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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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Celestia

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Don't know what's been going on with the multiplayer today but it let my friends and I play as a party of three with relatively few hiccups compared to yesterday. Had a blast.
 
You are "lucky." Lots of people are having the same experience as you (which still isn't good enough) - but many people aren't having as good an experience. Something we hope to fix properly, soon.

I am not posting much for a couple of reasons, one, too busy trying to fix. Two, well past a couple of dozen believable (I don't personally believe them, but better safe than sorry) death threats.

Apologies. We'll keep communicating via Halo Waypoint.

I'm not happy about the state of the game but I hope that at least you are pushing for improvements.

Also, kids throw temper tantrums but be cautious.

I've been connecting to games now but they're mostly half full rooms with unbalanced teams. Baby steps. I suppose.
 

Madness

Member
Can any death threat really be taken seriously?

Better to be safe than sorry. Especially if you live in a nation that has the highest gun ownership rates in the world, and one of the highest murder rates of the developed world as well.

We're conditioned to think it's all joking "I'll kill you bro", but in the era of social media, it gets nauseating and dangerous pretty quick. You never know these days. Anyone who thinks because their hobby isn't exactly how they like it, they have the right to threaten to kill someone, you know they probably have serious issues already.
 

spootime

Member
I figured I'd ask this here.

How do you guys feel about the general direction 343 has taken the lore since taking over? I'm personally not a huge fan. Before halo 4 I really felt like the forerunners had an air of mystique to them. All you really knew about them was that they were immensely powerful and they were wiped out by the flood. After 4 and the various greg bear books they just seem to be humans with better tech. And the precursors(lol) have taken the place of "mysterious, unknowable race."

This really came to a head with me in halo 4 when the forerunner enemies are as powerful as your regular ass elite. Not to mention the gun crates with "forerunner battle rifle" and "forerunner shotgun." IDK just not a huge fan. What do you guys think?
 
I figured I'd ask this here.

How do you guys feel about the general direction 343 has taken the lore since taking over? I'm personally not a huge fan. Before halo 4 I really felt like the forerunners had an air of mystique to them. All you really knew about them was that they were immensely powerful and they were wiped out by the flood. After 4 and the various greg bear books they just seem to be humans with better tech. And the precursors(lol) have taken the place of "mysterious, unknowable race."

This really came to a head with me in halo 4 when the forerunner enemies are as powerful as your regular ass elite. Not to mention the gun crates with "forerunner battle rifle" and "forerunner shotgun." IDK just not a huge fan. What do you guys think?

Yeah I wish they had kept it mysterious.

Would rather have seen a halo 4 with the same enemies that were not forerunner. Just some insane enemies on this crazy planet and master chief. Also whats a didact
 
I remember the Bungie.net forums the first month of Halo 2. I'm shocked no one formed a mob and burnt down Bungie HQ. There were some mad ass people on that forum.
 

Muffdraul

Member
I figured I'd ask this here.

How do you guys feel about the general direction 343 has taken the lore since taking over? I'm personally not a huge fan. Before halo 4 I really felt like the forerunners had an air of mystique to them. All you really knew about them was that they were immensely powerful and they were wiped out by the flood. After 4 and the various greg bear books they just seem to be humans with better tech. And the precursors(lol) have taken the place of "mysterious, unknowable race."

This really came to a head with me in halo 4 when the forerunner enemies are as powerful as your regular ass elite. Not to mention the gun crates with "forerunner battle rifle" and "forerunner shotgun." IDK just not a huge fan. What do you guys think?

I feel pretty much the same way, it was better when the Forerunner were a complete mystery. Personally I think things started to go off track in Halo 3 when the terminals revealed "Oh, so the Forerunners didn't build the Halos, they just inherited them from the Precursors." At least, I thought that's what they were getting at. I figured that explained what Cortana meant in Halo 2 when she said the Forerunners had built newer structures on top of old ones on Halo 05.

And I think it was really callow and namby pamby to bring the Covenant back. I liked the idea that they would be left behind in the original Bungie games, and that Halo 4 was the beginning of a truly new story that would have nothing to do with them. I'm sure 343 decided to bring them back out of fear of alienating "old school Halo fans," but I'm an old school Halo fan and I thought it was a shitty move.
 

Omni

Member
Cross posting but eh. Is literally every part of this stupid game broken? This has really just pissed me off. Okay matchmaking isn't working due to some unforeseen issues. But it's the damn campaign

My legendary progress
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Why is there a gap? I played the playlist from start to finish. Every level on legendary.

Oh I know why. The game thinks I played co-op
What a disaster. Now I have to play this shit again (and probably Shutdown too now that I notice it is only marked off as heroic). egh
 
Cross posting but eh. Is literally every part of this stupid game broken? This has really just pissed me off. Okay matchmaking isn't working due to some unforeseen issues. But it's the damn campaign

My legendary progress

Why is there a gap? I played the playlist from start to finish. Every level on legendary.

Oh I know why. The game thinks I played co-op

What a disaster. Now I have to play this shit again (and probably Shutdown too now that I notice it is only marked off as heroic). egh

Same thing happened to me. Had to replay 3 of the Halo 4 levels because it registered as me playing co-op with myself.
 
Cross posting but eh. Is literally every part of this stupid game broken? This has really just pissed me off. Okay matchmaking isn't working due to some unforeseen issues. But it's the damn campaign

My legendary progress

Why is there a gap? I played the playlist from start to finish. Every level on legendary.

Oh I know why. The game thinks I played co-op

What a disaster. Now I have to play this shit again (and probably Shutdown too now that I notice it is only marked off as heroic). egh

It's happening to me too, I think it only applies to H4 though. I soloed H2 Legendary and didn't have any problems. Now I'm doing H4, and I'm running into the same issue as you. It's counting it as co-op.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Halo 4 definitely seems like the buggiest campaign. Got that co-op bug twice on my Heroic playthrough on Requiem and Infinity. Fortunately no "untracked build" thing bug. Halo 2 I had 1 crash on Delta Halo. Halo 3 was flawless except for Tsavo Highway not counting, but that was when Live and achievements were being weird. I'm 8/10 on CE which has been perfect.
 

Vinc

Member
Halo 1, 2, and 3 are such glorious games. I just started Halo 3 and it just feels like such a triumph in every way. I appreciate it even more now after taking a few steps back. As the first X360 outing, it's really quite impressive.

I didn't like Halo 4 as much when it came out, but maybe I'll have a newfound appreciation for it when I start it.
 

JackHerer

Member
My luck has run out with this game today I guess. All weekend I was getting consistent matches and now I searched for 45 minutes and got nothing. Went and hard reset my xbox and now I can't even boot the game lol. Keep getting "Something went wrong" when I try to start it up.

Guess I need to reboot again..... Last try at this game for tonight otherwise I'll move on to something else.

Edit: Just realized this is not exclusive to MCC. So it must be a problem with my Xbox. I can't start any games at all. Ugh. MCC breaks XB1s confirmed?

I'm kidding
.....
sort of
 
My luck has run out with this game today I guess. All weekend I was getting consistent matches and now I searched for 45 minutes and got nothing. Wen't to reset my xbox and now I can't even boot the game lol. Keep getting "Something went wrong" when I try to start it up.

Guess I need to reboot again..... Last try at this game for tonight otherwise I'll move on to something else.

I had a similar experience with Team games earlier tonight. Couldn't get any team games to work but Anniversary Rumble was fine.
 

J-P

Neo Member
fucking hell. 3 weeks later and i still can't play this game I wasted $60 on. Shit is fucking criminal. Don't tell me they didn't know. Biggest letdown ever.
 

Bsigg12

Member
Everything is being worked on, matchmaking gets priority but other issues are being worked on in tandem. And you'd be surprised how related they are.

I would love to hear what happened and the team's process to fix everything once you guys have this all sorted out.
 

Izayoi

Banned
I didn't like Halo 4 as much when it came out, but maybe I'll have a newfound appreciation for it when I start it.
You won't. Brother and I decided to play all the first levels of each game back-to-back. Did H1, H3, H2A, H4 (in that order). Got to the first encounter after the stupid QTE and turned that shit off ASAP. I soldiered through the first two levels for my Banshee nameplate, but no more. Unreal how badly 343 fucked up.
 

Shrennin

Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Is Xbox Live down for everyone else too? I just tried booting up Halo Reach on 360 and got disconnected.

It's down for me right now. The site didn't say anything about there being issues, but my friends list isn't working and it looks like I'm not even connected to Xbox Live at the moment. :/
 
Well so much for SP working great.

Save/quit in H2A and end up starting the mission back over when I go to resume.

Very nice when trying to complete it on legendary.
 
Cross posting but eh. Is literally every part of this stupid game broken? This has really just pissed me off. Okay matchmaking isn't working due to some unforeseen issues. But it's the damn campaign

My legendary progress

Why is there a gap? I played the playlist from start to finish. Every level on legendary.

Oh I know why. The game thinks I played co-op

What a disaster. Now I have to play this shit again (and probably Shutdown too now that I notice it is only marked off as heroic). egh

same thing happened to me, Last mission only counts as COOP even though i do it on single player (Legen)
 

Sephzilla

Member
You are "lucky." Lots of people are having the same experience as you (which still isn't good enough) - but many people aren't having as good an experience. Something we hope to fix properly, soon.

I am not posting much for a couple of reasons, one, too busy trying to fix. Two, well past a couple of dozen believable (I don't personally believe them, but better safe than sorry) death threats.

Apologies. We'll keep communicating via Halo Waypoint.
Jesus, death threats? Really?

I hate the internet sometimes.
 

Welfare

Member
Cross posting but eh. Is literally every part of this stupid game broken? This has really just pissed me off. Okay matchmaking isn't working due to some unforeseen issues. But it's the damn campaign

My legendary progress

Why is there a gap? I played the playlist from start to finish. Every level on legendary.

Oh I know why. The game thinks I played co-op

What a disaster. Now I have to play this shit again (and probably Shutdown too now that I notice it is only marked off as heroic). egh
Welcome to my world.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Everything is being worked on, matchmaking gets priority but other issues are being worked on in tandem. And you'd be surprised how related they are.

I would love to just sit in 343 and just observe the bug fixing. It would be fascinating to see all the problem solving.
And I want to oogle at the code you guys are using for matchmaking/skill matchups.

...drool

Stay safe from the maniacs Frankie.
 
This is just heartbreakingly fucked. Bummed. Hope they can nail it down soon, and I hope they can do some compensation of some description for the people who have been unable to get the proper experience.

And, stay safe from the nutters Frankie, yep.
 

Sai

Member
I kind of hope that 343i has the time after this to document what exactly went wrong, and how they went about fixing it.

Probably won't happen, but I am curious.

Well so much for SP working great.

Save/quit in H2A and end up starting the mission back over when I go to resume.

Very nice when trying to complete it on legendary.
Unless you want to play some multiplayer, at this point, you shouldn't save 'n quit.

I've been pausing the game and turning the Xbox One off via long press of the home button... Well, I guess it works more like a sleeping state. Anyways, you can continue your campaign progress that way.
 
You are "lucky." Lots of people are having the same experience as you (which still isn't good enough) - but many people aren't having as good an experience. Something we hope to fix properly, soon.

I am not posting much for a couple of reasons, one, too busy trying to fix. Two, well past a couple of dozen believable (I don't personally believe them, but better safe than sorry) death threats.

Apologies. We'll keep communicating via Halo Waypoint.

That is quite ridiculous. Nobody should be issuing death threats, period, especially over a video game. I am confident the game will be patched up in working order soon enough, just finished FarCry 4 today.
 

gunner13

Neo Member
I kind of hope that 343i has the time after this to document what exactly went wrong, and how they went about fixing it.

Probably won't happen, but I am curious.

I'm sure it will go something like this...
THE BULLET POINT EXCUSE CHART FOR ONLINE ISSUES IN GAMES:
-We were overwhelmed by so many people buying our game, and we couldn't anticipate how enthusiastic our fan base is in having this much stress on our online infrastructure.
-We are pushing the boundaries of technology and sometimes you can't anticipate how it will play out in the real world til it happens.
-We are just upset/frustrated as you the fans are, as we love to play the game online too.
-We have learned a lot from this experience, and will use what we learned to build a better game next time (Halo 5)
-We appreciate the criticism as it pushes us farther to make a better game.
 

Hubble

Member
I figured I'd ask this here.

How do you guys feel about the general direction 343 has taken the lore since taking over? I'm personally not a huge fan. Before halo 4 I really felt like the forerunners had an air of mystique to them. All you really knew about them was that they were immensely powerful and they were wiped out by the flood. After 4 and the various greg bear books they just seem to be humans with better tech. And the precursors(lol) have taken the place of "mysterious, unknowable race."

This really came to a head with me in halo 4 when the forerunner enemies are as powerful as your regular ass elite. Not to mention the gun crates with "forerunner battle rifle" and "forerunner shotgun." IDK just not a huge fan. What do you guys think?

Agree. With this, 343 has lessened the lore of Halo. It's crazy but I honestly think they did almost everything wrong with Halo 4.
 
Update if anyone is interested:

12.1 2:45 PM Update

The team continues development and testing of upcoming content updates, the next of which will specifically make improvements to the matchmaking system and flow. This particular update is on track for delivery this week. We will provide more details on the exact ETA, included fixes, and additional upcoming content updates in the near future. Please stay tuned to this thread for more details.
 

Haines

Banned
Is there any word on a fix to the 15 fps I get in a warthog on halo anniversary.

Can't play that cuz its fucking horrible fps and can't play online cuz it's broke

This is a fucking joke for howany weeks now
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Is there any word on a fix to the 15 fps I get in a warthog on halo anniversary.

Can't play that cuz its fucking horrible fps and can't play online cuz it's broke

This is a fucking joke for howany weeks now

I don't think any SP stuff is coming until MP atleast works fine. Only real solution for that is play it on the original graphics.
 
I've been pausing the game and turning the Xbox One off via long press of the home button... Well, I guess it works more like a sleeping state. Anyways, you can continue your campaign progress that way.

Thanks, I'll be doing the same in the future. Odd that the feature that basically says you can start off where you leave doesn't let you do that.
 

PooBone

Member
Sure (though I don't know about downgraded graphics, I still think Halo 2 looks great), but those are things that never ruined the campaign for me, personally.

It was more that those higher memory requirements for the lighting and textures they wanted to put in place (which ultimately didn't improve much imo) that led to restricted, tighter, more close quarters level design. AND I personally think, as a result, we wound up with corridors that would have been huge open valleys in Halo CE. And don't get me started on the elevator rides.
 

Random17

Member
In regards to the lore; Bungie's last installment into the franchise was Halo:Reach, so purely in terms of continuity 343i wins by default. Cryptum and Silentium are some of the best Halo novels. Some of the extraneous stuff like the Terminals have been very good, but like Bungie before them, plenty of terrible EU to go with it, e.g. Spartan Ops, Escalation.


Oh and 2014 Bungie released Destiny, while Joe Staten left. Doesn't instill much confidence in the developer.
 
I got death threats for grenade nerf before the first Halo 2 TU. This hardly surprises me. But it's America. So you have to at least consider the reality.

Un-fucking-believable.

I'm not happy with how things have panned out so far, but at the very worst I would take your mother out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again.
 
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