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[Karl2177]

Hey, I wont be on xbox much today, may not be around until fairly late my time. Not sure what time though. Ill send you a pm if that changes!

I probably won't be home until late my time. Does the secondapps site have a pm box? If it does, I'll open a new tab to that when I leave.

Karl im not a big fan of some of your weapon chart. 5-6 shot kills, nerfed no scoping, I sort of understand your trying to seperate weapons into roles based on distance but I feel for Halo thats the wrong approach, fewer yet more versatile weapons leads to better gameplay in my opinion.

I'm open to all criticism on it. I understand that for some people, they want a BR that can handle all situations. Some people want distinct weapon roles. It would be tough as a sandbox designer to try and fit to both crowds, so I've been trying to find a line where it could cater to both groups. Thanks for commenting on it as well!

 

[Overdoziz]

I don't understand why sprint is in but not the Bubble Shield.

I don't understand why the Bubble Shield is out but not Sprint.

because every spartan should be able to run...

Why?

 

[FyreWulff]

Aw crap, too much stuff happened last night. Too late to do any runs before Bungie.net rolls back today. Looks like I'm spending the rest of Reach's online run with the Marathon nameplate.

 

[Rand0m TAG]

Why don't people vote for multi flag??? Fuckers

 

[Rand0m TAG]

What if different weapons had different melee strengths and speeds and had different weapon switch times?

 

[kylej]

Watching some random youtube clip of a Construct MLG game was what got me into watching MLG (not that I'm at kylej Inheritor status or anything).

Just because I watched 24 hours of MLG Halo in a single weekend, doesn't mean I'm not morbidly obese.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

I thought the Bubble Shield, in limited use in Halo 3 BTB objective, was rather fun.

Limited use. BTB. Mayhem. Fun.

Chaining Bubbles on Boardwalk on Reach and walking the Flag out of harm's way through the entire level was anti-fun.

Can't understand why they can't just go back to the fun part again.

Yeah, I really enjoyed the Bubble Shield in Halo 3.. I'm sad to see that it will not be returning, it was actually one of the things I really wanted. Ah well. =/

 

[stephen08]

What if different weapons had different melee strengths and speeds and had different weapon switch times?

In Halo 3 the Brute weapons did more damage with a melee than the human or Covenant ones.

 

[Rand0m TAG]

In Halo 3 the Brute weapons did more damage with a melee than the human or Covenant ones.

I meant like a pistol would require lets say 4 beats to kill but you can swing fast. A rocket would take 2 but is a lot slower

 

[stephen08]

I meant like a pistol would require lets say 4 beats to kill but you can swing fast. A rocket would take 2 but is a lot slower

Ah got you, so different melee damage to a significant degree.

 

[Striker]

In Halo 3 the Brute weapons did more damage with a melee than the human or Covenant ones.

H3's melee was two hits = death.

H2's melee had some changes in the weapons (Rockets, Brute Shot were much different) and with how you hit the enemy (head, body, velocity of the melee). The basic melee in the game was three hits, but it could be altered by those circumstances. That's how melee should have stayed.

 

[Fuchsdh]

H3's melee was two hits = death.

H2's melee had some changes in the weapons (Rockets, Brute Shot were much different) and with how you hit the enemy (head, body, velocity of the melee). The basic melee in the game was three hits, but it could be altered by those circumstances. That's how melee should have stayed.

Yeah, that's why I was confused. The H3 weapon sandbox is so broad that I never really could pick up a gun in know exactly how effective it would be in the circumstances (besides the obvious "Sniper Rifle or SMG" type choices.)

I guess the DMR being back precludes the Carbine, likely, as the Covenant are probably taking on a more limited role, but if they scale back their capabilities to the H1 sandbox that's not a bad idea.

On parents playing video games: my dad really likes watching my brother and I play whenever we come over. He was upset when we let him play games like Star Wars: Battlefront that he couldn't just fly around and explore, however; "people keep shooting at me!" he'd complain.

I'd actually really love a "pacifist" mode to the Halo games, where you can just explore the areas without worrying about enemies.

 

[Rand0m TAG]

Yeah, that's why I was confused. The H3 weapon sandbox is so broad that I never really could pick up a gun in know exactly how effective it would be in the circumstances (besides the obvious "Sniper Rifle or SMG" type choices.)

I guess the DMR being back precludes the Carbine, likely, as the Covenant are probably taking on a more limited role, but if they scale back their capabilities to the H1 sandbox that's not a bad idea.

On parents playing video games: my dad really likes watching my brother and I play whenever we come over. He was upset when we let him play games like Star Wars: Battlefront that he couldn't just fly around and explore, however; "people keep shooting at me!" he'd complain.

I'd actually really love a "pacifist" mode to the Halo games, where you can just explore the areas without worrying about enemies.

Easy mode is pretty much a joke. Closest thing to pacifist

 

[Gazzawa]

My dad tried playing Halo 2. Keep in mind he's thirty years my senior. Kept looking to the floor or the sky and nading himself. He laughed and has never tried playing it again.

C'mon I wasn't that bad.....
(i lold)
Cant wait for more rocket hog races. saving grace of this game.

 

[kylej]

The Covenant and Flood shouldn't even be in the game. There's presumably a whole universe out there for Master Chief to experience. The Chief randomly landing on a planet with more walking popcorn pieces and zany talking Grunts would be sooooooooooooo lame.

 

[The Librarian]

Easy mode is pretty much a joke. Closest thing to pacifist

Easy mode is really easy and is definitely a difficulty without having to worry too much about enemies. Easy is so easy you can charge to the Covenant side of the bridge in "Oni Alpha Site" and take them all out.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Easy mode is really easy and is definitely a difficulty without having to worry too much about enemies. Easy is so easy you can charge to the Covenant side of the bridge in "Oni Alpha Site" and take them all out.

You can do that on any difficulty, especially if you've got help. I'm sure more seasoned Halo players could do it Legendary, I've only ever attempted it solo Heroic. It's one of my favorite Halo encounters because we are rarely put into interesting defense scenarios.

 

[Hydranockz]

C'mon I wasn't that bad.....
(i lold)
Cant wait for more rocket hog races. saving grace of this game.

Rocket Hog race is so much fun with a good team. Not sure if I prefer the mongoose variant though.

 

[TheOddOne]

"...Firefight"

THANK YOU BASED GOD.

... also I wished you guys talked about Journey

 

[Gazzawa]

Rocket Hog race is so much fun with a good team. Not sure if I prefer the mongoose variant though.

The "flippiness" is ott in the hogs. Last night was some Ciruque Du Soleil freaknizzle. We exploited that and sent so many scrubs to their water grave.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

"...Firefight"

THANK YOU BASED GOD.

... also I wished you guys talked about Journey

Maybe, you should take a journey to the journey thread.

Lololololol

Spoiler

Kidding, Journey seems like an incredible game (I don't have a PS3), it's also the the best selling game the PSN, huzzah!

 

[TheOddOne]

Maybe, you should take a journey to the journey thread.

Lololololol

Spoiler

Kidding, Journey seems like an incredible game (I don't have a PS3), it's also the the best selling game the PSN, huzzah!

Always knew you were a xbot.

Spoiler

xbot

 

[Stinkles]

The "flippiness" is ott in the hogs. Last night was some Ciruque Du Soleil freaknizzle. We exploited that and sent so many scrubs to their water grave.

Sing to melody of Chris Isaak's Two Hearts

Love's a heavy hog
Give it to me don't flip it dog
Needs a heavy weight
Too heavy for one shot
to flip out your hog
flip out your hog again
two tons
Two tons just to hold it doooooooown
dooooown
Dooooooown
Hold that liiiiiiiiiiine

 

[Gazzawa]

Sing to melody of Chris Isaak's Two Hearts

Love's a heavy hog
Give it to me don't flip it dog
Needs a heavy weight
Too heavy for one shot
to flip out your hog
flip out your hog again
two tons
Two tons just to hold it doooooooown
dooooown
Dooooooown
Hold that liiiiiiiiiiine

...Got any Kanye West?

 

[Kuroyume]

Speaking of Wathogs I have a favor to ask... Other than asking for them to have weak firepower I would like if 343 also cut down on the time it takes to leave a vehicle. I think it was increased from H2 to 3 and Reach because in H2 I would always drive my teamates off a cliff and dump the vehicle before I went over myself. I could do it sometimes in 3 on Rat's Nest but more often than not I would also end up killing myself. I want that to be cut down and I want to see more of the BTB maps have more dangerous cliffs and holes you have to drive by.

 

[FyreWulff]

Halo 4 hog should have jetpacks bolted to the sides of the vehicle. Landmaster that shit.

Speaking of Wathogs I have a favor to ask... Other than asking for them to have weak firepower I would like if 343 also cut down on the time it takes to leave a vehicle. I think it was increased from H2 to 3 and Reach because in H2 I would always drive my teamates off a cliff and dump the vehicle before I went over myself. I could do it sometimes in 3 on Rat's Nest but more often than not I would also end up killing myself. I want that to be cut down and I want to see more of the BTB maps have more dangerous cliffs and holes you have to drive by.

You.. what?

 

[Stinkles]

...Got any Kanye West?

[Frankie O feat. Overdoz1z]

He take my Warthog when I'm in need
Yeah he's a BK, with vehicle greed
Oh he's a driver, drives like a clown
The joke's on me

[Chorus:]
(He takes my warthog)
Now I ain't sayin' he a bad driver (And drives at speed)
But he ain't messin' with no sick havok
(He takes my warthog)
Now I ain't sayin' he a bad driver (And drives at speed)
But he ain't messin' with no sick havok
Slow down Doz go head slow down (I gotta drive)
Slow down Doz go head slow down (I gotta drive)
Slow down Doz go head slow down (I gotta drive)
Slow down Doz flip out

[Verse 1:]




Someone set us up the bomb
Totin his firearm
He said to disarm the clock
I can tell by your smarm
Far as girls you got cock blocked
I can tell by your smarm and your yarn
but I'm looking for the hog
have you seen it?
Claude Ererra told me I drive like Senna
But he was just channelin bad kids
An I gotta take all they dot map files
OK get your dot map files but watch they bends
This might be an AMG Benz, they all got up on
We all went to Rocket Race I had to play
If you mess with mah hog then you better be skilled
You know why
Overdoz drive inside
I heard he got Tashi overkilled
When all the passengers out his hog done spilled
I don't care what none of you all say I still drive

[Chorus]

[Verse 2:]
15 years, 15 years
He got in your hog and drove for 15 kills
They count as assists that shiz for bad kidz miss
Now we know Devo's hog ability is bigger than his
You will see him in Big Team on a lazy Sunday
But he drivin like Miss Daisy parallel parkin a Humvee
He was supposed to drive you all directly to the flag for a victory
But he did a victory lap tho his flag hand was empty
He drivin round in circles doin laps with affrontery
But the other team just walkin to their base with yo flag G
Should of got that insured got GEICO for your money
If you aint no BK holla we want BR starts
Cos elitists think AR sound like ham farts
WE WANT BR STARTS yeah
Or DMRs to, they smart yeah
Cause when he drive yo ass he gone go off half cocked
15 years, 15 years
He drive clueless like Silverstone and grinds his gears


[Chorus]

[Verse 3:]
Now I ain't saying you're a bad driver you got special needs
You don't want your dude to crash but he got auto greed
You got out to cap and he took off like Diesel
The Vin kind I mean, but he just bad, not evil
But why you all sittin idle
You better grab that flag and sidle
He got that drivin look in his eyes
This week he crashing hogs, and it ain't a surprise
So stay away from his ride
I know his passenger seat looks like a prize
And he gonna keep honking and tryin
But you get in you dyin

Foot down Doz go drive now
Foot down Doz go drive now
Foot down Doz go drive now

 

[HigherLevel]

So this is what the man in charge of the future of Halo spends his time doing. lol

 

[Stinkles]

So this is what the man in charge of the future of Halo spends his time doing. lol

If you can't use the time
Don't spit the rhymes

 

[heckfu]

holy shit, that was...magnificent.

 

[TheOddOne]

That was straight ill. Son got mad lyrics.

 

[Hypertrooper]

[Frankie O feat. Overdoz1z]

He take my Warthog when I'm in need
Yeah he's a BK, with vehicle greed
Oh he's a driver, drives like a clown
The joke's on me

[Chorus:]
(He takes my warthog)
Now I ain't sayin' he a bad driver (And drives at speed)
But he ain't messin' with no sick havok
(He takes my warthog)
Now I ain't sayin' he a bad driver (And drives at speed)
But he ain't messin' with no sick havok
Slow down Doz go head slow down (I gotta drive)
Slow down Doz go head slow down (I gotta drive)
Slow down Doz go head slow down (I gotta drive)
Slow down Doz flip out

[Verse 1:]




Someone set us up the bomb
Totin his firearm
He said to disarm the clock
I can tell by your smarm
Far as girls you got cock blocked
I can tell by your smarm and your yarn
but I'm looking for the hog
have you seen it?
Claude Ererra told me I drive like Senna
But he was just channelin bad kids
An I gotta take all they dot map files
OK get your dot map files but watch they bends
This might be an AMG Benz, they all got up on
We all went to Rocket Race I had to play
If you mess with mah hog then you better be skilled
You know why
Overdoz drive inside
I heard he got Tashi overkilled
When all the passengers out his hog done spilled
I don't care what none of you all say I still drive

[Chorus]

[Verse 2:]
15 years, 15 years
He got in your hog and drove for 15 kills
They count as assists that shiz for bad kidz miss
Now we know Devo's hog ability is bigger than his
You will see him in Big Team on a lazy Sunday
But he drivin like Miss Daisy parallel parkin a Humvee
He was supposed to drive you all directly to the flag for a victory
But he did a victory lap tho his flag hand was empty
He drivin round in circles doin laps with affrontery
But the other team just walkin to their base with yo flag G
Should of got that insured got GEICO for your money
If you aint no BK holla we want BR starts
Cos elitists think AR sound like ham farts
WE WANT BR STARTS yeah
Or DMRs to, they smart yeah
Cause when he drive yo ass he gone go off half cocked
15 years, 15 years
He drive clueless like Silverstone and grinds his gears


[Chorus]

[Verse 3:]
Now I ain't saying you're a bad driver you got special needs
You don't want your dude to crash but he got auto greed
You got out to cap and he took off like Diesel
The Vin kind I mean, but he just bad, not evil
But why you all sittin idle
You better grab that flag and sidle
He got that drivin look in his eyes
This week he crashing hogs, and it ain't a surprise
So stay away from his ride
I know his passenger seat looks like a prize
And he gonna keep honking and tryin
But you get in you dyin

Foot down Doz go drive now
Foot down Doz go drive now
Foot down Doz go drive now

So Overdoziz will roll to GamesCom this year, right? Then I force you to rap!

 

[thezerofire]

holy damn. I want to hear it recorded

 

[Overdoziz]

Frankie likes ARs
He also can't drive cars

♫

 

[CyReN]

If you can't use the time
Don't spit the rhymes

 

[TheOddOne]

"But he drivin like Miss Daisy parallel parkin a Humvee"

bahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhaha

 

[lybertyboy]

What did I just walk into the middle of?

 

[Stinkles]

What did I just walk into the middle of?

Epic Rap Battle.

 

[lybertyboy]

Epic Rap Battle.

True story, I once officiated the worst rap battle of all time™.

I present to you The Fall of M.C. No-Flow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kZHgODDyeE

p.s. Don't ask about the mustache.

 

[Fracas]

Not a bad way to start my gaf browsing.

 

[FyreWulff]

And boom goes the Bungie.net stats

 

[Hypertrooper]

True story, I once officiated the worst rap battle of all time™.

I present to you The Fall of M.C. No-Flow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kZHgODDyeE

p.s. Don't ask about the mustache.

So what's the story about the mustache?

 

[TheOddOne]

True story, I once officiated the worst rap battle of all time™.

I present to you The Fall of M.C. No-Flow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kZHgODDyeE

Weak, that was so weak.

 

[CyReN]

So what's the story about the mustache?

and the chops.

 

[higherARC05]

Please Frankie, you ain't got nothing on Master Chief rhymes!

Best rap battle EVER!

Master Chief vs Leonidas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgVwv0ZuPhM

 

[Gabotron ES]

Holy shit at Frankie lol

Also, Bungie no longer hosts live halo data and I'll keep my 5 render minutes FOREVAR!

 

[Tunavi]

And boom goes the Bungie.net stats

 

[Spasm]

Oh shit, I forgot that was this weekend. Bye bye 39 render minutes.

Also, matchmaking is borked. Match found. Restarting Search. x1,000,000.

 

[Fracas]

A guy just told me he can't get into matchmaking, lobby fills up then restarts the search. Anyone else having that problem, or is his connection just messing up?

Ah ok, it is everywhere. Damn, I wanted to play some Halo today. I wonder is Halo 3 is working properly.

 

[Tashi]

Frank you got beef?! Bring da ruckus!