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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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Akai__

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Just a reminder, today is the last episode of Halo: Nightfall. I'm really curious how it will end, because I feel like it just started to get really interesting.

It also introduced so many unnecessary mechanics and other stuff, like the mech walkers which were just the worst. It's certainly not a bad game, it's just not a great Halo game.

Can we please stop saying this? It's not an other game, it's a Halo game. This excuse is lame...
 

Sephzilla

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Can we please stop saying this? It's not an other game, it's a Halo game. This excuse is lame...

I think it's a perfectly fine reasoning. Compared to shooters in general it's pretty solid but it just doesn't hold up well to the other games in the franchise.
 

Impala26

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Truth, I think Composer is in my top 5 favorite missions from all the games.

Dat ending doe...
Seriously, probably one of most emotional moments for me across all Halo games. Watching MC/Cortana actualy FAIL and all those people die* was a powerful moment.

I miss CE grenade throws. Spartans were like Brett Favre in robot suits.

As they should. The degree to which both throw distance and AoE of Grenades from CE->2 were nerfed is absolutely PAINFUL.
 

mike4001_

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lol

"Wanted" to play HALO CE - Mission 10 with a friend in coop.

He hosted, I was lagging as hell with a lag of about 0,5 sek.

Then 10 min in the game after several checkpoints we both die.

I respawned at the beginning of the level only able to turn but not move.

Next try => In about 2-3 patches which are campaign related ...
 

Sephzilla

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This collection puts it into perspective how slow and watered down the gameplay became after CE.

PAINFUL is the definitely an apt description of those feels.

I honestly think Halo 2 holds up right next to CE. But the downgrade of grenades and throwing distance is definitely the one step down that is there.
 
Dat ending doe...
Seriously, probably one of most emotional moments for me across all Halo games. Watching MC/Cortana actualy FAIL and all those people die* was a powerful moment.



As they should. The degree to which both throw distance and AoE of Grenades from CE->2 were nerfed is absolutely PAINFUL.

The throw distance was great, but the CE nades are like goddamn nukes with the AoE.

Not that I mind, I still think H1 MP is my favorite, but the nade AOE is nuts, and the rampant availability of them adds to the madness.

Something inbetween H2 and CE would've been great.
 

Impala26

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The throw distance was great, but the CE nades are like goddamn nukes with the AoE.

Not that I mind, I still think H1 MP is my favorite, but the nade AOE is nuts, and the rampant availability of them adds to the madness.

Something inbetween H2 and CE would've been great.

Oh no, I agree some adjustment was needed, but I think the AoE needed to be reduced rather than the throw distance. Smaller inventory of grenades could have been an option as well.
 

Sai

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This collection puts it into perspective how slow and watered down the gameplay became after CE.

PAINFUL is the definitely an apt description of those feels.
Slower, definitely. Halo 2 felt "numb" to me... Everything from the movement, way the weapons handled, the arc of the grenades thrown, gave me that impression. It's hard for me to look back on Halo 2 as fondly as others do because of that. A lot of folks hail it as the best Halo's ever been, but I'd only say that as far as the selection of maps is concerned.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
So I have played Multiplayer all day, and I think matchmaking is at acceptable point now. Only downside is after every match you get thrown back to the playlist screen.
 
I haven't really been following the Master Chief Collection bug fiasco, but if I just want to play the campaigns I should be good right? I should be getting an xbox one pretty soon.
 

jem0208

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I haven't really been following the Master Chief Collection bug fiasco, but if I just want to play the campaigns I should be good right? I should be getting an xbox one pretty soon.
For the most part you should be.


There are some bugs but nothing really major, the worst is that the checkpoint data can get deleted meaning if you quit out of a level some of the time you will have to start it again from the start.

There's also a bug in H2A where you will load into a black screen but the game is still running (sound etc.) but that can be fixed by just changing the graphics to classic and back.

I can't think of any other major bugs that I encountered.
 
Slower, definitely. Halo 2 felt "numb" to me... Everything from the movement, way the weapons handled, the arc of the grenades thrown, gave me that impression. It's hard for me to look back on Halo 2 as fondly as others do because of that. A lot of folks hail it as the best Halo's ever been, but I'd only say that as far as the selection of maps is concerned.

I played halo CEA a couple years back and always regarded it as the best in the series. I haven't played halo 2 since the original launch and I didn't enjoy it that much back then. However replaying them back to back (and it may be due to the anniversary treatment) I'm amazed by how much more I'm enjoying 2. The BR is an amazing weapon, the levels have more variety, the brutes are a nice change of pace at the back end, the levels cut out a lot of the repetition from the first and most importantly is how much better the story is.

I think I was so put off with being forced to be the arbiter combined with the ridiculous expectations from E3 that I was a bit sour after playing it.
 
Ignore this, I'm just pretty unhappy and need to vent. Two patches ago everything seemed much better, but this seems much worse after the most recent one. How is that even possible? BTB is broken again, TS is much slower, someone (sometimes me!) is crashing or dc'ing at the start of nearly every match making the balanced teams (good job guys! took you a month to fix something so basic it should have never been broken!) moot. Even though it's by design, why can't I continue on with the same group of people anymore? Why make me restart the search from the beginning? How is that faster? Get the Halo 4 and CE playlists up right now. Just do it RIGHT NOW. Someone is always immediately quitting because they don't get the game they want, let those people be where they want to be. Fix the godawful map weighting and SMG starts. Put a stop to this horrific 5v5 nonsense. These can easily be fixed RIGHT THIS SECOND without any kind of client side patch. I realize matchmaking is a total disaster and that's top priority, but there's no point in fixing matchmaking if you're just getting us into crappy unfun games faster.

Have they even said anything about eventually adding full armor customization? In game emblems? How hard would it have fucking been to have individual game emblems instead of this stupid universal one that the old games obviously can't support? Lazy. Just fucking lazy. Halo deserved better than this lazy port.

It breaks my heart that this is so terrible. I remember just messing around for hours on Sidewinder splitscreen with friends. Doing all the weird physics tricks. Changing seats in the warthog on the move, sliding up the base wall in Blood Gulch. I remember sitting in the tech lab in high school, reading the weekly updates for Halo 2, over and over. Those first Lockout bullshots were so amazing. I guess Microsoft got what they wanted. They pandered to suckers like me and got an Xbox One into our houses, it didn't matter to them if they gave us a working product or not. I'll give them one more patch to make this thing function with even just some semblance of consistency before I try for a refund. Hell, if they just gave me a to-do list of shit they're going to fix at some point in the future I'd tough it out.
 

Skullface

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You know what I miss? Weapon type games, such as swords, snipers, and not so much rockets. Shotties was the balls. I've had one sniper game on H2 colossus. It sure would be nice to have swords (no radar)


Edit: Was Prisoner always hated by CE fans? That was my go to map with my friends growing up. I always see zero votes (accept for mine) with CE when it comes up.
 
If you have not done this yet, switch your xbox power mode to Energy Saving under Power and Startup in Settings. Then completely turn off your Xbox One and turn it back on. (full power cycle) This clears your Xbox's cache and it has helped many people in finding games after the patch if the patch stopped games from coming in for you.
 

Madness

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Turns out I suck at Midship now. Weird.

It's the poor trueskill/ranking I think. One time I was put with fairly good teammates early on in launch and we destroyed the other team. While yesterday, I got my ass handed to me as did the rest of the team by the other group. It's because I've played it so few times as well since launch, it takes a while to get back into all the maps.
 
H2A and H3 are the only good multiplayers in my opinion. Halo CE and 2 in their original forms are just too dated and archaic.

Halo 4 is just Halo 4.

I agree. I can't think about a better word to describe CE than "rough." Animations, spawns, weapons, hit boxes, sound design; it's all just uninspiring and not fun. This is coming from someone who use to LAN two Xboxes to play with 8 people. I used to run tunnel service through Gamespy. The game just hasn't aged well.

EDIT: I need to add the caveat that it's still, arguably, one of the most superb old school shooters to pick up and play. It's up there with Quake and UT. However, it's very hard to swap from H2A or H3 to CE.
 

Fuchsdh

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You know what I miss? Weapon type games, such as swords, snipers, and not so much rockets. Shotties was the balls. I've had one sniper game on H2 colossus. It sure would be nice to have swords (no radar)


Edit: Was Prisoner always hated by CE fans? That was my go to map with my friends growing up. I always see zero votes (accept for mine) with CE when it comes up.

Prisoner is a pretty bad map, because once you're on top you get to rain down 3SK on the poor saps below, because the spawns are so easy to predict. The CEA remake as Penance at least offered alternate routes up so the snipers weren't complete power positions.
 

Sephzilla

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1 Flag CTF on Headlong just lost a vote to Big Team Slayer on Vortex....

This is a worse crime than any of 343's MCC mistakes as far as I'm concerned.
 

RoKKeR

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A new feature in Halo CE campaign would be some serious ghosting/stuttering when viewing your co-op buddy after you've died, as well as a looping plasma pistol sound glitch.
 
Getting some achievements for this I unlocked back at launch randomly popping. Was confused when my XB1 had been idle for 10-15 minutes~ and suddenly popped up with an achievement, then another a few minutes later, haha.
 

clav

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Still haven't found a single game with the latest update.

Before I was able to play games.

If you have not done this yet, switch your xbox power mode to Energy Saving under Power and Startup in Settings. Then completely turn off your Xbox One and turn it back on. (full power cycle) This clears your Xbox's cache and it has helped many people in finding games after the patch if the patch stopped games from coming in for you.

Looks like I have to start doing this again.

Was nice to see TitanFall already ready to go on instant start up.
 
Getting some achievements for this I unlocked back at launch randomly popping. Was confused when my XB1 had been idle for 10-15 minutes~ and suddenly popped up with an achievement, then another a few minutes later, haha.
Lol same happened to me. A locked achievement just popped when I was watching The Newsroom on HBO Go. I was confused for a second.
 
1 Flag CTF on Headlong just lost a vote to Big Team Slayer on Vortex....

This is a worse crime than any of 343's MCC mistakes as far as I'm concerned.

That's akin to my first two games in MM, I nearly cried no one voted for OBJ games. The objective only playlist can't get here soon enough.
 

Celestia

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Just deranked from a 10 to a 4? Lol at this point, I'm not even mad anymore. Just disappointed. So very, truly disappointed. Can't accept invites from friends either.
 
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