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[TheContact]

Rank 20 is very easy to hit, I'm starting to have problems around rank 13 though, everyone I play against has at least 2 legendaries and I have none

 

[Card Boy]

It needs to get rid of the RNG effect cards like multi-shot and arcane missiles. Especially when they work against stealth, which is "holy shit" levels of dumb.

At least Mad Bomber's RNGtardedness has a chance of backfiring on you.

Fix the RNG of the booster packs aswell lol.

 

[Hydranockz]

The expansion's set of cards should mess up the meta for a good chunk of time anyway, hopefully.

 

[Card Boy]

sounds good to me. Sick of seeing the same shit every match.

 

[RumblingRosco]

It needs to get rid of the RNG effect cards like multi-shot and arcane missiles. Especially when they work against stealth, which is "holy shit" levels of dumb.

At least Mad Bomber's RNGtardedness has a chance of backfiring on you.

I get the feeling Blizzard likes the RNG. I don't see it ever going away or even being reduced.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Are the servers down?

 

[hellmonkey]

So I tries this last night, mostly for the free-ish WoW mount after 3 wins. I went like 5 wins and 10 loses or so. Ive never played a TCG before. Are there any tips or suggestions for some casual gameplay?

 

[Card Boy]

There should be naughts and crosses at the start of each match to get rid the who goes first RNG.

or rock paper scissors.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Hearthstone servers fucked?

 

[MrCompletely]

guess im not the only one who cant log in

 

[doctordoak]

Hearthstone servers fucked?

Seems that way currently.

 

[ImLibo]

I literally won a match and was kicked off the servers,does that still count as a win?

 

[Cystm]

I literally won a match and was kicked off the servers,does that still count as a win?

We'll find out soon enough.

 

[dk_]

Scheduled maintenance guys!

 

[IceMarker]

Good thing I was only making some decks when it went down, just lost and then won 2 on my 'Crystal Maiden' deck.

 

[ilikesanta]

This game needs a fuckload more cards, effects and gimmicks so we don't have the same discussions about everything or see the same thing in game all the time.

Playing a number of drafts of MtG , I was shocked to find out that there is only 30 new cards coming out in the next update. I'm sure they get stuff cranking eventually.

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What they just updated this morning!

 

[iNvid02]

 

[Phreaker]

Scheduled maintenance guys!

really?

 

[Sails]

This is unacceptable. I want to play my free game

 

[arimanius]

This made me laugh when I got it.

 

[inky]

Scheduled? Does it still count if you "schedule" it after you take the servers down? I saw no such notice before I started playing.

 

[Phreaker]

This made me laugh when I got it.

Me too, also made me take a screenshot:

I too had just won a match, beat a Zoo/Lock with my Watcher/Druid when it said I was disconnected.

 

[Svafnir]

That's a different time frame.

 

[Card Boy]

Playing a number of drafts of MtG , I was shocked to find out that there is only 30 new cards coming out in the next update. I'm sure they get stuff cranking eventually.

We have to remember

• Each card as graphical effects when they are played
• Each card as sound effects when they are played
• Artwork has to be made
• Golden animated versions need to be made
• They need to be programmed
• The need to be beta tested

Having said that Scrolls has similar complexity when they make cards but they release even more than Blizzard.

 

[IceMarker]

This is unacceptable. I want to play my free game

Haven't paid a dime yet myself!

If I hit the lottery or something I'll absolutely drop money on that 40 pack.

 

[TheContact]

We have to remember

• Each card as graphical effects when they are played
• Each card as sound effects when they are played
• Artwork has to be made
• Golden animated versions need to be made
• They need to be programmed
• The need to be beta tested

Having said that Scrolls has similar complexity when they make cards but they release even more than Blizzard.

Agreed. I'd rather new cards be released very slowly. I think it hurts the game to introduce too many cards too fast. 30 cards is a lot.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I can't wait for that nerubian egg. I will definitely replace my amani berserker. I mainly use that card as some measurement of AOE protection, but tbh it isn't enough. Then the egg will also synergize with SI7 agent since I'll be able to get that 4/4 on turn 5 immediately if I want it, although at the cost of 2 damage so it won't be optimal.

BTW they have said problems with auth servers so it isn't abnormal if you cannot log in right now.

 

[OJdaKiller]

That's a different time frame.

Is this maintainence warning actually happening now? I'm not at home to see it.

I thought they usually use PDT as their stated time zone??? Also, wtf..they just had maintainence earlier today.

 

[Minsc]

Playing a number of drafts of MtG , I was shocked to find out that there is only 30 new cards coming out in the next update. I'm sure they get stuff cranking eventually.

*EDIT
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What they just updated this morning!

PVE Adventures != Expansions.

The PVE Adventures, containing ~30 new cards each, will release semi-frequently afaik, figure a handful a year, maybe every other month or something.

Expansions, containing 150-200 new cards each, will release 1-2 times a year afaik. I imagine we won't see the first expansion until Blizzcon in November or whenever it is.

 

[Phreaker]

Is this maintainence warning actually happening now? I'm not at home to see it.

I thought they usually use PDT as their stated time zone??? Also, wtf..they just had maintainence earlier today.

Well I know there were reports from Blue that a bug cropped up after maintenance that were causing players not to unlock the legendary cardback.

 

[EverythingShiny]

Yeah no, this is definitely not weekly maintenance. That occurs in the morning. This is the servers having issues. I'm now in a 20 minute queue to just log into battlenet. First time I've ever seen that.

 

[Card Boy]

The effort Blizzard puts into a single card makes you realize how lazy Wizard and Stainless Games is every year.

 

[Hydranockz]

Expansions, containing 150-200 new cards each, will release 1-2 times a year afaik. I imagine we won't see the first expansion until Blizzcon in November or whenever it is.

I wonder what their reasoning is for having a big release of new cards so late rather than a trickle of content in shorter timeframes.

 

[Svafnir]

I wonder what their reasoning is for having a big release of new cards so late rather than a trickle of content in shorter timeframes.

Let the meta develop and new ideas come naturally. Instead of constantly messing with the game.

 

[Hydranockz]

Let the meta develop and new ideas come naturally. Instead of constantly messing with the game.

That is a damn fine point!

 

[Minsc]

I wonder what their reasoning is for having a big release of new cards so late rather than a trickle of content in shorter timeframes.

Well even 200 new cards is not that big once you split it 11 ways and add in a new class. Figure 40 class cards dedicated to the Death Knight class of the 200, the other 9 classes see another ~10-15 class cards each, that brings us up to like 150 right there, so maybe 50 new neutrals left over to take us to 200. So that big expansion is just 10-15 new cards for your class and 50 new neutrals. Probably 1/3 the neutrals aren't going to help you either, so maybe 20-30 cards total are going to be relevant from the 200 card expansion for someone playing mainly one class.

 

[soldat7]

I think they meant to say "< 1 month" unless I'm missing a joke here...

 

[Mik2121]

We have to remember

• Each card as graphical effects when they are played
• Each card as sound effects when they are played
• Artwork has to be made
• Golden animated versions need to be made
• They need to be programmed
• The need to be beta tested

Having said that Scrolls has similar complexity when they make cards but they release even more than Blizzard.

Yep, with all that much work I can see it taking some time. Specially since they have to test how those cards play with the rest of a deck, their balance, etc.. And yeah, the animation too. And the concept art quality is quite high so...

As a comparison, in the company where I work they also do some smartphone stuff and there's this one card game that has about 40 new cards every month, but those cards don't have any effects nor shit like that, just a flat card with some random stuff (it's not a card game, but one of those Japanese social games where you collect cards).

 

[Card Boy]

Wish they wouldn't focus on neutral cards so much, there is too many as it is. Everyone's decks is like half neutrals.

 

[Emarv]

Wish they wouldn't focus on neutral cards so much, there is too many as it is. Everyone's decks is like half neutrals.

I agree with this. I love powerful neutrals but some classes really could use more minions, and I'd like secrets in the classes that dont have them.

 

[johnsmith]

Watching Kolento stream makes me feel better that even the #1 ranked player still loses a shit ton.

 

[MisterArrogant]

At least Mad Bomber's RNGtardedness has a chance of backfiring on you.

Happened to a guy I was playing last night. His own Bad Bomber killed him off for me. I laughed pretty hard.

 

[Hydranockz]

Well even 200 new cards is not that big once you split it 11 ways and add in a new class. Figure 40 class cards dedicated to the Death Knight class of the 200, the other 9 classes see another ~10-15 class cards each, that brings us up to like 150 right there, so maybe 50 new neutrals left over to take us to 200. So that big expansion is just 10-15 new cards for your class and 50 new neutrals. Probably 1/3 the neutrals aren't going to help you either, so maybe 20-30 cards total are going to be relevant from the 200 card expansion for someone playing mainly one class.

I had forgotten that people tend to pick and stick to a class or two. Good point again though. That also explains why that is better than multiple smaller drops with less relevance.

 

[ilikesanta]

PVE Adventures != Expansions.

The PVE Adventures, containing ~30 new cards each, will release semi-frequently afaik, figure a handful a year, maybe every other month or something.

Expansions, containing 150-200 new cards each, will release 1-2 times a year afaik. I imagine we won't see the first expansion until Blizzcon in November or whenever it is.

Ok that sounds better, I approve.

SIDE NOTE: I have a friend who works for Wizards, and I saw him a few weeks back and asked him how long it takes for a set of cards to be made; from start to finish = 4 years.

 

[br3wnor]

There's no way we see a full chat client in this game, right?

The rage I feel sometimes when someone starts spamming emotes as they pull a lucky card from their ass is unreal.

 

[Haly]

SIDE NOTE: I have a friend who works for Wizards, and I saw him a few weeks back and asked him how long it takes for a set of cards to be made; from start to finish = 4 years.

I'm not surprised at all, although 4 is longer than I expected it to be, I would've said 3. By the time Theros block was released, they already had the next expansion finished and are working on the third expansion. This is the basis of the Future Future League, where an internal testing team tries to predict the meta a year ahead, and balances cards based on that.

Compared to Blizzard slipshod process of throwing out haphazard cards and then nerfing or buffing as is appropriate, it doesn't even compare.

The amount of care that goes into the design of every card in MTG is visible through the ban history of Standard, with the last bans being Stoneforge Mystic and Jace, the Mind Sculptor, two of thousands of cards released into Standard from 2011 to 2014.

There's no way we see a full chat client in this game, right?

The rage I feel sometimes when someone starts spamming emotes as they pull a lucky card from their ass is unreal.

Imagine the rage when they're not spamming canned emotes, but instead personalized phrases like "umad?" or "kappface" or "topdicked" via chat.

What you're experiencing, is drastically toned down from what Blizzard envisioned when they made that oh so critical decision of leaving out interplayer chat from the client.

 

[br3wnor]

Imagine the rage when they're not spamming canned emotes, but instead personalized phrases like "umad?" or "kappface" or "topdicked" via chat.

What you're experiencing, is drastically toned down from what Blizzard envisioned when they made that oh so critical decision of leaving out interplayer chat from the client.

Lol, custom phrases I could be ok with, I just couldn't do full on chat.

 

[IceMarker]

So I just climbed to Rank 20 (my icon is the Shield-bearer card), does this mean I get the card back on Thursday no matter what?

 

[zoukka]

It's popular because it counters zoo and aggro hunter, though it gets destroyed by midrange hunter.

How does it get destroyed by midrange hunter? I want to know because I play midrange hunter. Seems to me the deck is amazing in this matchup, polys for highmanes, leper gnomes and other one drops smash face while you wait for turn 3 to MAYBE play animal companion or bow if you are lucky. Then come the later turns and they just fireball you in the face.

 

[johnsmith]

So a priest just used Holy Fire while he had an Auchenai Soulpriest out, and took 5 damage to the face. Probably the funniest thing I've ever seen. Left him with 1 hp, and I was playing hunter, so.