ChorizoPicozo
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It is so bad that Phil is putting all their games on PlayStation. Phil knows greatness and recognizes that PlayStation is King. Long live the King
Has the PS5 already cemented itself as the worst Playstation generation in history?
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Topher
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Every generation, PlayStation is relying on third party games. Third party games consistently dominate the sales charts every year. Xbox games on PlayStation are no different.
If we are going to talk about how good/bad this generation is for PS then it really needs to be about first party games.
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LiquidMetal14
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I voted for PS5 but I have a strong intuition that they are making major gains next generation.
I collect VHS tapes
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I think first party games have been a much bigger problem for Sony. I've been pretty happy with first party games from MS and Nintendo. Not so much Sony.
Topher
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I've been saying for some time myself. When we do get PS games, they are generally pretty awesome (outside the gaas shit), but they are just too spread out.
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Deerock71
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To bring it all into focus, it should be compared to Nintendo's first party offerings, too; Nintendo's been out in the wilderness against the competition's 3rd party offerings, but all the stars are starting to align on the Switch 2.
reinking
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After years of being critical of Sony "moneyhatting" exclusives, you would think people would be well aware of Sony's reliance on third party games. First party, yes, Sony has soiled the bed as of late.
David B
An Idiot
I've also been with all the PlayStation consoles. But now it's just I don't have any more room for consoles and games anymore. So my entire future of gaming is on PC now.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
Identifies as young
Nintendo is going to thrive because they don't give a shit about chasing market trends and creating the next cool gaas craze. They know who they are.
Sony first party is about as dull as I can ever remember. Sony exerts zero effort in generating excitement about Playstation. Probably because they don't need to.
reinking
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We have Intergalactic to look forward to.
kaizenkko
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Sadly, I have to agree with this. The brand is so strong these days that it just doesn't matter. Sony could stop developing first-party games right now, and people would still keep buying their consoles. Coincidentally, this is kind of the same story with Steam.
Topher
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We have Intergalactic to look forward to.
The question is will we play it on PS5 or PS6. lol
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
We have Intergalactic to look forward to.
kaizenkko
Member
Probably both.
This is probably it. People buy Nintendo consoles mainly to play Nintendo games. Everything else is a bonus. People buy PS consoles to play everything. Sony produced games are a bonus.
A PS console without any Sony games is still really compelling for the mass market. A Nintendo console without Nintendo games is just a paperweight.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Joke post?
You actually think Xbox games on PS consoles is increasing PS hardware numbers? lmao
Kilau
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PS Nein
Topher
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Yeah.....definitely. I can cry all I want but I'm drowned out by the multitudes who will buy PlayStation because it has become the default console for the heavy hitter third party games that PS/Xbox gamers want to play. Nintendo does their own thing and that gives them a hell of a lot of freedom.
ShadyAcshuns
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Xbox will redeem the library.
HeisenbergFX4
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How many copies does Halo sell on PS?
Does it beat some of the recent PS5 exclusives?
Does it beat some of the recent PS5 exclusives?
Wait, you mean game platforms rely on game sales in order to make money? Mind blown/sIt's the only generation where they're desperately relying on Xbox for games
Xbox games consistently make the top of PS5 sales charts
I'm sure Halo will set records as well
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
Identifies as young
Four online player coop. I think it will do extremely well
I collect VHS tapes
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Yes, top 3 games on ps5 being Xbox titles is indeed a joke. I agree.
Forza alone absolutely sold consoles. As will Flight Simulator.
nial
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They are not too spread out, people will just decide to focus on things that actually appeal to them, and that's okay.
Based on your posts, I'm sure you got Ghost of Yotei, Death Stranding 2 and Astro Bot. But have you gotten all their other stuff released since the past year like Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, Until Dawn, Lego Horizon Adventures, Lost Soul Aside or MLB The Show 24-25? Probably not.
Kacho
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I expect it to sell better than a lot of games because of the novelty of having Halo on PlayStation. It'll be one of the top selling games next year like Oblivion this year.
kazuyamishima
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kazuyamishima
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I dunno man, Minecraft and Skyrim oblivion were already big on PS consoles before MS buying ABK.It's the only generation where they're desperately relying on Xbox for games
Xbox games consistently make the top of PS5 sales charts
I'm sure Halo will set records as well
Heck, I don't have exact numbers but I'm not afraid to say that Minecraft on switch for example has sold more units than games like Mario Bros Wonder and others.
Topher
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As I've said in the past, I buy PlayStation for the first party studio games. So yes, that's what appeals to me. And yeah, the games that appeal to me are too spread out. Just the way I see it.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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Ha! So true. PS6 will be PS5.5 in that it'll be cross gen hell but worse.
Pop
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More than what it will do on Xbox
MCC could have been a killer holiday title on PS5
Tiago Rodrigues
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So Xbox games don't do that much for Xbox hardware....but they do for Playstation hardware sales? lol
Diego Brasil
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The PS5 the best console Playstation
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nial
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Nah, it's more of a matter of specific taste. Lego Horizon and MLB are developed by internal studios as well, so well?
Again, nothing wrong with that, I just wish it wasn't being delivered as a very general statement of first-party releases being "too spread out", which is not true.
Topher
Identifies as young
It isn't a general statement. I agreed with you that this is about games that "appeals to me".
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Umm, yes?
You don't think Sony's former biggest competition folding and going third party is convincing anyone to buy PS hardware?
Are you joking?
Not_A-Cop_Maybe
Member
It absolutely will.
OG Halo's Campaign wipes the floor with any FPS campaign in the last 10-15 years alone. The only one i would say in that same timespan would be Titanfall 2's story. If it gets priced the same as a Hell Divers game or something lower than a full price SKU, it should definitely move numbers. Whether MS does that is a different story.
That being said, if you are a long time PS user who has never played Halo or an xbox game, you've been missing out for years. Regardless of die hard og halo purists and what not, every Halo game has been a fantastic package for value and long term play. The worst Halo game is still a great game, even if its not a good "Halo" game.
Even with all of Sony's success, they have yet to remotely come close with creating a FPS game as good as Halo. Killzone and Resistance could and should have been contenders but Sony /Guerrilla/ Insomniac drove those franchises straight into the ground. Luckily they had better IP's to make or work with since then.
Also, with no disrespect to Sony's never ending/always expanding list of Third person, open - tortured world and collapse of society IP's and so many Souls like games, a straight forward OG inspired game might be what the market needs.
Besides, its another remake on the remake-station. for sure it'll sell -
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I collect VHS tapes
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Do you think those gamers just disappear? A huge portion buy PlayStations or move to PC, where they can increasingly play Xbox games
You really don't get this? You're not even worth engaging with my dude
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Tiago Rodrigues
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I'm saying that people aren't buying PS5 because of "Xbox games". Activision, Bethesda, etc have mostly always been on PS5. What Xbox games do you guys think people are buying PS5 for? COD? It never left Sony consoles. What games is Sony now getting that they weren't before? Forza, Halo, Gears, etc right? And you guys think these IPs are...bringing console sales to Sony? Yeah the games are selling but because they have another audience to be sold to. Not that people are rushing in to buy Playstations to play these. Do we have data on that? If people weren't rushing in to buy Xbox consoles to play those why would they do that now with PlayStation?
Mortisfacio
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With 1200 votes, 2/3 agree PS5 is the worst gen. Not having a single "You need to buy a PS5 for X, Y or Z title" will do that.
IMO the last one was Bloodborne in 2015. When I think to every notable game I'll remember this "Gen" for, it's all 3rd party.
IMO the last one was Bloodborne in 2015. When I think to every notable game I'll remember this "Gen" for, it's all 3rd party.
CobraAB
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PS2 at the top for me.
PS1, PS3 and PS4 are very close IMO. They can go in any order. Pretty tight to me.
Then there is a bit of a gulf to the PS5 though the generation is of course not over.
He'll, I was about 8 years old when fucking Pobg came out si I have basically seen it all.
Started off as an Atari guy, then a Sea gut, then a Playststion. I have one two many systems over the years but my real focus was and is on those 3 brands.
PS1, PS3 and PS4 are very close IMO. They can go in any order. Pretty tight to me.
Then there is a bit of a gulf to the PS5 though the generation is of course not over.
He'll, I was about 8 years old when fucking Pobg came out si I have basically seen it all.
Started off as an Atari guy, then a Sea gut, then a Playststion. I have one two many systems over the years but my real focus was and is on those 3 brands.
Physiognomonics
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The best hardware ever, the worst 1st party software lineup ever.
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