On the flip side, you have a very good chance to hit face for 5 on turn 2 (w/ coin) and trade (or even face again) on 3/4. Whereas Yeti gets played on turn 3 at best. A worthwhile tradeoff if you're going aggro.
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On the flip side, you have a very good chance to hit face for 5 on turn 2 (w/ coin) and trade (or even face again) on 3/4. Whereas Yeti gets played on turn 3 at best. A worthwhile tradeoff if you're going aggro.
I never had much luck activating minions using mage fireball. I never feel like I get the value out of the cards. Even with something like Gurubashi Berserker which has a ton of health. Many times it makes more sense to use the 2 mana elsewhere in response to an opponents drop so it gets activated late or not at all.
The only way over paying is an issue is if you had better ways to spend your mana. And as there are plenty of times you're left with 2+, self-enrage with fireball can be extremely effective.
OJdaKiller
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How do you take a screenshot of a deck you've made and have it posted as a picture here?
Yea, but the ability to spread the mana cost over 2 rounds is very useful in early game. And in late game it makes that 2 or 3 drop not as terrible to topdeck.
The Lamonster
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Print Screen button saves an image to your desktop. Then just crop it in MS Paint or whatever and upload it to imgur and post the imgur link here on GAF!
Professor Lich
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Yeah, when I play mages, if I don't have removal, I always get messed up by Enrage minions. I like how it works though, most class hero powers interact with their cards pretty well. Mages, Warriors, Hunter, and Shaman and Druid to a lesser extent, really don't.
Don't take this as me saying they're bad / a problem. I'm just saying there is low class card synergy compared to other classes. They only have one or two cards that work with their hero power directly. As an example, Warriors only have Shield Slam, witch is the only card that directly uses armor, but armor is really good. Same with Shaman, they only have what, Totemic Might? (You can argue Blood Lust of course) That being said each totem is pretty good for what it does.
So it's cool that Mages can find some extra work with Enrage cards, because I can't think of a card that directly works with Fire Blast that's a class card.
Don't take this as me saying they're bad / a problem. I'm just saying there is low class card synergy compared to other classes. They only have one or two cards that work with their hero power directly. As an example, Warriors only have Shield Slam, witch is the only card that directly uses armor, but armor is really good. Same with Shaman, they only have what, Totemic Might? (You can argue Blood Lust of course) That being said each totem is pretty good for what it does.
So it's cool that Mages can find some extra work with Enrage cards, because I can't think of a card that directly works with Fire Blast that's a class card.
OJdaKiller
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tyvm!!!!
:lol :lol it's a bit of a shock the first time it happens but it's pretty easy to spot from there on out. They usually try it on the Lightwell or that card that is 4/5 but can't attack. I just make sure I destroy those minions before they can buff them.
partyphone
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whenever I play a wargen in arena it just ends up removing a 2/3 and a 4/4.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Much better than whenever I play that card, which just goes 1:1 with a spell/charge minion. 2:1 with that card is actually really good.
I always wished it worked with spellpower or counted as a spell.
Oh god that'd be so busted.
Professor Lich
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Yeah, that would be horrible. That would make it way to strong.
Ha, in some cases, sure. Mana Wyrm on Turn 1 suddenly becomes even worse.
Lots of classes can use other cards with their hero powers, though. Druids with Claw/Bite. Warriors with shield slam. Deadly Poison with Rogues. Priest is built almost entirely around their ability. Warlock is popular simply because of card draw. Even Paladins can buff their knights. Mages ain't got shit. Its just 1 damage for 2 mana.
Yeah, no. With only +1 spell damage on the board it would make it into the Hunter power but without the drawback of only being able to hit the enemy hero. With Malygos on the board it would be a 2 mana Fireball. That's a big nope.
Fireblast is fine as is.
RumblingRosco
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Malygos --> Coin --> Fireblast for 6 damage, basically a 2-mana Fireball but no card used.
"Just" 1 damage for 2 mana? Damn yo, I think I'd prefer the Mage hero power to almost any other in the game.
Well if we're all the way in Hearthstone Christmas Land you might as well have Antonidas in play. Then you could go Fireblast -> Fireball -> Fireball for all the damage.
Mobius and pet octopus
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So whats the meta like so far this season? 40% zoolock/handlock, 40% midrange/face hunters, 20% everything else?
I am pushing for Priest Big Minion Decks.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Professor Lich
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I've lost to three mages in a row, I think they were Mid Range? I dunno.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think aggro mage might be on a comeback
Professor Lich
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All I know is that I play Rogue and been having some issues. I switch between Miracle and Tempo. I probably just need to switch a few cards around. But yes, mostly Hunters.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Midrange is supposed to be good against the midrange hunters, or so I've heard. I have noticed it does better but not great.
I knew I had a good feeling about that Rogue. First 12 win in Arena.
You can see the deck list here.
http://imgur.com/a/EGPYm
You can see the deck list here.
http://imgur.com/a/EGPYm
Professor Lich
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Probably wouldn't hurt to have a third deck I suppose. I'll check it out, thanks.
Edit: I love Miracle Rogue, and if you can set it up, you win, but it's so easy to throw a wrench in the works. I guess that's why it's called that.
Double Edit: Maybe I'll try working another that isn't directly focused on one single play. AKA Mana Addict / Leeroy.
Some men just want to watch the world burn
Well I've one all 4 of my games so far, the point is to finish with windfury/speaker combos with Commanders and Racketeers. The combos are expensive but the deck stalls very well until the later round. Haven't played against a true rush deck yet though.
partyphone
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at minimum you need to replace reckless rocketeer with unbound elementals. also having both windfury and windspeaker are overkill.
dorkimoe
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I knew I had a good feeling about that Rogue. First 12 win in Arena.
You can see the deck list here.
http://imgur.com/a/EGPYm
holy shit thats alot of dust..most i earned was like 10 haha
Mobius and pet octopus
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I just beat one of those sunshine hunters with my midrange deck. He even got 5 cards out of his UTHs.
I am experimenting with sprint though, which did net me 3 cards. I also put a shieldmasta back in my deck. Only one though.
I basically won by having 1 minion out the entire time. 1 point I did decide to say fuck it and played 2 minions alongside another and that is when he double UTH with buzzard, lmao... ofc. I still won though
I wish rogue had a better low cost cycle card than shiv. If shiv was back to 1 it would be excellent. At 2 I don't think I've ever seen it used much outside of miracle decks. Rogue had a card called adrenaline rush in alpha, draw 1 card, combo draw 2 cards. That would've been awesome to have, I think it was like 1 or 2 cost.
I've tried acolyte but I wasn't feeling it.
Professor Lich
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That would be pretty sweet, I actually made a dumb aggro deck with rogue to see if it would work, and getting cards is the big problem.
I got a few friends to play Hearthstone with me and I just run into this weird Blizzard decision... we can't play against people in other regions unless we make an account for said region? For a card game that sounds incredibly... weird.
I tried searching online and there seems to be no way around it, but do we know if Blizzard is going to do something about it, or they'll just tell you to suck it up and change your region and start from zero again if you want to play with other regions?
I tried searching online and there seems to be no way around it, but do we know if Blizzard is going to do something about it, or they'll just tell you to suck it up and change your region and start from zero again if you want to play with other regions?
I went 1-1 with one of my mage aggro decks, the 1 loss was to a Kolento hunter deck and I missed lethal by 1. The one I am running mostly relies on direct damage for lethal like Thalnos + Frostbolt + Ice Lance (2) or Fireball and aside from that goes face.
Yikes... that's really bad.
Eh. At least you can just switch regions on your account easily. You used to need a separate account. It's a very minor deal for their customers as a whole, but I understand it seems like it would be simple enough to not have regions at all. Just have your group of friends magma accounts in the same region.
Hydranockz
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Hearthstone Tracker is awesome! Thanks for mentioning it!
JetBlackPanda
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Hunters and Priests can eat a fat one.
I was going to say you're playing them again due to the reset today, but they'd start much higher than level 20 if they were legendary, I'd think.
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