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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
I believe the arms are there because thats how their built. There's no forerunner or robot inside the suit. The whole thing is a robot.

Exactly.

We may yet face the prometheans... They are likely really really big. Didact was originally 4 meters tall


We got told at e3 they are "forerunner defensive AI's"

Well that was more describing the crawlers

When we see the promethean knight cortana says "whatever it is, it's not organic"
 

Gray Man

Banned
I've been thinking about the User Interface more, and aside from minor tweaking that I'm sure they will continue to do, Its starting to grow on me for sure.

I think its a smart move to simplify the U.I. a bit, make it easier to find things. The only problem I had with Reach's UI was once you went into the sub menus and options the visual hierarchy started to fall apart.
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I couldn't find a better picture to demonstrate what I'm talking about, but in the Social settings, things like Motivation might be the filter you are looking for, but its the same size as the specific mode of motivation listed. This gets to be a worse problem in the menus for altering controls, files, map files, game play files, you name it.

Now with Halo 4's UI, or should I say the work in progress build we have seen so far, I'm starting to like what I see.

Here is a video of some of Halo 4's UI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBg9DypNb9M&feature=player_embedded

Now the guy gets caught up looking at armor towards the end of the video but I think we can extrapolate a couple goals from what we have seen so far.

-Halo 4's UI elements are larger, less negative space
-An emphasis on showcasing a players "Spartan", instead of their emblem.
-Compared to Halo Reach's almost exclusively text based UI, Halo 4 relies more on icons.

What jumps out to me at first is Halo 4's UI, in more ways that Reach, moves horizontally instead of vertically, This makes sense given the way an HD Tv is proportioned. When you put things from left to right, you can display them larger, and more importantly, display their spartan. This has to be the reason for this particular choice, otherwise why make a spot for their name and emblem that large? Its nice that people will more easily be able to view your spartan now, although it wasn't much harder in Halo Reach.

Overall it seems the User Interface has a lot less breathing room, something some people here obviously either don't like, or its a big change from previous Halo games.

The larger emphasis on horizontal movement is refreshing too, in fact, one of my favorite elements of the Reach UI design is how if you say, hovered over someones name, or went from the "game options" over to the player list how the screen would orient itself in a slightly different way.

I don't really understand a majority of the UI complaints thus far... most of it just seems like people complaining because its different, not because its poorly designed.
 

raindoc

Member
We got told at e3 they are "forerunner defensive AI's"

i wouldn't take a bet on the "AI" part anyway. apart from Cortana saying "whatever it is" = aka hinting that it's more than just an AI, the FR-books have established a culture of mind & spirit conservation as big part of the FR-society. the skull and small arms (as in limbs) seem to indicate that something's inside of the robots and then there's the idea that the FR had no reason to commit species-wide suicide by not saving at least some members of their species from extinction. like the Protheans in ME (and even without that recent "example") you'd expect them to save themselves at least partially - if only to prepare the reseeded galaxy for what is to come (they did know the Timeless One was talking about coming back 110,000 years in the future = now, fiction wise).
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
The one thing I want to know is if the thing pictured at the end of the halo concept art video is the promethean knights or if it's something else

I will be disappointed if it is the knight lol
 

Slaker117

Member

The new UI seems plenty functional, I just think it looks ugly. This is a petty complaint, I know, but I prefer minimalist aesthetics, not showing any more than you need to. The reliance on large icons and portraits just looks clumsy. It feels like it was designed for a tablet or something.
 
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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Back on the Internet after kayaking for two days. SO MUCH HAS HAPPENED. It's gonna take me so long to catch up. I demand summaries (please).
 

Tawpgun

Member
i wouldn't take a bet on the "AI" part anyway. apart from Cortana saying "whatever it is" = aka hinting that it's more than just an AI, the FR-books have established a culture of mind & spirit conservation as big part of the FR-society. the skull and small arms (as in limbs) seem to indicate that something's inside of the robots and then there's the idea that the FR had no reason to commit species-wide suicide by not saving at least some members of their species from extinction. like the Protheans in ME (and even without that recent "example") you'd expect them to save themselves at least partially - if only to prepare the reseeded galaxy for what is to come (they did know the Timeless One was talking about coming back 110,000 years in the future = now, fiction wise).

The only thing we know is that forerunner warrior servants who died in battle, if possible, had their essences recaptured somehow, and in the Didacts case, his children became his War Sphinx's.

Is it possible that forerunner warrior essence is in each of those robots... maybe, but I find that unlikely, especially taking in the fact that the crawler and watcher exist. Why would a forerunner warrior be made into simple cannon fodder.

I think its robot AI. Think of it like Requiems sentinels, or if they truly are the Didacts machines, then think of it as his personal drone army.
 

daedalius

Member
The only thing we know is that forerunner warrior servants who died in battle, if possible, had their essences recaptured somehow, and in the Didacts case, his children became his War Sphinx's.

Is it possible that forerunner warrior essence is in each of those robots... maybe, but I find that unlikely, especially taking in the fact that the crawler and watcher exist. Why would a forerunner warrior be made into simple cannon fodder.

I think its robot AI. Think of it like Requiems sentinels, or if they truly are the Didacts machines, then think of it as his personal drone army.

The
Composer might have something to do with all of Didact's warriors being put into AI bodies of some sort
 
Played ODST again today.


Gazzawa got a sweet jumping double sticky on a chieftain at the end of set 1, I couldn't capture it though bro, the HDR lighting does not get along with my camera.

Second game.


Near the end of this round, we were down to 0 lives, with a boss round coming up. So we decide to head into the corridors as a team. Awesome plan, until a chieftain shows up, then we start screaming in a weird unison.

At this moment I'm shouting get down, I'll deal with!!! And then, this happens.

Sorry guys! :p
 
The only thing we know is that forerunner warrior servants who died in battle, if possible, had their essences recaptured somehow, and in the Didacts case, his children became his War Sphinx's.

Is it possible that forerunner warrior essence is in each of those robots... maybe, but I find that unlikely, especially taking in the fact that the crawler and watcher exist. Why would a forerunner warrior be made into simple cannon fodder.

I think its robot AI. Think of it like Requiems sentinels, or if they truly are the Didacts machines, then think of it as his personal drone army.

I agree with the last line. And if A.I. that has a Forerunner's Essence would be more complex, sophisticated like 343GS.
 
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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Yah, I picked up on the weirdGAF stuff. Nothing unusual there. I'm talking about Halo 4 news! Can't wait to watch those SpOps videos when I get home...

New grenade looks cool. Does it deal damage, or just EMP? Does it effect both shields and vehicles? Anything else unique about it?
 
and that note, I still have some stuff to give out.

-1 more ONI patch
-Thursday War/Silentium Poster
-Female XXS Tee signed by Bonnie Ross, BS Angel, and Alison Stroll.


I'll start with the last ONI Patch...

What is the name of the Star Wars character that Frankie so aptly imitated at one of the SDCC panels?
 

Slaker117

Member
and that note, I still have some stuff to give out.

-1 more ONI patch
-Thursday War/Silentium Poster
-Female XXS Tee signed by Bonnie Ross, BS Angel, and Alison Stroll.


I'll start with the last ONI Patch...

What is the name of the Star Wars character that Frankie so aptly imitated at one of the SDCC panels?

Lobot
 
Played ODST again today.



Gazzawa got a sweet jumping double sticky on a chieftain at the end of set 1, I couldn't capture it though bro, the HDR lighting does not get along with my camera.

Second game.



Near the end of this round, we were down to 0 lives, with a boss round coming up. So we decide to head into the corridors as a team. Awesome plan, until a chieftain shows up, then we start screaming in a weird unison.

At this moment I'm shouting get down, I'll deal with!!! And then, this happens.

Sorry guys! :p

You guys better still be doing this when I'm back again! Would love to do some ODST to celebrate my long awaited return :p
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
and that note, I still have some stuff to give out.

-1 more ONI patch
-Thursday War/Silentium Poster
-Female XXS Tee signed by Bonnie Ross, BS Angel, and Alison Stroll.


I'll start with the last ONI Patch...

What is the name of the Star Wars character that Frankie so aptly imitated at one of the SDCC panels?
yoda
 
Back on the Internet after kayaking for two days. SO MUCH HAS HAPPENED. It's gonna take me so long to catch up. I demand summaries (please).

Here are the links to the highlight posts over the last few hours.

Improved Icon Suggestion
Defense of Bad Icons
Halo 3 Equipment Icons
Semiotics (study of symbols and icons) explains why Halo 4 icons suck
UI Gradually Getting Worse

And the best for last which caused a massive derailment:
Cortana is modeled after a porn star
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
and that note, I still have some stuff to give out.

-1 more ONI patch
-Thursday War/Silentium Poster
-Female XXS Tee signed by Bonnie Ross, BS Angel, and Alison Stroll.


I'll start with the last ONI Patch...

What is the name of the Star Wars character that Frankie so aptly imitated at one of the SDCC panels?

Darth Vader without his helmet in the original trilogy?




:p
 
I wonder if there will be Sentinels in Halo 4.

I assume it depends on protocol. Since Defensive A.I.s are present, Sentinels roles are meant else where away from any major threat. In this case The Didact activated that defensive protocol considering The Forward Unto Dawn, Covenant Ship, and later on The Infinity are pulled into Requiem.
 
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