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Halo: Reach |OT3| This Thread is Not a Natural Formation
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Hey You said:
Trying those settings out when I get home tommorow. Just from looking at them they seem awesome.
EDIT: Read over the thread.
Grenades are even STRONGER with these settings, but Jeremiah maintains that the upped mobility makes them easier to avoid.
The only part of the sandbox that breaks with these settings is the sniper. Apparently its a 1 shot kill anywhere on the body if they have 1 or more shots on them.
They could just limit sniper ammo I guess... I dunno.
xxjuicesxx
Member
A27 Tawpgun said:
Umm isn't that how the sniper works no matter what playlist? Once they have a little damage a one shot anywhere kills.
How would grenades be stronger, necessarily? I mean if you're in a tight corridor, i.e. Reflection's top room or in the library in Lockout, you might feel the heat. But with the higher movement it should be easier to evade such grenades.
I have the gametype setting already saved - just needed to change the melee modifier (some on the thread want it to be 75% "like" MLG).
I have the gametype setting already saved - just needed to change the melee modifier (some on the thread want it to be 75% "like" MLG).
Barrow Roll
Member
I'll play with you if you're still on in like 20-30 mins. Eager to try out the Classic settings.wwm0nkey said:
Barrow Roll
Member
Cool. Just cookin up some dinner then I'll hop online.wwm0nkey said:
Blue Ninja
Member
I'll need to test those settings, too. Looks very interesting.
Okay, I like the running speed, but jumping feels a bit wrong, dunno why.
Okay, I like the running speed, but jumping feels a bit wrong, dunno why.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
The classic settings are awesome. 
I salivate at a playlist with a mixture of Old School Halo 2 style assault, 2-Flag, Team Slayer....
Roll on the April update.
I salivate at a playlist with a mixture of Old School Halo 2 style assault, 2-Flag, Team Slayer....
Roll on the April update.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Holy crap you die fast with the new settings! Liking them ... I think.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
xxjuicesxx said:
I heird it taekes 16 shoots to kull. Truu?
Steelyuhas
Member
Plywood said:
Oddly hasn't really been the case for me. I would think that Team Slayer only being 4v4 and having very high populations would mean that DLC would come up more often, but I have seen more DLC in Invasion and Multiteam, which have 4 more players and much lower populations.
With that said, DLC in any playlist is still extremely rare for me. :/
Classic settings looks cool, I look forward to that playlist, especially with the possibility of classic Halo maps.
So we tried the new settings (which I quickly set up) on Condemned, and needless to say I think every one enjoyed those games, hell we even tried the new settings plus the old school CTF rules on Highlands and it too was fun.
I have also gone ahead and created the old Halo 2, 1 bomb gametype. Which we can test on saturday in customs.
Annnnd.... I am also done with the achievements, wohoo.
I have also gone ahead and created the old Halo 2, 1 bomb gametype. Which we can test on saturday in customs.
Annnnd.... I am also done with the achievements, wohoo.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
God I can't wait to play Highlands...
I've got a LAN at the end of the month, so will getting plenty of 5 v 5 games in.
I've got a LAN at the end of the month, so will getting plenty of 5 v 5 games in.
Zeouterlimits
Member
\o/ I have XBL in my new apartment finally! Played my first matches of multiplayer since January 9th with Hydranockz (before promptly falling asleep due to mid-term study).
Glad to be back
Glad to be back
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
Zeouterlimits said:\o/ I have XBL in my new apartment finally! Played my first matches of multiplayer since January 9th with Hydranockz (before promptly falling asleep due to mid-term study).
Glad to be back
Must be nice to be back online. I'd hate to not have Live, I've been on the service for 8 years now.
If there's a chance for 8v8, there needs to be CTF game at Coagulation. It plays brilliantly.
The Noble Creek map was ok - bases seemed rather open inside, but seemed shorter on the outside. Overall it was pretty solid.
On my 360 I got a Lockout, Elongation, Coagulation, and a Midship map.
The Noble Creek map was ok - bases seemed rather open inside, but seemed shorter on the outside. Overall it was pretty solid.
On my 360 I got a Lockout, Elongation, Coagulation, and a Midship map.
Barrow Roll
Member
Classic settings are really fun but not perfect. Grenades are really powerful. I think starting with only 1 is a must or make them pickups entirely. And the sniper takes you down to 1 bar of health if you get a body shot so you can follow up with a shot anywhere for the kill. Kinda lame but I wouldn't want to give up the 4 shot kills. Other than that, good stuff so far. Definitely an improvement over vanilla Reach.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
I need more of HaloGAF on my Friends list. If you have room, please add me.
Blue Ninja
Member
I've got some room on my FL. GT's BlueNinja BE. Add me if you like.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
Thanks guys. Done.
Hypertrooper
Member
If you want a german dude in your FL, then you could add me aswell:
Gamertag is Hypertrooper (Yep. it is the same name like here and on twitter)
@DefiantMapPack User: Can we meet up for a 8vs8 CTF match? I hope, we'll find that amount of person to try it out.
Gamertag is Hypertrooper (Yep. it is the same name like here and on twitter)
@DefiantMapPack User: Can we meet up for a 8vs8 CTF match? I hope, we'll find that amount of person to try it out.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
Hypertrooper said:If you want a german dude in your FL, then you could add me aswell:
Gamertag is Hypertrooper (Yep. it is the same name like here and on twitter)
@DefiantMapPack User: Can we meet up for a 8vs8 CTF match? I hope, we'll find that amount of person to try it out.
Get me a code and I'm there.
Seriously.
And, yeah I'll add you.
EDIT: Added you too Annihilator.
Man, all this early map pack stuff reminds of of when I had no school when Legendary maps came out, and I remember how there was no BTB DLC playlist to bust open Avalanche, so we ended up scouring everywhere and getting 16 players for a flag match on Avalanche. So good.
Once tuesday rolls around we need to organize an 8 v 8 match on Highlands since matchmaking probably won't deliver. I don't want to wait until custom saturdays....
Once tuesday rolls around we need to organize an 8 v 8 match on Highlands since matchmaking probably won't deliver. I don't want to wait until custom saturdays....
Barrel Cannon
Member
These classic settings work really well. After playing reach for so long the classic jumping feels so different. But then again every other halo game has floaty jumps as well so it shouldn't take long to re-adapt considering Halo 3 was the shooter I played primarily for the last 3 years.
It feels similar to MLG in the way beatdowns are a lot weaker, but it feels a lot easier to get kills with the sniper now. I don't mind that considering the DMR is a lot more useful now but being shot by a sniper after taking a dmr hit or two is a guaranteed kill now and with the lack of sprint there's going to be a lot less running away from battles now. Heck even with sprint you'll probably be screwed.
Also grenades feel like Halo 2/3's now almost. Grenade+Dmr shot=instant kill. So beautiful to use and with the fast paced movement and jump speed it's actually easier to avoid now then it was previously so it's not too overpowered(unless your playing the vanilla tight corridor maps)
It feels similar to MLG in the way beatdowns are a lot weaker, but it feels a lot easier to get kills with the sniper now. I don't mind that considering the DMR is a lot more useful now but being shot by a sniper after taking a dmr hit or two is a guaranteed kill now and with the lack of sprint there's going to be a lot less running away from battles now. Heck even with sprint you'll probably be screwed.
Also grenades feel like Halo 2/3's now almost. Grenade+Dmr shot=instant kill. So beautiful to use and with the fast paced movement and jump speed it's actually easier to avoid now then it was previously so it's not too overpowered(unless your playing the vanilla tight corridor maps)
The sniper is a power weapon so I don't see it being too much of a problem. My concern is the grenades. They are part of the Tripod (or faulty table now) and need to be in the game. Are they really too powerful?
My problems with Reach have always been Armor Lock, Grenades, and Vehicle health.
They made the grenades seemingly just as powerful as the Halo CE grenades. Our movement and jump height is also similar to CE. The difference is the CE grenades had a longer fuse and and were easier to avoid. Reach grenades have the same fuse as the Halo 2/3 ones, and they are more powerful, and player movement isn't fast enough to avoid them without a mobility AA.
Do the grenades really kill the classic settings? Because I remember begging for 1 grenade starts, and then we got Arena Season 4 (I believe) and it was glorious. No more grenade spamming. And if you did nade spam you deserved it for getting those extra grenades. People didn't just lob grenades everywhere, you had to know when to use it. I would be totally for the Classic playlist to have 1 grenade starts.
My problems with Reach have always been Armor Lock, Grenades, and Vehicle health.
They made the grenades seemingly just as powerful as the Halo CE grenades. Our movement and jump height is also similar to CE. The difference is the CE grenades had a longer fuse and and were easier to avoid. Reach grenades have the same fuse as the Halo 2/3 ones, and they are more powerful, and player movement isn't fast enough to avoid them without a mobility AA.
Do the grenades really kill the classic settings? Because I remember begging for 1 grenade starts, and then we got Arena Season 4 (I believe) and it was glorious. No more grenade spamming. And if you did nade spam you deserved it for getting those extra grenades. People didn't just lob grenades everywhere, you had to know when to use it. I would be totally for the Classic playlist to have 1 grenade starts.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Having 1 grenade starts reduces the problem but doesn't eliminate it's strength. I think map design that is tailored to the settings is the only way to balance it. That's why I'm gonna rely on the custom-made forge maps more.
But like you said the vehicles are going to take even more damage now from grenades. That's something that probably can't be balanced at all unless there was a TU(title update) that effected the whole Reach engine. The reason being is that vehicles already were easy to destroy because almost every weapon in the sandbox worked well against them. So increasing the damage is just going to further impact it now. But for now I think I'd rather take classic non-vehicle slayer over vanilla reach and just go to Reach BTB when I want vehicles.
But like you said the vehicles are going to take even more damage now from grenades. That's something that probably can't be balanced at all unless there was a TU(title update) that effected the whole Reach engine. The reason being is that vehicles already were easy to destroy because almost every weapon in the sandbox worked well against them. So increasing the damage is just going to further impact it now. But for now I think I'd rather take classic non-vehicle slayer over vanilla reach and just go to Reach BTB when I want vehicles.
Hypertrooper
Member
I hope the dog and this child are praying for the Japanese people.LosDaddie said:
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
LosDaddie said:I have a friend who is stationed in Hawaii and I haven't been able to reach him all morning.
Fingers crossed they are okay. I think they had a good warning before anything hit.
Miggytronz
Member
LosDaddie said:GGs last night, Mikasangelos.
Shame you got lagged out the first game, and then, even worse, we got slaughtered the next game.
ha yeah that shit pissed me off. Def catch up again.