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Halo |OT6| I will not allow you to leave this thread!
- Thread starter The Librarian
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No problem.
Too bad it's not accurate...
Either way last I checked I was like 90% avoided.
Yeah, I know, that's why it's funny. I have never seen people, which have prefered a player. It's all about avoiding them... And most of them are not giving feedback at all. How should they, nobody wants to waste their time and do such uninmportant things.
Halo 4 will be perff... will be perfecccccc... i cant.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Gah, cursed phone deleted my response.
Basically, if they put their name to it, it's evaluateable in book. And my whole point is, show us what's different to Reach so we can understand and be confident that past mistakes won't be repeated. Matchmaking just stands out as an unmentioned area when they've hit pretty much every other tent pole
(which is why I suggested PAX as a good place to talk about it, a bit like how Shishka did that (and Forge) for Reach at CC in 2010.I'm still holding onto this post:Gah, cursed phone deleted my response.
Basically, if they put their name to it, it's evaluateable in book. And my whole point is, show us what's different to Reach so we can understand and be confident that past mistakes won't be repeated. Matchmaking just stands out as an unmentioned area when they've hit pretty much every other tent pole
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38396318&postcount=12590
I'm sure it will come in handy.
Barrow Roll
Member
Shut up bitch.
Shuddup bitch.
Sorry to hear about your grandma, man.
The Librarian
Banned
He had over 100,000 years to think about what happened. I think it's just a case of him realizing he was wrong to do what he did. He realized the Gravemind manipulated him, and he wanted to make up for what he had done.
Whether or not every change will work out, just be excited to try it all.
HiredN00bs
Member
Hey, we played a match together the other day. I took note of that tag.
I consider voice ban to be another stupid feature (and a broken one for that matter)created by bungie and i hope it is taken off in Halo 4.
The Librarian
Banned
How does one get voice banned? By looking at how many people have muted you over time?
Because whenever I'm playing alone I just mute everyone in the pre-game lobby.
Because whenever I'm playing alone I just mute everyone in the pre-game lobby.
HiredN00bs
Member
Voice bans and quitter bans are wonderful features. They could use some tweaks, I'm sure, but fuck quitters and obnoxious mic users.
Do you ever unmute people who are voice banned? Blaring music, awful Kinect setups, ignoramuses, racists. It's just a shame that MLG kids can't be troubled to go team and party.
Do you ever unmute people who are voice banned? Blaring music, awful Kinect setups, ignoramuses, racists. It's just a shame that MLG kids can't be troubled to go team and party.
Did you also enjoy being invited to a pre-release VIP Halo 4 party with the developers?
Yeah, the problem with this ban is that how it is made: once you get it, it doesn't go away.
The thing is that any mute is counted towards the ban, for example every MLG pro and GB player is mute banned because you have to mute the other team so you dont hear them while you are playing, so here you are not muting because the guy is annoying, you are muting for sake of playing.
Besides is not as if manually muting someone is rocket science.
the thing is: i don't think an AI would need that much time to make up his mind or even second guess his choices - as an AI i expect him to follow logic, to calculate all his decisions and once he made his choice, i don't think he would have second thoughts... unless new data is presented/the presets are changed.
NobleGundam
Banned
Woke up to this. Speechless...I'm curious to know what type of pjs Heckfu sports.
I was thinking something along the lines of...
Muting and unmuting is so quick, easy and fun.
Hypertrooper
Member
No. An AI can make mistakes too. If the Gravemind influenced him too much that he made wrong assumption, then it can be wrong. The Gravemind could have given him wrong information. On these based information, Mendicant Bias calculated that it was better for the Forerunner to unify with the Flood. Afterwards when MB had processed its deeds again, he discovered that all the stuff he had done were wrong, cruel for his old masters. Then he wanted atonement and helped the Chief.
HiredN00bs
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I'm confused about what you're saying. Isn't the purpose of muting the other team to make it so they can't hear you and your team? That's why they put in the "TEAM AND PARTY" voice option. And I don't think that each instance of muting someone counts towards the ban, only aggregate mutes counted at one per unique user. I would think that if you muted someone and then un-muted them before separating, it would not count against them.
I'm particularly confused by your last line. Are you saying that manually muting one player at a time, team after team, is so easy, it's not worth turning on a feature that gives you the same results with a single button press for all time? Okay, if it is that easy, then you shouldn't have a problem un-muting each other at the end of a match.
I think it would have been appropriate for Bungie to turn off cross-team chat in the MLG list, given the way it has turned out.
Question: Will setting your voice options to TEAM AND PARTY make it so opposing players cannot mute you and spam you out for a mute ban in MLG list?
The Librarian
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It's not that it took him 100,000 years to make up his mind – he could have changed his mind in 1,000 – but it's not like he was in a position to do anything for those 100,000 years.
Also, I think your expectation of AIs in Halo is wrong. From the beginning, there's been a biological component to AIs, that of mapping human brain patterns for human AIs and (Primordium spoilers)
turning consciousnesses into an AIs
More than anything its a habit of just quickly muting the whole other team, besides, In custom games the whole 8 players are in a party regardless if you are on a different team. so you are going to hear them either way if they are not muted.
I'm not sure how it works, but regardless, it doesn't take that many mutes to get a Ban and in a single custom you have 4 players muting you, if you played 4 different teams in one day, those are 16 different mute.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Hopping on for some H3 BTB in 25 mins, join me!
Here's the thing with biggy's ban, though: when I run across people on XBL who've been mute-banned, I see the little circle-with-the-slash next to their name - and I can choose to manually unmute them. mastrbiggy has no such symbol next to his name - and no way to manually un-mute him. When he logs on with that gamertag, it looks to other players like he doesn't have a mic plugged in at all. (And it's clearly not a hardware issue, because if he logs out of that gamertag and into his temp tag, everything works fine.)
biggy - I'm wondering if you didn't somehow set your audio prefs to ban YOURSELF, or something... or turn on family restrictions, or SOMETHING. Possible?
I wish someone from 343 would weigh in on what might be causing biggy's issue - and whether there's any solution to the problem?
biggy - I'm wondering if you didn't somehow set your audio prefs to ban YOURSELF, or something... or turn on family restrictions, or SOMETHING. Possible?
I wish someone from 343 would weigh in on what might be causing biggy's issue - and whether there's any solution to the problem?
Your live is working? I just turned on my XBOX and it didnt went to XBL...
ElzarTheBam
Member
Hmmm, I dunno, I'll find out in 25 mins, I guess.
Interesting, can he party chat? because there is a mute matchmaking voice in Halo Reach Options.
The Librarian
Banned
Will do. Send me an invite when you're online.
that's what i wrote: thing's have changed. either new info or old info proved to be wrong. no matter what, the premises must have changed.
yes they have emotions and they can make mistakes, BUT: they're also computer enough that the same set of data should not lead to two different outcomes/decisions. IIRC it took years for the Flood to turn MB? can we agree that it wasn't an emotional decision then, but based on a long series of arguments. if we further can agree that regret (not the prophet
) & the search for atonement isn't a symptom of rampancy, i'd say it is most likely that MB got the variables of his calculation wrong and discovered that only after he had been defeated...what outcome? MB knew that the halo array had been fired, it happened in the middle of his battle against OB and of course he remembers being defeated. he knows about the outcome of the flood-forerunner war and that outcome might be the reason for his 2nd turn. maybe the Flood made predictions/promises they couldn't keep, leading MB to re-evaluate things?
or: maybe he didn't turn at all? we don't know what happened or will happen on requiem, isn't it possible that MB has a habit of betraying the same master twice, for example by sending the Reclaimer to Requiem - containing the ancient evil - not to fight, but to unleash it?
lot's of possible explanations, but a spontaneous change of mind is not one of them, IMHO.
I may have to play some social in the hopes of getting matched against you so I can show you people don't always go + >
The Real Napsta
Member
Halo 3 netcode is beyond awful. TU Reach > H3
NobleGundam
Banned
Agreed with this. After being defeated by offensive bias, he was captured and became a shard of his former self. Contained within the key ship unable to respond after the disconnection in High Charity, and later being reconnected on The Ark. Since then, his existence wasn't clarified of the outcome, but if he did escaped then it would make a good plot twist after Halo 4 going unto 5-6.
The Librarian
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I think you're not including certain events – not intentionally – and this is why you're coming to the conclusion you are. It seems you're only including the events surrounding Mendicant Bias up until the point he switched sides to the Gravemind. Remember: He was defeated by Offensive Bias, and it's entirely possible he had some interaction with his AI opponent after he was captured. So after he was defeated, in addition to whatever events he witnessed that were a direct result of his decision – so, in your thinking, "new sets of data" – he reevaluated everything. He looked at the consequences of his actions, and thus my original point:yes they have emotions and they can make mistakes, BUT: they're also computer enough that the same set of data should not lead to two different outcomes/decisions. IIRC it took years for the Flood to turn MB? can we agree that it wasn't an emotional decision then, but based on a long series of arguments. if we further can agree that regret (not the prophet
ElzarTheBam
Member
Getting on now Dax-e-chums.
Too bad it's not accurate...
Either way last I checked I was like 90% avoided.
Yeah. The favored/avoid is skewed due to incorrect language in the description. It reads something like "x% of players either favorited you or didn't vote. X% avoided you..."
The reality behind the system is that it only tallies the people who actually took the time to vote positive of negative. So out of all the people who vote x% want you on their team and x% got mad at you for dumping on them, trolling, or not playing the objective etc.
Personally I avoid all full parties of inheritors. Helps you never to get matched with them again.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
You guys sleep at all? OvernightGaf kept the party going it looks like.
Reach plain old > Halo 3.
shut up bitch
is what they were saying all night
Yeah pretty much. I tried to get back into playing some H3 the past few weeks and omg. For every good connection game there are 2 terrible laggy games. Black screen, host change, back to lobby......
The Real Napsta
Member
I'd agree other than the fact that I'd rather LAN H3 than vanilla Reach. Online though I agree.
ElzarTheBam
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Be back at 10.00 pm my time, after work.
That's your opinion, in my opinion, the only thing Reach beats H3 on is the connection.
Zoso Achilles
Member
Why are you yelling at me? So you think they won't change the BR; I hope they do, but I think I agree with you, if nerfing the carbine is anything to go by. I'm curious though, what other changes could they make to it before release other than rate of fire or shots to kill?
Perfect !
edit: I have to say I was suprised that yesterday every game was okay and went fluently in H3
I've been playing Halo 3 the last few months, yeah the connection is bad at times but usually I get good matches. The thing is its much, much more fun for me. I don't feel like stopping after one game like I do with Reach, I have that same feeling like I do when I used to play back then which was "just one more game" and end up playing another 5 matches.
I mean Reach is fun at times, usually when I have a full party to play with, otherwise for me its unplayable. Halo 3 all the way, and hopefully Halo 4 can bring back the "just one more game" feeling.
I mean Reach is fun at times, usually when I have a full party to play with, otherwise for me its unplayable. Halo 3 all the way, and hopefully Halo 4 can bring back the "just one more game" feeling.
Well this changes everything. It must be something wrong with the preferences.
Good, that there are settings in Halo to mute all on the opponent team or to mute everybody. I don't want to listen to some people. My ears are bleeding, if I here 12 years old kids swearing and singing.
People in MLG are welcome, cause some of them are giving callouts.
5% of them
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