why does linked stars exist
who thought it was a good idea
Keep on pouring the salt, Sega.
My reaction when I first played "MMORPG addict's anthem" was intense pain and crying while questioning myself "really Sega? Really?".
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Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd |OT| I'll Miku-Miku GAF (For Reals)
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My reaction when I first played "MMORPG addict's anthem" was intense pain and crying while questioning myself "really Sega? Really?".
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Having played World is Mine so much in PD and PD2nd I got Excellent my first try on the song. lol I'm glad to see it back in this though! I'm looking forward to grabbing Rollingirl later too.
Finally got around to buying this today and these are pretty much my thoughts. Really not liking them or seeing the point really.
There doesn't seem to be any way to predict how they're going to behave on a first play through of any given song so you just have to kind of wing it and then memorise how quickly/slowly it moves between targets for any later play throughs.
R_thanatos
Member
i don't hate linked stars ..
Double stars can however die in a fire for all i care.
THIS IS ALL
Double stars can however die in a fire for all i care.
THIS IS ALL
The Bankslammer
Member
oh nooooo are there really some unlockables that require playing on easy
maaaaan i don't wanna
maaaaan i don't wanna
Remembrance
Member
My solution so far is to look away from the linked stars and follow the music - it seems designed to be more confusing when you're looking at it.
Yep, and it sucks. I hate the "play each difficulty once" unlock conditions, but oh well. Got to get all those attachments!
Following the music is really all you can do for the linked star notes, but that also requires you to know the song and know what rhythm it's following. It gets especially confusing on some of them when you're unlocking the higher difficulties, since the linked star notes might be following a faster beat on higher difficulties than they were on easier difficulties. Overall, I feel the linked notes are really poorly thought out since they're incredibly inconsistent with timing in relation to spacing just so they can make pictures.
At least that one is easy to clear, and you can use challenge items to make it more difficult. The "Score X,X00,000 points across all playthroughs" unlock condition is a major PITA to do. It's still nothing compared to the unlock conditions for all the items in "I'll Miku-miku you", though...
Also, damn, I hate with a passion how they modified the gift system. Getting the last gift event that I'm missing is going to suck (The good Meiko sketch)
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
Where did you hear about this? I'm curious.
MagnoSauce
Member
I wonder if this game will come to be known as a black sheep of the series. Lots of repeats from the PSP games, complaints of a less memorable tracklist than 1st, the star beats getting pretty much universal criticism, much more difficult normal setting making it less accessible, and beatmaps that are a lot tricker and less "linear" than the previous entries. Still a fantastic game by pretty much any standard, but there's a lot that can be improved in 3rd, whose localization is pretty inevitable considering the reports of higher-than-expected demand for 2nd. I'm eager for the future of this series, even though imo it's destined to suffer burn-out before long.
R_thanatos
Member
Well Diva 2nd also had lots of repeats from the very first diva game and they managed fine ( it was also the one where they introduced double notes ) so i'm not worried
The question is where will they go from there ? Especially considering their flow of dlc ²and the track list because Those Pv aren't going to make themselves.
I predict a F3rd game that will be a "supercharged version" of f2nd ( like extend was regarding to 2nd ) , hopefully for ps4 too.
Hopefully , if that happens all issues regarding sharing and broadcast will be dealt with properly by SEGA//CRYPTON
The question is where will they go from there ? Especially considering their flow of dlc ²and the track list because Those Pv aren't going to make themselves.
I predict a F3rd game that will be a "supercharged version" of f2nd ( like extend was regarding to 2nd ) , hopefully for ps4 too.
Hopefully , if that happens all issues regarding sharing and broadcast will be dealt with properly by SEGA//CRYPTON
StarCreator
Member
I'm having difficulty finding the source but I'm certain it has been said the song and costume club packs do not have expiration dates.
EDIT: Found it.
NullPointer said:
Remembrance
Member
You could always get the $50 PSN cards that are on eBay right now for $40 and use it towards that.
crabhammer
Member
Ok mikugaf, I need some advice. I played a few songs of PDF2 and really liked it, but decided I wanted to go back to the first game and try to do some of the extreme tracks. I've got an E at least on all tracks on hard, but christ some of the inputs in extreme are so fast that I can barely fathom pulling it off.
Specifically quick segments like the sets of three triangles here:
Am I missing something? Do I just need to get good?
Specifically quick segments like the sets of three triangles here:
Am I missing something? Do I just need to get good?
Using the face buttons in alternation with the arrows on the d-pad is the key.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Alternate between the D-Pad AND the face buttons.
You'll need it on PDF 2nd's Extreme songs a lot more.
You'll need it on PDF 2nd's Extreme songs a lot more.
Use the d-pad to alternate between it and the buttons. Up is triangle, left is square, right is O and down is X.
Edit: I suppose you mean f/F and not the first PSP game which didn't have d-pad support.
It was just a random GameFAQ's post. Not quite a reputable source, but I figured it was worth checking in case.
Looks like it's here to stay? Sounds good.
On the topic of how to hit notes, I've started holding one button in arrow strings. Up 'til now I would hit both buttons rapidly for numerous arrows. It feels like some hack, lol. Has to be better on the button strain...
crabhammer
Member
Welp, that's a hell of a game changer. It makes so much sense I can't believe I didn't think to do that on my own haha.
Eventually you'll start seeing every note group as patterns rather than buttons. It makes songs a lot more rewarding and turns some beatmaps you may have found spammy to be pretty great.
LowParry
Member
I find myself rather curious about getting the arcade controller for this game. But that price just kills me. Either way, glad people are enjoying the game. The song selection is more enjoyable in F2 to me. Slowly starting to lean into Extreme play but Hard is my go to fun play time. Hopefully sales justify a 3rd one for next gen consoles.
StarCreator
Member
It's worth noting doing this has a scoring penalty that was introduced in f/F (in that you forgo a visible 200 pt bonus for doing a double without holding one of the two inputs beforehand). No effect on clear points though, of course.
To be honest that method is the only way I can do those arrow strings. I am simply not fast enough.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Platinumed. I don't complain much about silly stuff in video games, but the Diva Room and some of the gift giving-event making stuff is just silly.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Oh my god, yes! When they put up that poll for which songs you wanted to return in 2nd I was voting Rolling Girl every single day. The note pattern looks great too, maybe I can make up for my failure to perfect that song on Extend by doing it here.
My man.
marimorimo
Member
YES. I was not a fan of Meiko in PDF/f, but her voice is easily the best in Break it, Break it. Sounds so natural.
It's a testament to how much I like her song that I got Excellent on it on Extreme, but can't even get "Great" on some other songs on the same/lesser difficulty ._.
My favorite song is from PDF2nd is still Cantarella though
Are the lyrics translated in the English version (I only have the JP releases)? The original lyrics are kinda...sensual.YES. I was not a fan of Meiko in PDF/f, but her voice is easily the best in Break it, Break it. Sounds so natural.
It's a testament to how much I like her song that I got Excellent on it on Extreme, but can't even get "Great" on some other songs on the same/lesser difficulty ._.
My favorite song is from PDF2nd is still Cantarella though
Yep, only thing that didn't get translated was Kagerou Days because licensing issues.
I'm just missing the last trophy (the one for having all the Diva Room items), and I agree 100% with you. Getting the platinum in the last game was enjoyable. Here, not so much...
Oh, and I managed to raise my rank in Kagerou Daze extreme o/
Went from standard to Excellent. Now to do the same on This is the Happiness and Peace of Mind Comittee...
where did you buy it? I need to knowww.
marimorimo
Member
Ahh.. thanks for the link
Was super curious as how they would translate it.As I thought, Cantarella is nigh untranslate-able. It has too many double entendres to convey the proper meaning in English.
So far This is the Happiness and Peace of Mind Comittee is my favourite song, love the bait and switch at the beginning.
Actually playing the game is a nightmare though, I was never especially good at f but normal on f 2nd is just insane and when I feel like I've finally got hold of it the pattern goes full john fucking madden on me. Which is impressive when I only need to worry about 2 buttons.
Actually playing the game is a nightmare though, I was never especially good at f but normal on f 2nd is just insane and when I feel like I've finally got hold of it the pattern goes full john fucking madden on me. Which is impressive when I only need to worry about 2 buttons.
Part of that, too, is just that the track or particular rhythm that normal is following isn't always readily apparent. There are certain songs, especially, where the patterns seem like absolute nonsense just because it doesn't follow the song very well in exchange for having less notes to hit (Clockwork Clown is really awful about this).
Typically, no.
That's a shame - doesn't seem like a good idea to change gender for a song then!
I totally hate Clockwork Clown, the timing is just wrong, period.
StarCreator
Member
For everyone who has purchased the game, be sure to fill out this survey: http://www.sega.com/pdf2survey/
(Psst: if you hate linked stars as much as I do, you should totally leave feedback and ratings reflecting that!)
That hasn't stopped anyone from doing it anyway! My convention save has nearly every song set to feature a shirtless Len.
(Psst: if you hate linked stars as much as I do, you should totally leave feedback and ratings reflecting that!)
That hasn't stopped anyone from doing it anyway! My convention save has nearly every song set to feature a shirtless Len.
The Bankslammer
Member
I've never tried it myself, but while you can't do it in the Project Diva games, I believe the Project Mirai games have some songs that switch to a different vocal track if you use different characters.