I really enjoy watching MaSsan he's been extremely helpful and fun to watch as well.
Zilea I've watched a bunch and both times I've had to switch off because all he seems to do is bitch and moan (maybe that's the appeal?)
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Hearthstone |OT| Why tap cards when you can roll need [Naxx final wing out now]
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I really enjoy watching MaSsan he's been extremely helpful and fun to watch as well.
Zilea I've watched a bunch and both times I've had to switch off because all he seems to do is bitch and moan (maybe that's the appeal?)
I'm only seeing giant lock and Druid (mostly ramp, some token) at rank 10 EU.
I lost two games in a row to a mage which had 1 health left, it's so frustrating when it happens (but then again when you pull a huge comeback it feels so great).
They are going to nerf Gadgetzan, the coin, or both. In the long term Gadgetzan is just too strong of a card and needs to limit draw. Miracle rouge abuses that.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I don't see why, miracle is super easy to identify and counter, assuming you pull your deck's right cards. If anything, I think Conceal is too cheap.
Fuck, it's a combo deck. Of course it's "abusing" card draw.
But that doesn't mean it needs to be "fixed". It's not unbalancing the game, yet. You'd have an argument if, in the next major HS tournament, everyone ran Miracle Rogue as one of their decks. Until then, any cries for nerf are woefully premature.
The fact that degenerate combos can be achieved through clever assembly of legal game mechanics is the mark of a flexible game system, not a problematic one. Unless your ideal metagame has every deck playing out the same way (e.g. 2 drop, 3 drop, 4 drop, get control of the board then face).
My god, it's like you guys want to turn Hearthstone into the League of Legends of card games more than it already is. Aggro decks? Too fast! Burn? Too uninteractive! Control? Too expensive! All midrange, all the fucking time.
Absolutely disgusting.
But that doesn't mean it needs to be "fixed". It's not unbalancing the game, yet. You'd have an argument if, in the next major HS tournament, everyone ran Miracle Rogue as one of their decks. Until then, any cries for nerf are woefully premature.
The fact that degenerate combos can be achieved through clever assembly of legal game mechanics is the mark of a flexible game system, not a problematic one. Unless your ideal metagame has every deck playing out the same way (e.g. 2 drop, 3 drop, 4 drop, get control of the board then face).
My god, it's like you guys want to turn Hearthstone into the League of Legends of card games more than it already is. Aggro decks? Too fast! Burn? Too uninteractive! Control? Too expensive! All midrange, all the fucking time.
Absolutely disgusting.
LOL. I am sorry, I am not terribly concerned about it NOW as many have pointed out it is typically easy to counter but with new cards coming and new sets in the future I am just saying most cards that abuse card draw like Gadgetzan and Northshire will be looked at.
Relax. Haly. Breathe.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
If anything, I wish there were way more combo possibilities for more of the classes. It's the type of deck I like playing most. Armorsmith/berserker is about as close as it gets. I threw some spiteful smiths in for fun.. hitting someone with an 11 gorehowl.. yes....
They'll most likely become obsolete with new cards.
They'll most likely become obsolete with new cards.
Also, true.
I am mostly looking forward to what they add for priest so we can start seeing them in the meta. I like the class but it suuuuuuuuucks no matter how well you spin it.
Gadgetzan will never become obsolete, nor Northshire, or Innervate, unless Blizzard prints strictly better cards. Raxus is right in that these cards are, in terms of mechanics, timeless. Reusable card draw and Dark Ritual will never not be good unless they get even better.
But, if Gadgetzan ever gets "broken", it'll be because of a new combo, and Blizzard can always nerf that, instead of Gadgetzan itself.
But, if Gadgetzan ever gets "broken", it'll be because of a new combo, and Blizzard can always nerf that, instead of Gadgetzan itself.
Onion_Relish
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Picked up Cenarius today. So far I think he is a pretty great card. Other people online don't seem to like him so much but every time i've used him he has come through for me. He is a total card sink, the other player has to spend way too many resources to get rid of him and and his friends. Helps to buy time for other legendaries and heaters.
Also venture co mercenary is fucking OP. He is just like a knife juggler, a taunt without taunt. The other player has no choice but to waste time and resources killing a card i don't care about at all, and when he dies, his debuff goes away and out come the heaters. Just goes to show you, don't count a card out because it may look bad.
Also venture co mercenary is fucking OP. He is just like a knife juggler, a taunt without taunt. The other player has no choice but to waste time and resources killing a card i don't care about at all, and when he dies, his debuff goes away and out come the heaters. Just goes to show you, don't count a card out because it may look bad.
RumblingRosco
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Tried to Google it but can't find it. Can you link it for me?
Minsc
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Follow de rules.
Play a few Paladins and you'll be removing him from your decks fast.
Hers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...hWalBWU0FmNUFEeG1ZcE94d1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Blank:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...UFpXZzZrb2x4czFLbGlZSTdnU3c&usp=sharing#gid=0
Just copy the cells to your own doc or something.
partyphone
Banned
and a lot of decks run BGH
RumblingRosco
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Thanks!
I could have innervated a hero power to kill his baron geddon after playing sunwalker + swipe, but I wasn't sure it was going to be worth it. I also could have swiped his face and let sunwalker trade with his geddon, but I was just worried about not dying from fatigue. My last card in the deck was innervate, great times!
I also forgot to mention I used a wild growth to draw a BGH to kill his grommash two turns before. 65 health versus 14 health, no problem!
super-famicom
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I'll add you later! If anyone wants to add me, I'm famicom #1607. I'm not very good, though.
Arena match against a Shaman. I mulligan my whole hand and I get 2 Mind Control Techs. I am like shit it's over.
Turn 4 he has 2/1 creature that gives hp to others, 0/5 taunt, healing totem, 1/1 totem VS. 2 1/1 pally soldiers.
I play MCT and get the taunt and clear his board.
2 Turns later his board: 5/5 Questing Adv. Sen'jin, healing totem, 1/1 VS. 2/2 and a 1/1
I play MCT again and I grab his 5/5 Questing Adv. I bet he was really pissed.
After that I just kept the tempo going and snowballed out of his reach.
Turn 4 he has 2/1 creature that gives hp to others, 0/5 taunt, healing totem, 1/1 totem VS. 2 1/1 pally soldiers.
I play MCT and get the taunt and clear his board.
2 Turns later his board: 5/5 Questing Adv. Sen'jin, healing totem, 1/1 VS. 2/2 and a 1/1
I play MCT again and I grab his 5/5 Questing Adv. I bet he was really pissed.
After that I just kept the tempo going and snowballed out of his reach.
call_kotaku
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After playing some miracle rogue, I don't think they'll get nerfed, outside of some fringe thing like cold blood costing more or something. The deck is very fragile and needs a good number of pieces to properly execute a combo, unlike the other popular decks like aggro hunter, zoo, or ramp druid which are all very resilient. I think once a new card comes into the meta, or some aggro setup that means you can't afford to just give up board control for 6 turns, or people get better at identifying the different flavors of miracle and countering them, we'll see it fade out a bit like it has in the past.
I actually think leeroy might be changed somehow, because the combos with him in miracle and hunter decks are stupid as all fuck.
I actually think leeroy might be changed somehow, because the combos with him in miracle and hunter decks are stupid as all fuck.
TheChewyWaffles
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I really wish arena was more like a 10 card constructed deck plus 20 cards drafted. It would remove some of the stupid randomness.
Hydranockz
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I had a hilarious arena run. Was down 1-2 as is commonplace and managed to pull out a 6 win run. I had a mage deck with 2 Pyroblasts, 2 flamestrikes and 2 Ice blocks. I feel no guilt. It was glorious. Sunwalker, Mirror Image, the bodyguard dude and my flamestrikes ust clearing the board of problems. I even had the Ethereal Arcanist as heavy presence to buy time while I eventually Pyroblasted. I mostly had to use only 1 but the second one wsa never far behind.
It was awesome.
It was awesome.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
I wanted to buy a few packs on the ipad, but all it ended up doing was time out AFTER I made my itunes password entry/purchase. I'm still waiting for the packs to appear. Pretty annoying.
I think the best suggestion is to overdraft and then let you prune it down to 30 at the end.
veloxStrix
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When I play against Miracle Rouge, I just mulligan hard into a strong early game and then proceed to flood the board worse than the Yellow River.
Wins about 80% of the time, and I'm playing Control Warrior. If I can do it, you can tooooooooo!
Wins about 80% of the time, and I'm playing Control Warrior. If I can do it, you can tooooooooo!
I've never played in any magic events/drafts, but I think whats called a tournament draft mode would be fun. Could even make a custom program to run it if not officially supported. If only I knew how to program.
MisterArrogant
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Alright, some of you guys in this thread that do really well in Arena said you'd throw out some suggestions for those of us not doing so well if you could see some vids of our play. So I did some arena today. Picked Rogue and went 3 - 3. Recorded the whole bit and I'm posting the relevant parts below:
Draft
First Loss
Second Loss
Third Loss
What's my major malfunction here? Drafting? Plays? Give me some advice and maybe we can make this instructional for everyone!
Draft
First Loss
Second Loss
Third Loss
What's my major malfunction here? Drafting? Plays? Give me some advice and maybe we can make this instructional for everyone!
Starting to use Blood Knight and Abomination more due to certain decks. It has driven me that far.
Seems to be working, though
Also had a Zoo Warlock flood the board after I played Sylvanas, including TINKMASTER OVERSPARK in a vain attempt to transform Sylvanas. Turned his own 3/2 into a 5/5.
I played Brawl and stole the 5/5 Devilsaur. He conceded immediately. My grin looked like The Grinch's.
Seems to be working, though
Also had a Zoo Warlock flood the board after I played Sylvanas, including TINKMASTER OVERSPARK in a vain attempt to transform Sylvanas. Turned his own 3/2 into a 5/5.
I played Brawl and stole the 5/5 Devilsaur. He conceded immediately. My grin looked like The Grinch's.
veloxStrix
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Fun story that I've been meaning to share: I was playing against a Mage in Arena who had just played a secret, and after attacking into them, I decided it had to be either a Counterspell or Mirror Entity. Assuming the ME, I played an Argent Squire, which they copied, and then I played a turn 4 9/9 Blood Knight.
It was a beautiful day.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Every fucking time I decide to play Rag or Ysera, instead of a smaller creature plus defender of argus, I get burst down from like 20 hp. so damn frustrating.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Well I can't predict what combo they have, unless it's blatantly obvious like miracle rogue.
super-famicom
Member
Well, in your first loss, you played cards that had good abilities (Shattered Sun Cleric, Ancient Brewmaster) onto an empty board. You could used the Defias bandit to attack, then have used Brewmaster to call back the Defias Leader to play again and bring back another bandit.
Why not? I mean, if you've reached turn 9 then you should have a pretty good idea of what deck you're up against and what they can or cannot do by analyzing what cards they've played and the size of their hand.
There's maybe 2-3 decks that can pull off 20 damage in a turn on an empty board.
There's maybe 2-3 decks that can pull off 20 damage in a turn on an empty board.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Because all druid decks have like the same cards, except some have the treants + Savage roar, some don't.
Onion_Relish
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What rules are you referring to?
Also any time I get mind controlled or equality'd a part of me dies inside.
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