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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days
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So wrong... I'm 36 with likely much slower "twitch-reflexes" than the general population, and played on a top page GB team for two years because of "thinking and tactics".
It's more of the game playing for you... sure, better players likely will still win the encounter, but many people do not like the premise of the game artificially inflating players abilities.
Many hard-core Halo fans are purists... be them casual type players, or very competitive. It's not about entitlement, nor about being made for just Halo fans in their eyes. It's about staying true to the values they perceived in the game starting in HCE. Just because there is a reality, doesn't mean people can't voice their dislike for that reality... BigShow may not voice his dislike in a non-abrasive manner, but his core premise is valid enough, and he has a right to it.
lLemonDemon
Member
I would put sprint on X and armor ability on A, because in Reach when you have sprint and bumper jumper, it's on X.
RebornYeti
Member
I'm more of fan of Halo 3's Bumper Jumper than I am of Reach's, so that is why I have it the way it is, but I wouldn't mind this either. Anything is better than what we'll potentially get in Halo 4. :/
Drop shield requires a moment of holding X, a moment that prevents me from aiming while doing it. Without aiming, i cannot shoot. (Not that i get to use Drop Shield much, nor do i even use it even if it is possible to use.)
Armor lock would save me so often if i didn't have to use it on X. A moot point due to it not being in Halo 4, however.
And jetpack was mentioned already.
But the point is, Halo Reach as abilities that do not work as simple toggle, so i have no reason to belive all abilities (outside jetpack) work as toggleable abilities in Halo 4.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I just don't know who in their right mind at 343 thinks X for grenade makes any kind of sane sense. The whole point of Bumper Jumper is to have all the movement and combat abilities that could require aiming to not leave your thumb off the stick.
From HaloCouncil: http://halocouncil.com/f7/rof-br-h2vh3vh4-3417/
So, 5 shots with the H4 BR is .37 seconds slower than the H2 BR; roughly.
Significant? I personally don't really think so.
So, 5 shots with the H4 BR is .37 seconds slower than the H2 BR; roughly.
Significant? I personally don't really think so.
A third of a second is pretty significant, especially since the max kill speeds in H2/3/Reach aren't great to begin with.
ElzarTheBam
Member
My baby.
But we still don't know whether Halo 4 BR can 4shot people. If it can... how fast it would kill?
Indeed. Love it. Carbine+Plasma Pistol is my main loadout.
Bestman tested it on someone standing still, it is currently 5sk.
However, I don't know if I agree that 1/3rd of a second is very significant overall. Escape mechanisms, player aim, and range will likely have much more effect on the outcome of a gun battle.
A 4sk H4 BR would kill faster than H2 BR / ZBDMR, like ~1.3-1.4 from that person's captured data. Although this would hopefully be rare.
What? I don't even
Barrow Roll
Member
This is awesome. Thanks for the link.
We've known it's a 5 shot kill for over a month.
RebornYeti
Member
I wonder if the Light Rifle and Carbine are 5sk weapons too...
Zoso Achilles
Member
Bolded: No, not for me. Crouching and aiming at the same time is a must.
As for the rest, yep, this is exactly what I want. I really wish frankie can just tell us all the control schemes, it seems so trivial to be withholding that information. Idea: put them in the next halo bulletin, quick and easy.
I think sprint on A and AA on X is the way to go. In reach, it is possible to jetpack with bumper jumper by clawing (hit x with right index finger.) This is not ideal, of course, but would be easier than hitting A.
It's not only about the 1/3 of a second, it's also that you have to land 5 shots. That's 25% more shots. Add in the escape mechanisms, such as the thruster, and ...
The fuck? It should be 4 shot kill at best, like in Halo 3. Or they need to up the magazine to... 40? Something like that anyway.
It's been known for quite some time that he's a scrub.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Light rifle looks like a power weapon, fires slower aswell. I dont even know if its in MP. my guess is 2-3 SK scoped 4SK unscoped if its in MP.
A better player can land those shots better than a worse player, I fail to see why this would be a bad thing. Forcing a player to land more shots in the same kill time period widens the skill gap.
Wasn't it in a vid? One of those IGN ones. I'd guess it's properties are fairly similar to the DMR. Looks like it fires a bit slower, but does more damage per shot.
Barrow Roll
Member
That was the Scattershot.
Ah, ok. Surely it's in multiplayer though
Ajemsuhgao
Member
Being at E3, waiting for an event that isn't happening until this evening, and NOT being able to go into the actual main event sucks. So. Much.
well so am i, so theres that.
So is Over, so there's that too
Blue Ninja
Member
Dishonored gameplay on gamespot. Excite.
Left and Right on the D-Pad for Grenade Switching isn't realistic because those are already reserved for ordnance drops but Up on the D-Pad would totally work. Make it so Stinkles!
He said in the same kill period.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
I don't mind the time it takes to 5sk with the BR as much as I mind the clip size. You need to have enough ammo to get a full triple without reloading.
Having that extra AA really fucks with controls. The only feasible way to have bumper jumper AND aiming with jetpack is to have jetpack mapped to jumping in mid-air, which will never happen. Next best scenario is to map AA to RB and melee to B, which still isn't ideal. Time to learn how to claw, guys?
Also, insert CoD-in-my-Halo hate.
Having that extra AA really fucks with controls. The only feasible way to have bumper jumper AND aiming with jetpack is to have jetpack mapped to jumping in mid-air, which will never happen. Next best scenario is to map AA to RB and melee to B, which still isn't ideal. Time to learn how to claw, guys?
Also, insert CoD-in-my-Halo hate.
biosnake20
Member
Are ordnance drops in both infinite slayer and regular team slayer?
But it's .37 seconds longer.
RebornYeti
Member
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Up would work as well.
That is true, I guess I just don't see that as being very significant in the scheme of getting kills/killed.
TS x Massacre
Member
It's possible it may be four shot (it can definitely be noted he takes a small amount of dmg from his side/behind him):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VoHQbIMCrD0#t=98s
Frankie pls
I want a controller that works by thinking/visualizing. I think/visualize what i want to do and that happens
*grenade there (a point i think would be a good place for a grenade)*
And the character automatically aims there and throws the 'nade.
This way we don't need to complain and discuss about control schemes.
Kinect is old-fashioned next to this.
*grenade there (a point i think would be a good place for a grenade)*
And the character automatically aims there and throws the 'nade.
This way we don't need to complain and discuss about control schemes.
Kinect is old-fashioned next to this.
I see one more shot as one more shot potentially missing. Also, having less shots to kill means that missing a shot gives you more of a penalty than with 5-shot.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Maximum jealousy.
Blue Ninja
Member
Preordered Dishonored. It looks too awesome.
Hypertrooper
Member
I had so many opportunities to talk with 343 devs at PAX Prime last year but no I am German and was too shy to speak.
It really does. I'll probably end up waiting a month or two after it releases, but it's one of the most interesting games I've seen this e3.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Actually fair warning, the guys implied I'm German again on the HaloGAF podcast. I hope I did your people proud. Tell Merkel to give my country all the monies.I had so many opportunities to talk with 343 devs at PAX Prime last year but no I am German and was too shy to speak.