start with the potential for 512mb or 1 gb more and it becomes, who cares, were coming from a 256/512 mb generation, don't be greedy, games won't need more than 4 gb blah blah.
To those who understand it better than me, how will this impact ports? I understand PS4 still has a slightly better GPU and the memory is still faster but will this equalize ports/multiplatforms a bit?
Didn't Halo 3 have the whole "gamefuel" thing going on?
Didn't Halo 3 have the whole "gamefuel" thing going on?
Yeah, it started the entire thing and they didn't have to resort to dew 2xp and had a MUCH better advertisement campaign than "An Ancient Evil Awakens" or a random light up sign of the Didact floating around.
They did a lot of it BUT you could not go anywhere without seeing Halo 3 and it was immensely successful.Yes, but it had no interaction with the game itself.
Halo 3 also had a Burger King tie-in. I honestly think they went over the top with Halo 3's cross-promotion.
Yeah I was expecting A LOT more Didact stuff a lot of people still really don't know why the fuck the Didact was evil because 343 thought it was a good idea to hide the terminals away on waypoint and hide key info in books as well rather than have a good self contained story.:lol
I forgot about that. 343 spent so much time hyping up the Didact when he barely got any screentime.
Quite a bit of hypocrisy in the new Sony memory threads. I don't really care either way, but from day one, XbOne was getting shit for only having 5 gb DDR3 for games and 32 mb ESRAM while everyone was saying PS4 would blow it away with 7gb of GDDR5. Now Sony only will potentially give 4.5 gb of RAM for games at the start with the potential for 512mb or 1 gb more and it becomes, who cares, were coming from a 256/512 mb generation, don't be greedy, games won't need more than 4 gb blah blah.
To those who understand it better than me, how will this impact ports? I understand PS4 still has a slightly better GPU and the memory is still faster but will this equalize ports/multiplatforms a bit?
Bold, and also he refused to test NS even after Quinn offered up NS slayer gametypes
slrp slrp
Quite a bit of hypocrisy in the new Sony memory threads. I don't really care either way, but from day one, XbOne was getting shit for only having 5 gb DDR3 for games and 32 mb ESRAM while everyone was saying PS4 would blow it away with 7gb of GDDR5. Now Sony only will potentially give 4.5 gb of RAM for games at the start with the potential for 512mb or 1 gb more and it becomes, who cares, were coming from a 256/512 mb generation, don't be greedy, games won't need more than 4 gb blah blah.
To those who understand it better than me, how will this impact ports? I understand PS4 still has a slightly better GPU and the memory is still faster but will this equalize ports/multiplatforms a bit?
Well in first line he tests these settings with the people who compete for money on them.
Multiple loadout would just be super stupid in Throwdown, thank god he decided for Single BR, like every pro player pushed him to do.
The new weapons? Huh Sword, Scattershot, Needler, Concussion Rifle, Boltshots etc on different maps, he tried the SAW
Yes the sprint thing is weird. Many people showed him the maps he was concerned about without sprint, with higher movement speed, he said he thought it was too floaty.
It will affect things, but not terribly so. The PS4 GPU is about 50% more powerful so even with the relatively low RAM allocation it'll have the edge. This says nothing for potential reductions in the footprint of the PS4's OS -- Sony has been known to decrease the OS allocation as they get more experience with the hardware. The entire design philosophy of the Xbox One is to have the RAM allocation more or less permanent as time goes on. So the PS4 has the advantage with the potential to widen the gap considerably. This will probably mostly apply to exclusive games, however. The current generation has shown that visual parity is preferred as much as possible for multiplats between the HD Twins, regardless of slight advantages here and there.Quite a bit of hypocrisy in the new Sony memory threads. I don't really care either way, but from day one, XbOne was getting shit for only having 5 gb DDR3 for games and 32 mb ESRAM while everyone was saying PS4 would blow it away with 7gb of GDDR5. Now Sony only will potentially give 4.5 gb of RAM for games at the start with the potential for 512mb or 1 gb more and it becomes, who cares, were coming from a 256/512 mb generation, don't be greedy, games won't need more than 4 gb blah blah.
To those who understand it better than me, how will this impact ports? I understand PS4 still has a slightly better GPU and the memory is still faster but will this equalize ports/multiplatforms a bit?