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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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The Henery

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BeamImpact said:
the controllermax would be one of them, although the titan one is the newer one of that company i think
i dont follow their progress that much as im using a different adapter called xim4
it allows you to pretty much use any input device with each console, in my case the Xbox360 controller on the Xbox One
the Xbox Original controller should also work, although i havent tried it yet
on the plus side is that you can also do the button binding the way you want, bumper jumper in the H2 games is therefore doable unlike the MCC game settings that dont allow you to do so
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Yeah I'm really not feeling the One controllers longer sticks and constrictive bumpers. Looked up the price on a xim4 and balked (£140 in the UK!), controller max is a more reasonable £40. Just don't want to buy one and there's slight input lag or something.
 
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gossi

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AHappyPanda said:
There's absolutely 0 chance they let records and ranks stand as they are after the patch, don't sweat it so much.
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0 chance? They shipped a multiplayer focused game without working multiplayer. I wouldn't assume anything right now. Plus you can probably imagine the shitstorm if they reset everybody to 0.
 
FUNKNOWN iXi

FUNKNOWN iXi

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Would it not be the best option to reset the ranks after Matchmaking is functional for everyone? How many people can there be with high ranks with the game in this condition?
 
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Emperor Bohe

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gossi said:
0 chance? They shipped a multiplayer focused game without working multiplayer. I wouldn't assume anything right now. Plus you can probably imagine the shitstorm if they reset everybody to 0.
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i could be remembering wrong, but didn't they already say that they will reset the ranks? i've been staying away from the H2A playlist for that reason

and guys, the cage wasn't THAT bad.
 
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Madness

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Ramirez said:
I don't see how an extension of the H5 beta is proper compensation at all, but what do I know.
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Do we even need compensation? I mean things happen, launches don't go as planned. I don't think we deserve compensation at all and I've been vocal about how disappointed I am with the game. I'd rather they just promise to give due diligence to playlist management, maybe have their professionals who are great at forge, recreate some more maps for the H2A playlist and I'd be happy.

An extension of the beta would be nice either way though. Only thing better than 3 weeks testing Halo 5 is, 4 weeks.
 
Kssio_Aug

Kssio_Aug

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Yeah, they definitely need to fix save issues. In Halo 2 is obligatory to end the level in one run.

Am loving the campaing besides that.
 
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GavinGT

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The best compensation for me would be them fulfilling their initial promises to further improve the Halo CE netcode and finally putting up that playlist. I'm worried that things like that will get lost amidst the hundreds of other problems they need to address.
 
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AHappyPanda

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gossi said:
0 chance? They shipped a multiplayer focused game without working multiplayer. I wouldn't assume anything right now. Plus you can probably imagine the shitstorm if they reset everybody to 0.
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I still stand by 0 chance.

The shit storm from who? The few lucky thousand (hundreds?) people who got to rank up to level 10 before they got their level reset for the 3rd time randomly already?
 
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Ramirez

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Impala26 said:
So... not a fan of Lockout or Guardian then I take it?
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I said most, not all. I do think Lockout is overrated, it's a terrible slayer map. Guardian has many areas that are big play spaces, with only two real "street" type areas. There's nothing redeemable about The Cage, what in your mind makes it a good map?

Madness said:
Do we even need compensation? I mean things happen, launches don't go as planned. I don't think we deserve compensation at all and I've been vocal about how disappointed I am with the game. I'd rather they just promise to give due diligence to playlist management, maybe have their professionals who are great at forge, recreate some more maps for the H2A playlist and I'd be happy.

An extension of the beta would be nice either way though. Only thing better than 3 weeks testing Halo 5 is, 4 weeks.
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I think they owe people something, the game is still practically broken a week after release. I have yet to play a MP match with my friends, that's pretty inexcusable for a Halo game.
 
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Kibbles

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I got that Cronus adapter, it was working nice. I just don't like using it because it's a bitch to setup and screws up my audio with this echoing weirdness (though my headset). You have to do some weird shiz like turn on your Xbox One with a wireless controller, sign in, then plug in another Xbox One controller into the CronusMax to get the console to verify the adapter. Then you unplug that controller and plug in your Xbox 360 controller to get it to work. Then kind of boot out the other controller by signing in with the 360 controller and "Choose this person" under your gamertag. Then start up a party chat and you can only talk to people through a party chat because it uses your second wireless controller as a guest to communicate (which you may now plug in to a back USB port so it stays charged and on). You also need a stereo adapter to get the Astros to work on there so eventually when I get it working I have a 100 cables all over the place, it's a mess. The game and bumper jumper feels much better with 360 controller, but is just tiring to setup and with the audio issues I have not really worth it. I don't know why we can't just plug in the USB and optical cables of the Astros like on the PS4. I don't know why we can't just plug in a 360 controller and have it working by default. Microsoft just pisses me off. If it wasn't for Halo I wouldn't have the Xbox One at all.
 
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Ultimen

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Stinkles said:
I am sort of. Sorry we've been testing fixes basically 24/7. Getting there. More info today.

I feel optimisms.

Back later,

And yes, we know we owe you.
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I am not going to be one of the people that praises you or thanks you. This game has been hyped to high heaven since E3, and a week after the release of an essentially broken game is when you 'feel optimisms'? I parted with 80 dollars for this game, I worked hard for that money, and I am happy to give it to a developer that deserves it, but this is unacceptable. Many of the problems were not revealed until people started playing the game. Closer and closer to launch promises started to be broken, and it was revealed that more and more core features would be introduced after release through 'patches'. For those of us that don't like multiplayer, will the single player campaigns' performance be improved? I am sorry, I find this almost comical. We have heard the same song and dance from multiple developers recently. I think you guys bit off more than you could chew. Should have just focused on re-mastering all of Halo 2 in full 1080p, including all the maps (and seriously... 6? really). I don't think I can trust 343i to re-master ODST and Reach, actually, please don't, save us all the hyperbole and hype, I will play them on my 360 where they performed functionally on Day 1.
 
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BeamImpact

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Kibbles said:
I got that Cronus adapter, it was working nice. I just don't like using it because it's a bitch to setup and screws up my audio with this echoing weirdness (though my headset). You have to do some weird shiz like turn on your Xbox One with a wireless controller, sign in, then plug in another Xbox One controller into the CronusMax to get the console to verify the adapter. Then you unplug that controller and plug in your Xbox 360 controller to get it to work. Then kind of boot out the other controller by signing in with the 360 controller and "Choose this person" under your gamertag. Then start up a party chat and you can only talk to people through a party chat because it uses your second wireless controller as a guest to communicate (which you may now plug in to a back USB port so it stays charged and on). You also need a stereo adapter to get the Astros to work on there so eventually when I get it working I have a 100 cables all over the place, it's a mess. The game and bumper jumper feels much better with 360 controller, but is just tiring to setup and with the audio issues I have not really worth it. I don't know why we can't just plug in the USB and optical cables of the Astros like on the PS4. I don't know why we can't just plug in a 360 controller and have it working by default. Microsoft just pisses me off. If it wasn't for Halo I wouldn't have the Xbox One at all.
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man that sucks, audio works perfectly with my adapter, no need to do some weird stuff
the usb audio doesnt work as the Xbox One doesnt pick up usb audio cards unlike the PS4
therefore the mixamp doesnt work as an soundcard like on the PS4 that can source your mic and chatsound
 
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Sordid

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I found the terminal in the first level of H2A and the Halo Channel crashed with the usual, super descriptive "Something went wrong" error. No surprise there, I closed the app and re-opened and it says 'Play Halo' on the H2A terminal as if I haven't found it. Same on the 8.1 app :/

Looks like I'll have to watch them on Youtube.
 
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Madness

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Ultimen said:
I am not going to be one of the people that praises you or thanks you. This game has been hyped to high heaven since E3, and a week after the release of an essentially broken game is when you 'feel optimisms'? I parted with 80 dollars for this game, I worked hard for that money, and I am happy to give it to a developer that deserves it, but this is unacceptable. Many of the problems were not revealed until people started playing the game. Closer and closer to launch promises started to be broken, and it was revealed that more and more core features would be introduced after release through 'patches'. For those of us that don't like multiplayer, will the single player campaigns' performance be improved? I am sorry, I find this almost comical. We have heard the same song and dance from multiple developers recently. I think you guys bit off more than you could chew. Should have just focused on re-mastering all of Halo 2 in full 1080p, including all the maps (and seriously... 6? really). I don't think I can trust 343i to re-master ODST and Reach, actually, please don't, save us all the hyperbole and hype, I will play them on my 360 where they performed functionally on Day 1.
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You don't need to praise or agree with Frank at all, but speak for yourself. The draw of this collection was the 4 games in 1. I don't know if I would've been even hals as excited if it was just H2A. Also, the niggling issues aside with crashes and glitches, these are the best representations of the campaigns we've ever had. Even with the frame drops at times, wonkiness with the cutscenes, give me these versions of the games over the previous ones anytime.

These issues were not planned. You think they wanted to build up hype for a year and have this? No one could have really predicted the problem would be this difficult or widespread.
 
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justsomeguy

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The Jackdog said:
they said the patch was in cert, and then changed it a day later to "patch delayed"

Its not concrete proof but its the most likely scenario. Why wouldn't they just patch matchmaking and patch single player in a different patch? Why suddenly delay a patch ALREADY submitted to MS?
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Getting two releases out is way slower than getting one bigger release out.

Stabilising code for release adds a time overhead. Then it has to go through certification. Issues have to be fixed and patch reissued.

If you're working on two patches, the changes from one will destabilise and delay the other.

Last thing you'd want is two patches planned, each of which keeps causing the other to be delayed.
 
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Twin Tails

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Sordid said:
I found the terminal in the first level of H2A and the Halo Channel crashed with the usual, super descriptive "Something went wrong" error. No surprise there, I closed the app and re-opened and it says 'Play Halo' on the H2A terminal as if I haven't found it. Same on the 8.1 app :/

Looks like I'll have to watch them on Youtube.
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Yeah, the place to watch em, anyone find nightfall on YouTube?
 
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CloudyTuba

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I hope "We owe you" means "One extra H2A map" though I know that's a huge amount of money spent for no return so it isn't likely at all.

What it probably means is that they'll extend the H5 beta, which is good because I have jury duty during the beta.

I'll settle for extended H5 beta plus a dedicated Halo 1 playlist in MCC that is 12-16 players and also lowering the frequency that Lockout variations show up in matchmaking overall.

Seriously, guys. There are over a hundred maps. Let's play them sometime. I feel like out of all 110 I've spent most of my time on the same 5 or 6.
 
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hawk2025

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GavinGT said:
The best compensation for me would be them fulfilling their initial promises to further improve the Halo CE netcode and finally putting up that playlist. I'm worried that things like that will get lost amidst the hundreds of other problems they need to address.
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For me it would be delivering the 60fps experience they promised.

I understand some drops. But the co-op performance is absolutely inexcusable.
 
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Syncytia

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SillyNonsense said:
I hope "We owe you" means "One extra H2A map" though I know that's a huge amount of money spent for no return so it isn't likely at all.

What it probably means is that they'll extend the H5 beta, which is good because I have jury duty during the beta.

I'll settle for extended H5 beta plus a dedicated Halo 1 playlist in MCC that is 12-16 players and also lowering the frequency that Lockout variations show up in matchmaking overall.

Seriously, guys. There are over a hundred maps. Let's play them sometime. I feel like out of all 110 I've spent most of my time on the same 5 or 6.
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They really need to put the veto system back in. The voting system is horrible, especially for those who like objective game types. All anyone picks is Team BRs and we have no other playlist option to choose from. I really want to play Terminal and some other maps I forget the name of, but I have yet to even see them pop up.

That'd be great for you if they extend the beta, and it's about all I expect from them. We owe you in this case really should mean more than extending the H5 beta. It should really be something that adds to the MCC, not another game. Like more H2A maps as you said.
 
Skullface

Skullface

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Is there anyone who still hasn't had a multiplayer experience yet? It's been working surprisingly well over the past couple of days for me. I'm just curious if there are any contradicting experiences.
 
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Booshka

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Customs Browser with Ping displayed, Players, Gametype and Map would be nice. If you can't get your Matchmaking working, let the playerbase find their own gametypes, player count, and connection they want to play.
 
Jessie.Bristol

Jessie.Bristol

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Stinkles said:
I am sort of. Sorry we've been testing fixes basically 24/7. Getting there. More info today.

I feel optimisms.

Back later,

And yes, we know we owe you.
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:), completely missed this post somehow. Cannot wait for the game to be 100% operational. The bottom half of that post was a joke, but if there are more maps in the pipeline (not saying that there are)... well I can't say no that.
 
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Ultimen

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Madness said:
You don't need to praise or agree with Frank at all, but speak for yourself. The draw of this collection was the 4 games in 1. I don't know if I would've been even hals as excited if it was just H2A. Also, the niggling issues aside with crashes and glitches, these are the best representations of the campaigns we've ever had. Even with the frame drops at times, wonkiness with the cutscenes, give me these versions of the games over the previous ones anytime.

These issues were not planned. You think they wanted to build up hype for a year and have this? No one could have really predicted the problem would be this difficult or widespread.
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Nobody could have predicted this... are you serious? Halo multiplayer is what keeps the community going, the fact that it doesn't work properly on day 1 means somebody wasn't doing their job properly. I am sorry, but I refuse to believe that such widespread problems were not known by the development team before it was released. Did they even play test this game? Things like downloading the 'Halo Channel' pop up when I find a terminal in the campaign that completely takes me out of the game. Saved games are screwing up.... I mean, I expected this from some third tier studio, but not from 343i for Halo of all games! This was simply an amateurish effort at best.
 
Skullface

Skullface

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Collingwood said:
Day 9. Still not a single match made game.
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I'm genuinely curious to know if you're doing it right. Please don't take that the wrong way either, obviously none of us should have to "do it right" because that was 343's job. I know people say to generally not back out of a MM session until after 3 minutes, but if I do after a well timed 100-120 seconds and try in a different play list each time, I end up having 60-70% success rate for the next try.

One thing I really miss is playing music and muting my tv while playing H2 multiplayer. Sure, I could now, but I usually put on a playlist (or a burnt mixed disc back in them days) so that I'd have music that specifically helps me concentrate that plays at the right time. It's hard to do that now with the inconsistent match making timing.
 
//ARCANUM

//ARCANUM

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So Xbox live appears to be down for me and all friends. We can connect but can't see friends lists or pins. Anyone else?

Edit- and Xbox support site says everything is just fine.

Double edit- same thing happens on the Xbox smart glass app on my iPhone.
 
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VASPER

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Skullface said:
Is there anyone who still hasn't had a multiplayer experience yet? It's been working surprisingly well over the past couple of days for me. I'm just curious if there are any contradicting experiences.
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I haven't been able to play a real game (balanced teams) in the past 2 days.
 
link1201

link1201

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I'm stuck....its says downloading the latest mm data.....been like this for 5-10 min tried restarting game I get the same message though.
 
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Anion

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paulgandersman said:
So Xbox live appears to be down for me and all friends. We can connect but can't see friends lists or pins. Anyone else?

Edit- and Xbox support site says everything is just fine.

Double edit- same thing happens on the Xbox smart glass app on my iPhone.
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Sometimes the xbox website is a few minutes behind.
 
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Warm Machine

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Man Quarantine Zone looks terrible in anniversary. If 343i is to do anything with this game redo that level sure, Bungie gave them nothing to work with to start but it looks first pass. Gravemind and Uprising are really pretty. There is just a big visual disconnect.

On that topic 343i needs a more focused art direction team for the series/franchise. Not better, more focused. Impossible to tell what is canon and what isn't based on how scattered the series is. Part and parcel of technology moving fast and poly counts ever changing as well as reimagining things. Even stuff like Blur's cinematics happening in one color style and the game in the other shouldn't be happening on a series this important.
 
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