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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days
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Zeouterlimits
Member
Wow Hydra, that's.. an interesting perspective. Completely unfair.
Hydranockz
Member
They are reacting the same way they did with Reach. They are being bitten again.
Fool me once indeed.
I'm sorry that I didn't set my expectations to rockets with jetpacks, armor lock, slow move speed, bloom, camo snipers, crappy asynchronous networking, wraiths firing backwards, low jump height. Oh wait I did and it was shit. Why should I expect any different this time around?
Zeouterlimits
Member
Bullshit! I was super excited for Reach and very open to the evolution being a positive thing.
Or they've managed to make AI work on the MM network code.
Hopefully that, that would mean Spartan Ops won't need its own code and will be input-lag free, right?
Speaking of this, ODST-level of input lag is absolutely maximum acceptable for Spartan Ops, any more and it is unplayable like Reach Firefight.
To be fair, at least its not the same trolls I usually fall for.
HigherLevel
Member
Good point. I was trying to figure out a way that an auto turret would be balanced, especially in an objective game type but I couldn't think of anything.
edit: wait, wasn't there an auto turret equipment thing in Halo 3?
edit 2: I just looked it up and it's only in campaign.
biosnake20
Member
If any single player stuff leaks just put it in spoilers.
Campaign-only, when it it was friendly it barely worked; if you pissed off your allies, it would turn against and you work extremly well
EDIT also, see above what i wondered about the AI
Hydranockz
Member
What's changed?
bobs...onGaf
Member
I dont get it, people are reacting more cautiously this time because they didnt like Reach. I mean personally I was skeptical in the run up to Reach but most of the guys here weren't.
Hydranockz
Member
Ok, ok, I worded the expectations analogy badly. Terrible analogy really. My bad.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
This doesn't even make sense given the context of the conversation and the fact the game isn't even released yet.
Looking at that spoilered list of abilities and perks, it is honestly making me feel better about MP. At first I was of course very upset and concerned it would be Reach all over again, but they are adding in so much shit that it's not even going to feel like Reach.
I'm definitely ok with it not feeling like Reach. I hope it feels as little like Reach as possible.
And it's pretty clear that they are wanting you to establish an identity/role using all of these tools, which I think it great. Is it COD? Yup, pretty much. But it's not. We haven't had this level of player customization yet in a HALO game, so I'm feeling VERY open now to what we will be presented with. All of this shit looks terrible in writing, especially from the idiots who distributed the leaked info. Of course they're going to put a certain spin on the info that makes your stomach turn.
So yeah, unexpected rant a little bit. But I am very happy right now, and I am a person who hated the direction Reach took. And I absolutely cannot fucking wait for the Halo 4 sex we're going to be getting at E3.
I'm definitely ok with it not feeling like Reach. I hope it feels as little like Reach as possible.
And it's pretty clear that they are wanting you to establish an identity/role using all of these tools, which I think it great. Is it COD? Yup, pretty much. But it's not. We haven't had this level of player customization yet in a HALO game, so I'm feeling VERY open now to what we will be presented with. All of this shit looks terrible in writing, especially from the idiots who distributed the leaked info. Of course they're going to put a certain spin on the info that makes your stomach turn.
So yeah, unexpected rant a little bit. But I am very happy right now, and I am a person who hated the direction Reach took. And I absolutely cannot fucking wait for the Halo 4 sex we're going to be getting at E3.
Hydranockz
Member
Forget about what I was saying then. Carry on.
Emotions are clearly high. Rightfully so. Wires are getting crossed (in my head moreso than other places)
Zeouterlimits
Member
I ended up deeply disappointed and don't play it anymore (which caused a moment of hilarity earlier on live).
I see things I consider core like spawn timers removed (in certain unclarified places).
So what changed?
A) Reach came out
B) The information and some of the art for Halo 4 came out
Edit: ^ Well now. *hugs*
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
My concern is less with the abilities and more with the issue of balance. When you have that many interchangeable variables that a person can put on them self and potentially abuse balance becomes a pain in the ass. Without a public beta for a "good" length of time, all the game will be exposed to is small control groups of people who won't play like the mass population (griefing, abusing, min/maxing). There is almost guaranteed to be something in this loadout that's going to "break" the game and make it "suck" to a lot of people for whatever reason until it's fixed/rebalanced. But typically when that happens something else will inevitably arise again to break the system. Then Halo's MP is at the whim of 343's MP group to update and fix, whenever they feel the need (which is scary to think about.)
Doesn't matter when we have two redundant godrifles now from 343 "We have changes to the DMR that you haven't seen yet that balance out the reduced bloom in the Reach TU" Industries. Just write off the multi like I did and look forward to the campaign. Unless you really want to play Halo 2 Multiplayer Part 2: The BRening.
Rest of the stuff leaked hasn't really moved my opinion of it one way or another.
ElzarTheBam
Member
That was amazing unscripted hilarity.
The Librarian
Banned
In case you all missed Urk's rendition of my bubble bigfoot screen grab mystery in the other thread. I know many of you don't visit there much.
Bahahahhaa
The Real Napsta
Member
yeah i don't get it either.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Myke just can't handle himself.
Steelyuhas
Member
In case you all missed Urk's rendition of my bubble bigfoot screen grab mystery in the other thread. I know many of you don't visit there much.
Hahaha
That's fucking great.
So I went and found the regen part from the vid, it appears to fully recharge your shields almost instantly. :/
ElzarTheBam
Member
Myyke keep your hands to yourself!
The Librarian
Banned
I have videos saved of my first time through "Sierra 117" and part of "Crow's Nest." Here's what I did the first time I tackled the Brute hallway:
1. Didn't noticed, and so completely bypassed, the rack of shotguns next to the entrance.
2. Killed the two Brute "scouts" at the start and used the gravity lifts to jump up to the second floor. Then I stumble my way to a weapons rack and pick up a shotgun.
3. I fight off a number of brave Brutes with the shotgun.
4. Chieftain comes after me. I fire a couple of shotgun rounds at him, and throw him off by deploying another gravity lift in his path. I eventually die by a hammer swing.
5. Next life I immediately attack the two Brute scouts.
6. I stay on the first level for far longer but move up to the second level again. I make better use of the side rooms this time.
7. I take out more of the Brute squad before the Chieftain decides to challenge me. In my ignorance I try to stick him a couple of times. Bastard! He forces me back to the first floor, and a hammer swing propels me back to the second. I kill him by unloading the AR into him, and use his gravity hammer to kill the final Brute.
Interesting to look at your first run through a game. Almost like playing it for the first time again. I think this was the easiest time I've had taking out the Brutes here. Now I'm just too careless lol.
1. Didn't noticed, and so completely bypassed, the rack of shotguns next to the entrance.
2. Killed the two Brute "scouts" at the start and used the gravity lifts to jump up to the second floor. Then I stumble my way to a weapons rack and pick up a shotgun.
3. I fight off a number of brave Brutes with the shotgun.
4. Chieftain comes after me. I fire a couple of shotgun rounds at him, and throw him off by deploying another gravity lift in his path. I eventually die by a hammer swing.
5. Next life I immediately attack the two Brute scouts.
6. I stay on the first level for far longer but move up to the second level again. I make better use of the side rooms this time.
7. I take out more of the Brute squad before the Chieftain decides to challenge me. In my ignorance I try to stick him a couple of times. Bastard! He forces me back to the first floor, and a hammer swing propels me back to the second. I kill him by unloading the AR into him, and use his gravity hammer to kill the final Brute.
Interesting to look at your first run through a game. Almost like playing it for the first time again. I think this was the easiest time I've had taking out the Brutes here. Now I'm just too careless lol.
Urgh... hopefully it ain't as fast in the final game. Halo 3 regen would've been ok if it had been really short (lasts just a couple of seconds, ie quick one-time recharge) or if it had been a lot slower (constant low-speed recharge).
Fast regen is not a problem if you cannot use it often (once per 2-3 minutes or so) and it can be interrupted or something
Fear of *significant* spoilers getting leaked. I believe.
Wants to be surprised for E3 and probably avoid any campaign stuff being leaked.
Rickenslacker
Banned
"Until E3 reveals" has me thinking leaks and subsequent discussion of.
Hydranockz
Member
The financial collapse of the Eurozone.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
The leaks in general I do believe.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I see. Well, it may sound foolish, but I do trust everyone at 343. They all love Halo just as much as we do. Every day they breathe Halo, while we sit at the computer bitching about this and that and maybe spend a few hours a day playing (being generous with that).
So yeah, based on that, and what's at stake, they will not fuck this up.
Hydranockz
Member
Ian Lemon?
xxjuicesxx
Member
A clever ruse. We all know hes bailing to play some H4 beta.
Hydranockz
Member
NDA's prompted the bailout? Iiiiinteresting.
You've assumed that HaloGAF is comprised of Halo's most dedicated fans. That's kind of arrogant. It's also arrogant to think whatever consensus people here might come to would amount to what's best for the game.
And now they can just drop it down wherever and whenever they want since its an armor ability.
Yeah, being able to spawn with something that powerful whenever you want is not okay.
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