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[Haunted]

VGVN 3 group stage spoilers:

Kibler

Spoiler

fucking got wrecked by that Handlock. Never a chance in any of the games.

I might have fought and won against Amaz in arena about half an hour ago but I'm not sure because he wasn't streaming and it could just be a fake. He was using the default card back and fireblast sudoku'd himself at the end so I guess I'll just have to check if he is using that card back on his NA account sometime soon.
edit: checked some recent VODs, he's using the Icecrown card back so it wasn't him

Yeah, since there are no restrictions on names you get a ton of people who just name themselves after known streamers/players.


It's the same in Dota 2, with people even going to lengths to exactly replicate the whole stupid sponsor-filled handle (like Na´vi.Funn1k or [A]dmiralBulldog.HyperX)

I guess some people get a kick out of getting asked "are you the real one!?!" :lol

 

[Zemm]

Amaz might not even reach the next stage of blizzcon qualifiers Currently 2-2, one more loss and he's out I believe?

 

[ViviOggi]

It's the same in Dota 2, with people even going to lengths to exactly replicate the whole stupid sponsor-filled handle (like Na´vi.Funn1k or [A]dmiralBulldog.HyperX)

I guess some people get a kick out of getting asked "are you the real one!?!" :lol

I used to go by XBOCT ONE for like a month and got flamed for being a "XBOCT wannabe" multiple times.

Same with naversports.Dendi ("lol u cant even write the name right")

 

[Haunted]

Kibler unloads on Thoughtsteal.

:lol

 

[Zemm]

My experience with thoughtsteal has the majority of the time been "oh baby!". Yeah it's not great vs zoo or hunter rush but then neither is ysera or mind control.

 

[Haunted]

My experience with thoughtsteal has the majority of the time been "oh baby!". Yeah it's not great vs zoo or hunter rush but then neither is ysera or mind control.

Well, his point isn't that Ysera and MC are better vs aggressive decks, but that even if thoughtsteal is "oh baby" in a majority of control games, Ysera and Mind Control will be "oh baby" 100% of the time.


Not that I'd be good enough at playing priest to tell either way. I run thoughtsteal and MC, so that's that.

 

[Zemm]

Well, his point isn't that Ysera and MC are better vs aggressive decks, but that even if thoughtsteal is "oh baby" in a majority of control games, Ysera and Mind Control will be "oh baby" 100% of the time.


Not that I'd be good enough at playing priest to tell either way. I run thoughtsteal and MC, so that's that.

well you can run all three, I dunno his deck is a bit of a mix where you can get away without running thoughtsteal, but it's definitely not a terrible card, it's pretty damn good infact. Like you though I run thoughtsteal, MC (sometimes) and Ysera if I'm playing priest, and have used all three vs hunter before. Thoughtsteal is really only terrible vs zoo and face hunter, vs mid-range hunter it can be crazy good.

It's funny how Kibler and Kolento think completely differently on thoughtsteal, kibler thinks it's terrible and kolento said it was one of the best cards in the game. I guess both can be right depending on how they like to play and the decks they build. I'm more in the Kolento camp on this one though.

 

[Haunted]

Anything that invites discussion like this is good for the game, though. Nothing worse than a metagame where everyone agrees on the value of every card.

 

[Aylinato]

Anything that invites discussion like this is good for the game, though. Nothing worse than a metagame where everyone agrees on the value of every card.

*cough lerroy before the nerf*

 

[frequency]

I don't play Priest but what Kibler is saying makes a lot of sense to me. If nothing else, it's at least a well thought out opinion. If he cussed a little less I'd watch him more often I think.

Speaking of Kibler, I thought this

was one of the more ridiculous things I have seen. e-sports should use real names.

 

[ZealousD]

Bwahahaha.

I seriously hope I can drop both of them down in one game and confuse the hell out of people.

 

[Acinixys]

Bwahahaha.

I seriously hope I can drop both of them down in one game and confuse the hell out of people.

Thats pretty bullshit

I once had a Shaman drop 2 Leeroy in Arena with a Flametongue between them

Frustrating as hell

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

I don't play Priest but what Kibler is saying makes a lot of sense to me. If nothing else, it's at least a well thought out opinion. If he cussed a little less I'd watch him more often I think.

Speaking of Kibler, I thought this

was one of the more ridiculous things I have seen. e-sports should use real names.

How many esport events have you watched? Unless it is some magic the gathering stream, I don't think I've ever seen a tournament use real names if the people have handles.

 

[Freyjadour]

Lord of the Arena 2 in 2 hours.

I get pretty tired of the other tournaments, but Kripp / reckful commentating? This should be entertaining all around.

 

[ViviOggi]

Bwahahaha.

I seriously hope I can drop both of them down in one game and confuse the hell out of people.

Absolutely disgusting

Lord of the Arena 2 in 2 hours.

I get pretty tired of the other tournaments, but Kripp / reckful commentating? This should be entertaining all around.

You'll find me in my sodium-proof bunker for when reynard inevitably loses his own tournament

 

[Haly]

Kibler's getting stomped though >_>

 

[Zafir]

Amaz might not even reach the next stage of blizzcon qualifiers Currently 2-2, one more loss and he's out I believe?

He seems to be staying in somehow. Quite a few prominent people are at 5-2 atm. In other news, seems forsen may have got knocked out due to a ddos judging by his latest tweet.

 

[Permanently A]

I feel so proud of myself for not dusting my dupe Leeroy months ago.

 

[Zemm]

You'll find me in my sodium-proof bunker for when reynard inevitably loses his own tournament

☑ “This guy's deck is CRAZY!” ☑ “My deck can't win against a deck like that” ☑ "He NEEDED precisely those two cards to win" ☑ “He topdecked the only card that could beat me” ☑ "He had the perfect cards" ☑ “There was nothing I could do” ☑ “I played that perfectly" ☑ "it's ridiculous"

 

[Leezard]

☑ “This guy's deck is CRAZY!” ☑ “My deck can't win against a deck like that” ☑ "He NEEDED precisely those two cards to win" ☑ “He topdecked the only card that could beat me” ☑ "He had the perfect cards" ☑ “There was nothing I could do” ☑ “I played that perfectly" ☑ "it's ridiculous"

I like this version
☑ This guy's pasta is CRAZY!” ☑ “My rigatoni can't win against a linguini like that” ☑ "He NEEDED that alfredo to win" ☑ “He meatballed the only marinara that could beat me” ☑ "He had the perfect fettucini ☑ “There was nothing I could cook” ☑ “I cooked that al dente”

 

[ShinNL]

Isn't the emphasis on crazy an Amaz quote?

 

[manhack]

I am excited about Lord of the Arena

http://www.twitch.tv/reynad27

Hoping they draft some good decks to make this fun.

 

[Haunted]

I don't play Priest but what Kibler is saying makes a lot of sense to me. If nothing else, it's at least a well thought out opinion. If he cussed a little less I'd watch him more often I think.

Speaking of Kibler, I thought this

was one of the more ridiculous things I have seen. e-sports should use real names.

It's cool if everyone uses their handle, but one single real name and everyone else suddenly looks real silly.

I think organisers would do well to get set on a path where real names are preferred to handles. You can compromise initially - Janne "Savjz" Mikkonen, Andrey "Reynad" Yanyuk etc with a transition into using real names as the primary referral with nicknames/handles as an alternative eventually.


edit: basically, everyone should be more like Mike "Mike Ross" Ross

He meatballed the only marinara that could beat me

made me laugh

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

sellout

 

[Zemm]

oh Massan you fucking idiot haha

 

[ViviOggi]

MASSAN

Spoiler

this was his second try

 

[Willy Wanka]

Haha. It was a nice deck too, Poor Massan.

 

[Zemm]

I hope it doesn't take this long before every match starts, it's getting late :/

edit: or not

 

[Haunted]

MASSAN

Spoiler

this was his second try

I don't understand.

 

[ViviOggi]

I don't understand.

Lord of the Arena tournament, because drafts have to be rebuilt in constructed mode you're not allowed to pick more than two copies of the same card. He failed to do so twice

 

[Haunted]

Lord of the Arena tournament, because drafts have to be rebuilt in constructed mode you're not allowed to pick more than two copies of the same card. He failed to do so twice

oy vey

 

[Zemm]

trump takes 10 minutes to do his draft, tides takes 10 seconds.

edit: fuck trump!

 

[zoukka]

Tides looks like he's been just playing HS for his every waking hour.

 

[frequency]

How many esport events have you watched? Unless it is some magic the gathering stream, I don't think I've ever seen a tournament use real names if the people have handles.

Lots. I'm saying people should be using real names instead and that particular tournament where Brian Kibler was using his real name made all the fake ones look even more ridiculous and unprofessional than normal.

It's cool if everyone uses their handle, but one single real name and everyone else suddenly looks real silly.

I think organisers would do well to get set on a path where real names are preferred to handles. You can compromise initially - Janne "Savjz" Mikkonen, Andrey "Reynad" Yanyuk etc with a transition into using real names as the primary referral with nicknames/handles as an alternative eventually.

I've always wanted people to use real names but, yes, when it's all handles it doesn't stand out as much. But all those handles next to Brian Kibler made it look really silly, as you say.

I would like if they did that transition to real names.


e-sports would be much easier to take seriously if you're talking about "Brian Kibler" rather than if you were talking about "Fake"

 

[Acinixys]

Lots. I'm saying people should be using real names instead and that particular tournament where Brian Kibler was using his real name made all the fake ones look even more ridiculous and unprofessional than normal.

What?

HS players at least have reasonable names

Dota has people with names like FuckingMad and BigDaddy

 

[frequency]

What?

HS players at least have reasonable names

Dota has people with names like FuckingMad and BigDaddy

Other people having worse names doesn't make Hearthstone's desirable to me. I prefer real names. Maybe you are fine to talk about Fake and Firebat and Realz and Trump and TidesOfTime and ThatsAdmirable sitting in a cafe or something but I think most people would rather talk about Brian Kibler.

 

[Zemm]

I'm chuckling at all the mainly "arena players" getting beat here. I think Forsen has played about 10 arena games in his life.

 

[johnsmith]

Woo, made it before the nerfs. 2 down, 7 to go.

 

[Cipherr]

I couldn't personally give a shit whether handles make e-sports 'tough to take seriously' for some. And I don't think many others do either. Handles have been a part of online games forever. The industry has its own traditions, it is what it is. Names on a screen.... very few people are even thinking about that. I guarantee you that much.

 

[Kotetsu534]

This reads a bit like the competitive multiplayer version of "games are trying to become like films so the mainstream takes them seriously" debate.

 

[zoukka]

I'm chuckling at all the mainly "arena players" getting beat here. I think Forsen has played about 10 arena games in his life.

Best of one from one draft is almost like a coin toss honestly.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

This lord of the arena tournament is pretty entertaining again. Reckful and kripp are good casters... I like them much more than admirable and artosis and probably even some others.

 

[johnsmith]

They should have done something like letting them draft 3 times, and they chose the best oen.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Lots. I'm saying people should be using real names instead and that particular tournament where Brian Kibler was using his real name made all the fake ones look even more ridiculous and unprofessional than normal.

I'm sorry, I didn't type what I was saying right. How many esports have you watched that had real players' names besides a mtg tournament?

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

They should have done something like letting them draft 3 times, and they chose the best oen.

That isn't usually how draft tournaments go though.

Lots. I'm saying people should be using real names instead and that particular tournament where Brian Kibler was using his real name made all the fake ones look even more ridiculous and unprofessional than normal.


I've always wanted people to use real names but, yes, when it's all handles it doesn't stand out as much. But all those handles next to Brian Kibler made it look really silly, as you say.

I would like if they did that transition to real names.


e-sports would be much easier to take seriously if you're talking about "Brian Kibler" rather than if you were talking about "Fake"

Well Kibler is a hall of famer from MTG. Plus his handle is kiblerbm or something so you are using his handle when you say his name pretty much heh.

 

[Zemm]

They should have done something like letting them draft 3 times, and they chose the best oen.

Only if they did it before the stream/tournament started, they already took far too long to do the drafts.

 

[frequency]

I'm sorry, I didn't type what I was saying right. How many esports have you watched that had real player's names besides a mtg tournament?

None. But I want that to change. I want to know these people by their real names rather than internet handles. It was just in that VGVN tournament when everyone was using handles except for Brian Kibler that made everyone else look way more silly than usual to me.

I understand if it doesn't bother other people as much. Not everyone has to agree with everything I post. Most people probably disagree with most things I post.

 

[Acinixys]

None. But I want that to change. I want to know these people by their real names rather than internet handles. It was just in that VGVN tournament when everyone was using handles except for Brian Kibler that made everyone else look way more silly than usual to me.

I understand if it doesn't bother other people as much. Not everyone has to agree with everything I post. Most people probably disagree with most things I post.

I disagree with this post

 

[Zemm]

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I'm okay with online handles as well. It kinda does make them stick out more and even more memorable than most names. Like I think chou, chong, and shih are frodan, maassan, and trump respectively... Not everyone has a memorable name.