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Halo |OT19| 793 Posts, And None Worth Reading
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ElRenoRaven
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You're right. Put the Assault Rifle back in and give us the proper start that Halo 2 should have had.I really do wish we could see the AR in Halo 2 though.Seems so weird that it just upped and disappeared.
Barrow Roll
Member
Best post in this thread.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Oh god. Suddenly Halo 2 Anniversary doesn't sound so great.
I really hope they make that change. Again like I mentioned earlier, they are adding a "ALL SORTS OF SHIT" to it. I hope that's one of those things.
Poker Face
Member
Fulgore was the coolest thing ever when I was 5. I'll be more hyped for him when we see some gameplay, right now I'm ready for spinal
AR starts were no better in later games.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Yes they were. They had the Assault Rifle. ;p
Caayn
Member
The achievement "Extra credit" is glitched if you've played SA on W8/WP8.
With the W8/WP8 version you can trigger it by doing a monthly challenge but the Xbox One version refuses to unlock the achievement.
Short version: if you play the game on more than one platform you're screwed, if you only play on only one platform you're safe and have nothing to worry.
At least you don't have to dual wield ARs.
Sounds like you care more about the skin of the weapon rather than its effectiveness.
Although in Halo 3 people relied more on AR rush and melee, which can die in a fire.
NobleGundam
Banned
CJ from 343 "Motion Capture Suprvisor" shared his work with me via FB.
Pretty cool reel
He's been working in the industry for 13 years.
They certainly assembled people with awesome talent to work with Halo.
Pretty cool reel
He's been working in the industry for 13 years.
They certainly assembled people with awesome talent to work with Halo.
The AR start's haven't exactly been great in multiplayer why not BR starts instead?
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I remember being excited for the AR coming back in Halo 3. Then I played Halo 3.
At least in the case of a map like Lockout having BR starts essentially breaks a core dynamic of how the map is supposed to play (control the BR on one tower, sniper on the other.)
Wow looks great, thanks for posting that link.
Caayn
Member
I vote for needle rifle starts.
For cases were it affects that severely AR starts wouldn't be that bad as long as the AR isn't bad.
I like you Caayn
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Here's a thought for H2A: How about letting players choose between the BR or Carbine as their spawn weapon? I don't remember the shots to kill or kill time for the Carbine, but if they're making adjustments then they could make it a useful counterpart to the BR.
Halo 2: CE would be the best starting point for H2A.
AR couldn't snipe the Banshee like the H2 SMG ;]
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Whats the music he uses?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Oh please never return things like no BR starts and spawn killing for an entire match. I'm not against AR starts per se but always have precision weapon starts on competitive small maps with those sorts of sight lines.
Also has the Vertex free design book been posted before? Artists like Sparth collaborated to make a book about how to create game art. It is damned good to learn from or just very interesting insights to flick through.
http://kotaku.com/game-artists-will-show-you-how-to-be-a-game-artist-1511081466
True, I don't think Marty's music will ever be touched it is Halo. But I did enjoy H4 music too
Blue Ninja
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So, when's Stinkles giving us our surprise Halo 2 Anniversary Xbox Ones?
Ragnarok Flames
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for lockout, IT BREAKS THE MAP FLOW. thats why it doesnt happen
bobs...onGaf
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=760013&highlight=
Read that thread and have fun.
Or, if you're lazy.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98866447#post98866447
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98871313#post98871313
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98909600#post98909600
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98913587#post98913587
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98912045#post98912045
Respawn specifically denied this, and holy fuck, is this how Microsoft caught CBOAT? Damn if so.
Pretty damn ingenious and evil for Microsoft to send different people false information, to see who the leaker is.
Thanks!
VivaciousJazzy
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3 buns represent Tashi ceiling. Not just top.
I don't mind BR starts at all, but having them default would be horrible. AR + pistol ala CE would be great.
While I don't think the pistol should return exactly as it was, they really need to give that and the plasma pistol (Remember being able to kill a grunt in one fully charged plasma pistol shot?) some usefulness, but especially the magnum.
In halo 3, first thing I get rid of is the magnum, because I know it's rarely going to do me any good. The only instance I'm ever able to use it effectively is if I have a plasma pistol to takedown the shields first as a dual wield, the other guy is really bad, or he just has a pistol himself.
Guns should be useful. Otherwise, why are they there?
While I don't think the pistol should return exactly as it was, they really need to give that and the plasma pistol (Remember being able to kill a grunt in one fully charged plasma pistol shot?) some usefulness, but especially the magnum.
In halo 3, first thing I get rid of is the magnum, because I know it's rarely going to do me any good. The only instance I'm ever able to use it effectively is if I have a plasma pistol to takedown the shields first as a dual wield, the other guy is really bad, or he just has a pistol himself.
Guns should be useful. Otherwise, why are they there?
NobleGundam
Banned
He says, Stephen Walking: Winter
BR starts break a core dynamic? Setups are just as important with BR starts - there were two classic setups on Lockout TS with BR starts, one was to have 3 people at Snipe tower and one at top blue, the other was to have a guy at window, a guy on Bridge/BR2, a guy roaming open ramp/BR1, and a guy roaming BR3 (preferably with sniper). SMG starts on Lockout (and every map, really) were horribly broken, it just turned into the team with control putting two guys at snipe tower and two at BR tower, to force the other team to spawn at blue over and over, where they have no options or weapons. Against two good teams, there was no "dynamic" to be had with SMG starts.
I hope not, I want as few COD elements in the game as possible. They were pretty much equivalent weapons anyway, the Carbine was a 7 shot kill, which was just a fraction of a second faster than a 4 shot from the BR - 4 shots from the BR took less time than 8 Carbine shots, but more time than 7.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Apologize.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you saying the spiker is not useful but should still be there? That the spiker is useful and should not be there? What?
Not sure how that applies to my post.
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kittens
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I'm saying the spiker is useful and shouldn't be there. Halo 5: Spiker, Focus Rifle, Auto-Sentry starts.
ElRenoRaven
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I actually liked it in Halo 3. Hell I did decent with it. I've always done decent with it. Even in the Halo 1 days I was pretty good with it. Course I'm no pro who would strip the game down to one weapon if I could. Not saying you are mind you.
See already more balanced. lol
BR tower is an example of a power position. The sniper tower is a lesser power position, but it has the snipe spawn on it.
Precision weapon starts is the only way I can have fun playing a match in Halo. AR starts were absolutley brutal in every game they were in to different degrees.
CE doesn't count because you could switch to your pistol (and the AR was more badass)
Halo 2's SMG's left you completley shitty on spawn desperatley trying to get a dual or a BR/Carbine, or a power weapon.
Halo 3 and Reach left you shitty on spawn having to resort to AR meleeing people. It was boring and frustrating
Halo 4's AR is powerful as hell, but the gameplay for it is so ZZZZzzzZZZz there is nothing interesting about AR firefights.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
Apologize.
Agreed. The Spiker was redundant as hell, but in Halo 3 at least, it was cool as hell to use.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Agreed. We can argue about the efficacy of the AR all day, but BR starts as default will always be better.
A useful counterpart would be nice like the post turbo carbine, make it something worth using instead of just there.
The spiker was great fun to use it should come back in halo five (I can't be the only one who read that in a Mr Torgue voice)
Apologize.
samurai1226
Member
Sorry, that's kind of a problem sometimes when english is not your mothers tongue
Best thing about H2A would definitely be the maps. Zanzibar, Burial Mounds, Coagulation, Headlong, Turf, Gemini, Midship, Ivory Tower,... Damn!
But i really hope if any of this is real, we also get player customization for spartans and elites, besides a some kind of cooperative firefight-like gamemode. and forge, what would be halo without forge!?
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
If 343 will be at RTX, me and Speedy are planning out shitty questions to ask during the Q&A.
EDIT: Just realized it's still about 6 months away looolllll. The Hype Train is in the station a bit early.
EDIT: Just realized it's still about 6 months away looolllll. The Hype Train is in the station a bit early.
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kittens
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B======D
Barrow Roll
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Spiker is a unique weapon that should get some sort of added functionality instead of just being an alternate SMG/AR. Should stick people to walls like the Penetrator in F.E.A.R. or something.
Apologize.
But if they can't do anything interesting with it then give it the axe.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Beatdown damage was good but not Brute Shot levels.
Higher melee damage.
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